Comments on: Dogs are the new knives http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Sat, 26 May 2012 09:31:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Saleem http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456701 Saleem Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:23:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456701 Dogs are the new cake ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w woow lovely vedio :) Dogs are the new cake ;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwylBRucU7w

woow lovely vedio :)

]]> By: Monty http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456645 Monty Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:17:01 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456645 Having pets micro-chipped is, in general, a good idea. Most pet owners dread the thought of their companion going astray. But the way to get that done is make it a requirement for dog breeders to do it, when they have the puppies vaccinated. However, keeping track of subsequent changes of ownership could turn into a large, expensive, government department. I would like to know who runs the tracking service that we have at present, because on the current scale it seems to work well, at fairly low cost. Also, the animal charities tend to neuter and vaccinate pets before re-homing them, so unchipped pets could be chipped at that point. I would much rather this was done by voluntary code of practice, than legislation. BUT It will make absolutely no difference to the crooks. They will keep on running illegal and cruel puppy farms. They will keep organising dog fights. They will retain their attack dogs. They will continue to use beatings to train those dogs to be mean and dangerous. They will not have their dogs vaccinated, chipped, registered, neutered, they won't even take the poor beast to the Vet when it is ill or injured. The police will avoid tangling with them. They are reluctant to use the laws we already have. And thugs never pay their fines. Having pets micro-chipped is, in general, a good idea. Most pet owners dread the thought of their companion going astray. But the way to get that done is make it a requirement for dog breeders to do it, when they have the puppies vaccinated. However, keeping track of subsequent changes of ownership could turn into a large, expensive, government department. I would like to know who runs the tracking service that we have at present, because on the current scale it seems to work well, at fairly low cost. Also, the animal charities tend to neuter and vaccinate pets before re-homing them, so unchipped pets could be chipped at that point. I would much rather this was done by voluntary code of practice, than legislation.

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It will make absolutely no difference to the crooks. They will keep on running illegal and cruel puppy farms. They will keep organising dog fights. They will retain their attack dogs. They will continue to use beatings to train those dogs to be mean and dangerous. They will not have their dogs vaccinated, chipped, registered, neutered, they won’t even take the poor beast to the Vet when it is ill or injured.

The police will avoid tangling with them. They are reluctant to use the laws we already have. And thugs never pay their fines.

]]> By: Brownie http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456443 Brownie Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:19:41 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456443 <i>Damned spoilsports…..</i> ...banning our bloodsports. Damned spoilsports…..

…banning our bloodsports.

]]> By: Adrian Morgan http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456427 Adrian Morgan Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:20:02 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456427 Damned spoilsports..... Damned spoilsports…..

]]> By: Graham http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456413 Graham Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:06:31 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456413 <i>I am sure unemployed school-leavers could be encouraged to go out into public parks, carrying sharpened sticks.</i> Indeed. And they would need a weapon dog of their own with which to confront the other dog. There could be money to be made in betting on whether the official dog or the gangsters dog would win and er....... Alas the authoritarian state has cracked down on such harmless fun with the Cruelty to Animals Act 1835. (I blame Nu labour.) I am sure unemployed school-leavers could be encouraged to go out into public parks, carrying sharpened sticks.

Indeed. And they would need a weapon dog of their own with which to confront the other dog. There could be money to be made in betting on whether the official dog or the gangsters dog would win and er…….

Alas the authoritarian state has cracked down on such harmless fun with the Cruelty to Animals Act 1835. (I blame Nu labour.)

]]> By: Adrian Morgan http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456401 Adrian Morgan Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:46:11 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456401 Perhaps, this Labour government could provide employment for some, by creating a new job - stick-prodders. In order for the Dangerous Dogs Act 1871 to be enforced, one must know if a dog is dangerous. I am sure unemployed school-leavers could be encouraged to go out into public parks, carrying sharpened sticks. Given a nice uniform that denotes legitimacy in all but practice, like a community support officer, these stick-prodders (community canine liaison officers?) could approach the hoodies hanging around the burned-out bandstands and start to prod their dogs with their sharp sticks. If the dogs look like they are deeply annoyed by such prodding (and assuming the stick-prodder is not hospitalised) then the dog can be taken away and its owner can be fined (and made to pay the cost of the stick-prodding and the incarceration and ultimate cremation of his weaponised pooch). Sorted...... Perhaps, this Labour government could provide employment for some, by creating a new job – stick-prodders. In order for the Dangerous Dogs Act 1871 to be enforced, one must know if a dog is dangerous. I am sure unemployed school-leavers could be encouraged to go out into public parks, carrying sharpened sticks.

Given a nice uniform that denotes legitimacy in all but practice, like a community support officer, these stick-prodders (community canine liaison officers?) could approach the hoodies hanging around the burned-out bandstands and start to prod their dogs with their sharp sticks.

If the dogs look like they are deeply annoyed by such prodding (and assuming the stick-prodder is not hospitalised) then the dog can be taken away and its owner can be fined (and made to pay the cost of the stick-prodding and the incarceration and ultimate cremation of his weaponised pooch).

Sorted……

]]> By: Graham http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456396 Graham Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:39:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456396 That all seems reasonable Adrian. But it is precisely the dogs act of 1871 that they want to bring up to date in order to include dogs not classified as 'dangerous' by the Howard act. I'm also always a bit suspicious of legislation that is over a 100 years old - not for any particular reason but you would just think that dangerous animals could be debated in parliament a little more often than that. Am I going too far in wondering if there are other reasons for wanting to make dog ownership harder? All that pedigree chum takes a lot of grazing that could be used to grow food for humans... Mind you, I can remember when dogshit turned white on the streets - ah happy days... That all seems reasonable Adrian. But it is precisely the dogs act of 1871 that they want to bring up to date in order to include dogs not classified as ‘dangerous’ by the Howard act. I’m also always a bit suspicious of legislation that is over a 100 years old – not for any particular reason but you would just think that dangerous animals could be debated in parliament a little more often than that.

Am I going too far in wondering if there are other reasons for wanting to make dog ownership harder? All that pedigree chum takes a lot of grazing that could be used to grow food for humans…

Mind you, I can remember when dogshit turned white on the streets – ah happy days…

]]> By: Adrian Morgan http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-4/#comment-456393 Adrian Morgan Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:32:07 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456393 I don't know Graham. I think that the insurance idea is crap. Ii am deeply cynical about Cameron's cronies, as much as I am deeply cynical about the current cabinet. A consultation is necessary, but the consultation should be about restructuring an entirely new "Dangerous Dogs Act" and maybe there are already laws in place that could be enforced. The Kennel Club has provided guidance on the laws any dog owner should be aware of: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/397 The <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1871/cukpga_18710056_en_1" rel="nofollow">Dogs Act 1871</a> seems already to take care of the problem of dogs that appear to be dangerous or out of control. This is what annoys me about Labour since 1997 - instead of encouraging existing laws to be enforced, it has got into the business of manic legislation creation, and making it impossible for the general public punters to know where they stand legally. I don’t know Graham.

I think that the insurance idea is crap. Ii am deeply cynical about Cameron’s cronies, as much as I am deeply cynical about the current cabinet.

A consultation is necessary, but the consultation should be about restructuring an entirely new “Dangerous Dogs Act” and maybe there are already laws in place that could be enforced.

The Kennel Club has provided guidance on the laws any dog owner should be aware of:
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/397

The Dogs Act 1871 seems already to take care of the problem of dogs that appear to be dangerous or out of control.

This is what annoys me about Labour since 1997 – instead of encouraging existing laws to be enforced, it has got into the business of manic legislation creation, and making it impossible for the general public punters to know where they stand legally.

]]> By: Graham http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-3/#comment-456392 Graham Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:28:54 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456392 More often than an Ambush Predator on a Green Arrow? More often than an Ambush Predator on a Green Arrow?

]]> By: JuliaM http://hurryupharry.org/2010/03/09/dogs-are-the-new-knives/comment-page-3/#comment-456390 JuliaM Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:25:50 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=29883#comment-456390 <i>"So over excited that you posted it twice?"</i> I doubt it, probably the laughably poor service you are getting from your sevice providers. The server goes down more often than your... Ahh, I'm a lady, and that's a cheap shot.. ;) “So over excited that you posted it twice?”

I doubt it, probably the laughably poor service you are getting from your sevice providers. The server goes down more often than your…

Ahh, I’m a lady, and that’s a cheap shot.. ;)

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