Comments on: Iraq – Seven years on http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:31:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Freddie http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456732 Freddie Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:26:03 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456732 "Larkers: Perhaps you should read the book..." Perhaps he should if only to witness first hand it's lack of substance. “Larkers: Perhaps you should read the book…”

Perhaps he should if only to witness first hand it’s lack of substance.

]]> By: David All http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456305 David All Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:39:58 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456305 Larkers: Perhaps you should read the book that Nick (ex South Africa) refered to in another thread, "The Ministry of Defeat: the British War in Iraq, 2003-2009" by Richard North before you criticize Nick for his comment about the inept British military role in the occupation of Iraq. Link to http://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Defeat-British-Iraq-2003-2009/dp/1441169970 Larkers: Perhaps you should read the book that Nick (ex South Africa) refered to in another thread, “The Ministry of Defeat: the British War in Iraq, 2003-2009″ by Richard North before you criticize Nick for his comment about the inept British military role in the occupation of Iraq. Link to http://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Defeat-British-Iraq-2003-2009/dp/1441169970

]]> By: Larkers http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456143 Larkers Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:14:13 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456143 "To my mind far more attention should be paid to the British defeat in Iraq – the political, military and social causes of that defeat, how to address these in the future, including in the Afghan campaign – rather that trying to re-write history to mesh with the received a historic wisdom of the usual anti and stopper canards. Alas that defeat is not being seen for what it is because it’s been masked by the commitment, blood and determination of our American cousins." – Nick (ex South Africa) 9 March 2010, 2:10 pm Nick please change the record. Your obsessional belief in British 'defeat' (the wish to the thought is obvious) was comprehensively and beautifully deconstructed in whole and detail for you with a dazzling grasp of facts by the poster who goes by the title Der Whigphilosophie der Geschichte months ago. Like the late, great, Brian London you just don't know when to fall over. By-the-way, Americans are not our cousins, not for centuries. "Never call me brother, least of all cousin". Woodrow Wilson. “To my mind far more attention should be paid to the British defeat in Iraq – the political, military and social causes of that defeat, how to address these in the future, including in the Afghan campaign – rather that trying to re-write history to mesh with the received a historic wisdom of the usual anti and stopper canards.

Alas that defeat is not being seen for what it is because it’s been masked by the commitment, blood and determination of our American cousins.” – Nick (ex South Africa) 9 March 2010, 2:10 pm

Nick please change the record. Your obsessional belief in British ‘defeat’ (the wish to the thought is obvious) was comprehensively and beautifully deconstructed in whole and detail for you with a dazzling grasp of facts by the poster who goes by the title Der Whigphilosophie der Geschichte months ago. Like the late, great, Brian London you just don’t know when to fall over.

By-the-way, Americans are not our cousins, not for centuries.

“Never call me brother, least of all cousin”. Woodrow Wilson.

]]> By: Johan W http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456115 Johan W Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:11:20 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456115 NoPropertyInMan: Hey, I really think that the NYT is the wrong target of your opprobium. Yes I was also angry reading that article, not to mention dispirited. But the proper focus of that anger is not the NYT for reporting the existence of sour sullen hypocritical conspiricism as a ubiquitous attitude in the Arab ME, but the sour sullen attitudes themselves. It takes a f*****g nerve to dismiss as inauthentic people braving bombs to vote when you are a sullen subject of the various despotisms of the ME. Doubly so when for the most part you spent the last 7 years cheering on the bombers. Much that is wrong with the ME can be summed up by the reactions that the NYT has reported. NoPropertyInMan:
Hey, I really think that the NYT is the wrong target of your opprobium. Yes I was also angry reading that article, not to mention dispirited. But the proper focus of that anger is not the NYT for reporting the existence of sour sullen hypocritical conspiricism as a ubiquitous attitude in the Arab ME, but the sour sullen attitudes themselves. It takes a f*****g nerve to dismiss as inauthentic people braving bombs to vote when you are a sullen subject of the various despotisms of the ME. Doubly so when for the most part you spent the last 7 years cheering on the bombers. Much that is wrong with the ME can be summed up by the reactions that the NYT has reported.

]]> By: Freddie http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456045 Freddie Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:49:32 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456045 "To my mind far more attention should be paid to the British defeat in Iraq." http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/01/31/the-bravery-and-sacrifice-of-british-troops/#comments http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/01/30/the-tragedy-of-basra-was-blair%e2%80%99s-real-crime/ “To my mind far more attention should be paid to the British defeat in Iraq.”

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/01/31/the-bravery-and-sacrifice-of-british-troops/#comments

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/01/30/the-tragedy-of-basra-was-blair%e2%80%99s-real-crime/

]]> By: Freddie http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456026 Freddie Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:59:56 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456026 "Find me one." No! “Find me one.”

No!

]]> By: NoPropertyInMan http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-456001 NoPropertyInMan Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:45:07 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-456001 NYTimes (Not the main headline, to be fair. But its hardly subtle): 'Region Unimpressed by Balloting in Iraq' (I'm sure this said 'by democracy' this mornig...) http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/09/world/middleeast/09election.html Nearby Arab countries make shitty comments about Iraqi democracy. In that case, no further questions. The Neocons got it all wrong, of course. Well done New York Times. You were always right. Silly Iraqis, pretending to vote. Fucking press makes you sick. NYTimes (Not the main headline, to be fair. But its hardly subtle):

‘Region Unimpressed by Balloting in Iraq’ (I’m sure this said ‘by democracy’ this mornig…)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/09/world/middleeast/09election.html

Nearby Arab countries make shitty comments about Iraqi democracy. In that case, no further questions. The Neocons got it all wrong, of course. Well done New York Times. You were always right. Silly Iraqis, pretending to vote.

Fucking press makes you sick.

]]> By: Bialik http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-455950 Bialik Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:59:41 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-455950 Whoops! Didn't mean to imply that normal = British. I've heard the state of the streets used as a justification for not voting over here but it no doubt happens in lots of countries. Whoops! Didn’t mean to imply that normal = British. I’ve heard the state of the streets used as a justification for not voting over here but it no doubt happens in lots of countries.

]]> By: Bialik http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-455948 Bialik Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:57:51 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-455948 Best sign of normalisation in Iraq was something I heard this week on BBC Radio. Man outside polling station saying he's not going to vote, just look at the rubbish on the pavements over there... So British. Best sign of normalisation in Iraq was something I heard this week on BBC Radio. Man outside polling station saying he’s not going to vote, just look at the rubbish on the pavements over there… So British.

]]> By: angrysoba http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/iraq-seven-years-on/comment-page-1/#comment-455943 angrysoba Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:49:47 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29868#comment-455943 <i>If only Israel left Palestine and we pulled out of ‘Muslim lands’, rainbows would begin shooting out of the backsides of autocrats worldwide.</i> And unicorns! Don't forget the unicorns that will shooting out of the backsides of autocrats worldwide. If only Israel left Palestine and we pulled out of ‘Muslim lands’, rainbows would begin shooting out of the backsides of autocrats worldwide.

And unicorns! Don’t forget the unicorns that will shooting out of the backsides of autocrats worldwide.

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