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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2010/01/19/hugo-meet-rush/comment-page-2/#comment-438096</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The vast majority of Haitians are &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; making billions.  

Why not read my posts above.  Perhaps actually take a look at the documents or links I posted in response to Mr. Danger.  Then, like I tell my toddler: Stop and Think before you respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vast majority of Haitians are <b>not</b> making billions.  </p>
<p>Why not read my posts above.  Perhaps actually take a look at the documents or links I posted in response to Mr. Danger.  Then, like I tell my toddler: Stop and Think before you respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2010/01/19/hugo-meet-rush/comment-page-2/#comment-437804</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Shawn, where are the Haitians making their billions from - that now the multinationals with the help of the Marines will be stealing?

Do you have any idea how idiotic and one-dimensional (or actually zero-dimensional) you &quot;anti-imperialists&quot; trying to keep the 3rd world in perpetual poverty sound?

Exporting a few thousand T-shirts does not generate much wealth, does it?  How much wealth does a T-shirt in your demented opinion produce?

I want numbers, you  idiot.  Numbers.

How much are the mutlinationals stealing?  Douchebags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Shawn, where are the Haitians making their billions from &#8211; that now the multinationals with the help of the Marines will be stealing?</p>
<p>Do you have any idea how idiotic and one-dimensional (or actually zero-dimensional) you &#8220;anti-imperialists&#8221; trying to keep the 3rd world in perpetual poverty sound?</p>
<p>Exporting a few thousand T-shirts does not generate much wealth, does it?  How much wealth does a T-shirt in your demented opinion produce?</p>
<p>I want numbers, you  idiot.  Numbers.</p>
<p>How much are the mutlinationals stealing?  Douchebags.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2010/01/19/hugo-meet-rush/comment-page-1/#comment-437684</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Context is important, I agree with you.  That&#039;s why Haiti doesn&#039;t matter much on the global scale of US aid.  However, the recent earthquake has provided US Aid to increase its corporate presence there.  The marines are there to further that cause by providing security.  

These statements are not anti-us or anti-imperialistic, just observations.  And I&#039;m certainly not the only one making them.

Someone above wanted me to post sources, so here are a couple worthwhile reads

1) &quot;Why Foreign Aid to Haiti Failed&quot; by The National Academy of Public Administration, 2006 (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.napawash.org/haiti_final.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link to pdf&lt;/a&gt;).  If you&#039;re going to review any of these sources, start here.

2) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa065.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The CATO institute&lt;/a&gt;. Provided an analysis of US foreign aid during the Reagan Administration (Jan 1986).  &quot;American foreign aid has often harmed the Third World poor. In Indonesia, the government confiscated subsistence farmers&#039; meager plots for AID-financed irrigation canals. In Mali, farmers were forced to sell their crops at giveaway prices to a joint project of AID and the Mali government. In Egypt, Haiti, and elsewhere, farmers have seen the prices for their own crops nose-dive when U.S. free food has been given to their countries.&quot;

3) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj29n3/cj29n3-1.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peter Bauer and the Failure of Foreign Aid&lt;/a&gt; &lt;b&gt;PDF FILE&lt;/b&gt;. From the Cato Journal, Fall 2009.  Discusses the failure of US foreign aid with special regard given towards how it has changed over the 20th century leading towards becoming a tool for furthering imperialism.

4) &lt;a href=&quot;http://developmentgap.org/americas/Haiti/Foreign_Aid_Given_Hatian_Justice_Denied.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Development Gap&lt;/a&gt;.  Summarizes an article (original &lt;a href=&quot;http://developmentgap.org/americas/Haiti/Democracy_Undermined_Economic_Justice_Denied_Structural_Adjustment_&amp;_Aid_Juggernaut_in_Haiti.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) explaining how the US development banks (the IMF and World Bank) bankrupted Haiti thereby forcing the Haitian govt to accept reparations in the form of US engineering contracts and labor contracts.

and to a lesser extent:

5) &lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575010860014031260.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From a Wall Street Journal article written this month&lt;/a&gt;. &quot;For actual Haitians, however, just about every conceivable aid scheme beyond immediate humanitarian relief will lead to more poverty, more corruption and less institutional capacity. It will benefit the well-connected at the expense of the truly needy, divert resources from where they are needed most, and crowd out local enterprise. And it will foster the very culture of dependence the country so desperately needs to break.&quot;

6) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/AID_Haiti.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Third World Traveler&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context is important, I agree with you.  That&#8217;s why Haiti doesn&#8217;t matter much on the global scale of US aid.  However, the recent earthquake has provided US Aid to increase its corporate presence there.  The marines are there to further that cause by providing security.  </p>
<p>These statements are not anti-us or anti-imperialistic, just observations.  And I&#8217;m certainly not the only one making them.</p>
<p>Someone above wanted me to post sources, so here are a couple worthwhile reads</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Why Foreign Aid to Haiti Failed&#8221; by The National Academy of Public Administration, 2006 (<a href="http://www.napawash.org/haiti_final.pdf" rel="nofollow">link to pdf</a>).  If you&#8217;re going to review any of these sources, start here.</p>
<p>2) <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa065.html" rel="nofollow">The CATO institute</a>. Provided an analysis of US foreign aid during the Reagan Administration (Jan 1986).  &#8220;American foreign aid has often harmed the Third World poor. In Indonesia, the government confiscated subsistence farmers&#8217; meager plots for AID-financed irrigation canals. In Mali, farmers were forced to sell their crops at giveaway prices to a joint project of AID and the Mali government. In Egypt, Haiti, and elsewhere, farmers have seen the prices for their own crops nose-dive when U.S. free food has been given to their countries.&#8221;</p>
<p>3) <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj29n3/cj29n3-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Peter Bauer and the Failure of Foreign Aid</a> <b>PDF FILE</b>. From the Cato Journal, Fall 2009.  Discusses the failure of US foreign aid with special regard given towards how it has changed over the 20th century leading towards becoming a tool for furthering imperialism.</p>
<p>4) <a href="http://developmentgap.org/americas/Haiti/Foreign_Aid_Given_Hatian_Justice_Denied.htm" rel="nofollow">The Development Gap</a>.  Summarizes an article (original <a href="http://developmentgap.org/americas/Haiti/Democracy_Undermined_Economic_Justice_Denied_Structural_Adjustment_&amp;_Aid_Juggernaut_in_Haiti.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) explaining how the US development banks (the IMF and World Bank) bankrupted Haiti thereby forcing the Haitian govt to accept reparations in the form of US engineering contracts and labor contracts.</p>
<p>and to a lesser extent:</p>
<p>5) <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575010860014031260.html" rel="nofollow">From a Wall Street Journal article written this month</a>. &#8220;For actual Haitians, however, just about every conceivable aid scheme beyond immediate humanitarian relief will lead to more poverty, more corruption and less institutional capacity. It will benefit the well-connected at the expense of the truly needy, divert resources from where they are needed most, and crowd out local enterprise. And it will foster the very culture of dependence the country so desperately needs to break.&#8221;</p>
<p>6) <a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/AID_Haiti.html" rel="nofollow">Third World Traveler</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Tao</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2010/01/19/hugo-meet-rush/comment-page-1/#comment-437583</link>
		<dc:creator>The Tao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The United States only cares about Haiti so far as it takes to keep the boat people from arriving in Miami.&lt;/i&gt;

The same could have been said about Europe&#039;s attitude during the Bosnian/Kosovo conflict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The United States only cares about Haiti so far as it takes to keep the boat people from arriving in Miami.</i></p>
<p>The same could have been said about Europe&#8217;s attitude during the Bosnian/Kosovo conflict.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2010/01/19/hugo-meet-rush/comment-page-1/#comment-437538</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s a fine line most HP contributors try to walk between their conservatism as it applies to Israel and the threat of Islam and their liberalism as applied to everything else.&lt;/i&gt;

What makes our position on Israel and Islamism &quot;conservative&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s a fine line most HP contributors try to walk between their conservatism as it applies to Israel and the threat of Islam and their liberalism as applied to everything else.</i></p>
<p>What makes our position on Israel and Islamism &#8220;conservative&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Beakekin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beakekin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amazed at how many people are experts in a show that they do not bother to listen to. Rush is frequently misquoted and a full transcript shows the true content.

People are fed up with spin doctors and politicians that take polls on what type of pet to buy and where to go on vacation.

There is some anger over the failure to produce results in Haiti despite plenty of aid. This is also the sentiment of an op ed piece in the NYT.
This does not mean we do not help rescue people in need. There is some discussion about corrupt politicians and a cycle of dependency.

Sorry, but folks in the UK who do not listen to these shows should not pronounce themselves experts on the subject. The Mark Levin show is hosted by a Constitutional Scholar who just says things the media elite can not grasp. The Sean Hannity show has plenty of opposing views including Charlie Rangel. Talk radio is infotainment and the political shows even in Montreal and Vermont tend to be on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed at how many people are experts in a show that they do not bother to listen to. Rush is frequently misquoted and a full transcript shows the true content.</p>
<p>People are fed up with spin doctors and politicians that take polls on what type of pet to buy and where to go on vacation.</p>
<p>There is some anger over the failure to produce results in Haiti despite plenty of aid. This is also the sentiment of an op ed piece in the NYT.<br />
This does not mean we do not help rescue people in need. There is some discussion about corrupt politicians and a cycle of dependency.</p>
<p>Sorry, but folks in the UK who do not listen to these shows should not pronounce themselves experts on the subject. The Mark Levin show is hosted by a Constitutional Scholar who just says things the media elite can not grasp. The Sean Hannity show has plenty of opposing views including Charlie Rangel. Talk radio is infotainment and the political shows even in Montreal and Vermont tend to be on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Danger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Rush Limbaugh is a political commentator, and it is the job of those in his profession to analyze...&lt;/i&gt;

This is just about the limpest defense of anything I have ever heard. &quot;His job is to speak and words came out of his mouth so you can&#039;t blame him for that&quot;. &quot;He may have been wrong about that but other people have been wrong about other things so its unfair to single him out&quot;.

Condemned with faint praise I&#039;d say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rush Limbaugh is a political commentator, and it is the job of those in his profession to analyze&#8230;</i></p>
<p>This is just about the limpest defense of anything I have ever heard. &#8220;His job is to speak and words came out of his mouth so you can&#8217;t blame him for that&#8221;. &#8220;He may have been wrong about that but other people have been wrong about other things so its unfair to single him out&#8221;.</p>
<p>Condemned with faint praise I&#8217;d say.</p>
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		<title>By: amie</title>
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		<dc:creator>amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks like a cynical attempt by France to distract from its shameful role in the impoverishment of Haiti, to the tune of the equivalent of $21billion extorted from it.
Let France repay that illegal debt before pointing fingers.

http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=content&amp;ContentID=9636</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like a cynical attempt by France to distract from its shameful role in the impoverishment of Haiti, to the tune of the equivalent of $21billion extorted from it.<br />
Let France repay that illegal debt before pointing fingers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=content&amp;ContentID=9636" rel="nofollow">http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=content&amp;ContentID=9636</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Danger</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2010/01/19/hugo-meet-rush/comment-page-1/#comment-437444</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In the case of Haiti, it’s two things: 1) keep Haitians dependent on US agriculture, and 2) revitalize textile sub-contractors owned by US companies.&lt;/i&gt;

I asked you before to look up some actual numbers. Obviously, you didn&#039;t. Haiti is utterly insignificant and countries with far less intervention from the US, with far higher incomes, with far higher standards of living, get far more trade and investment from the US. This works precisely opposite to the logic you would have us believe.

The fact that you won&#039;t even post any material to back up your argument shows how much conviction you have. Klein/Chomsky types don&#039;t like numbers or context, it confuses things when all you need to know is that it is always America&#039;s fault, and America only does evil.

And the fact that you salute Comrade Zin, who celebrates Cuba&#039;s communist monarchy, shows where your politics really lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In the case of Haiti, it’s two things: 1) keep Haitians dependent on US agriculture, and 2) revitalize textile sub-contractors owned by US companies.</i></p>
<p>I asked you before to look up some actual numbers. Obviously, you didn&#8217;t. Haiti is utterly insignificant and countries with far less intervention from the US, with far higher incomes, with far higher standards of living, get far more trade and investment from the US. This works precisely opposite to the logic you would have us believe.</p>
<p>The fact that you won&#8217;t even post any material to back up your argument shows how much conviction you have. Klein/Chomsky types don&#8217;t like numbers or context, it confuses things when all you need to know is that it is always America&#8217;s fault, and America only does evil.</p>
<p>And the fact that you salute Comrade Zin, who celebrates Cuba&#8217;s communist monarchy, shows where your politics really lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a look at the place of origin of my UCU activist&#039;s tee shirt (&#039;Make a difference: JOin the Union&#039;) and it says &#039;Made in Haiti&#039; on the label. And I am definitely not making this shit up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a look at the place of origin of my UCU activist&#8217;s tee shirt (&#8216;Make a difference: JOin the Union&#8217;) and it says &#8216;Made in Haiti&#8217; on the label. And I am definitely not making this shit up!</p>
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