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		<title>By: Alan Ji</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/30/lying-down-with-dogs/comment-page-2/#comment-431910</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Ji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comstock      @   2 January 2010, 9:34 am 

&quot; An erstwhile Communist State executed a British Muslim. No muslims complained to any degree about this death! &quot;

He wasn&#039;t a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, so fringe groups of extremists couldn&#039;t use him for propaganda purposes.</description>
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<p>&#8221; An erstwhile Communist State executed a British Muslim. No muslims complained to any degree about this death! &#8221;</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, so fringe groups of extremists couldn&#8217;t use him for propaganda purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Comstock</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/30/lying-down-with-dogs/comment-page-2/#comment-431046</link>
		<dc:creator>Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Ji      
   30 December 2009, 9:49 pm 
Right on Alan  Ji,  I take your point but were  ending up with plumbing like in Lahore, before  we were rescued by the Poles.

Strange days as the Doors said! An amazing event happened. An erstwhile Communist State executed a British Muslim. No muslims complained to any degree about this death! Stafford Smith cried! The most amazing thing is that lots of British Labour voters sided with the Chinese Government over their head of their own leaders pleas! This was news worthy if unpalatable stuff but easily ignored!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Ji<br />
   30 December 2009, 9:49 pm<br />
Right on Alan  Ji,  I take your point but were  ending up with plumbing like in Lahore, before  we were rescued by the Poles.</p>
<p>Strange days as the Doors said! An amazing event happened. An erstwhile Communist State executed a British Muslim. No muslims complained to any degree about this death! Stafford Smith cried! The most amazing thing is that lots of British Labour voters sided with the Chinese Government over their head of their own leaders pleas! This was news worthy if unpalatable stuff but easily ignored!</p>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larkers I, for one, have NEVER, EVER, been one to deny the fact that the vast majority of those (whether in the gen. public or in govt)that would be (self) described as &quot;centrists,&quot;  &quot;moderates,&quot; whatever, along with the conservative right (however defined) are, in the main, suicidily naive about this subject. And you are exactly right, the overweening pursuit of the almighty &quot;filthy lucre&quot; is the NO.1 priority for most Univ. administrators, who would put in a good word for the Devil himself dressed in his finest red, horns, Trident, barbed tail and all--as long as he brought along bags of cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larkers I, for one, have NEVER, EVER, been one to deny the fact that the vast majority of those (whether in the gen. public or in govt)that would be (self) described as &#8220;centrists,&#8221;  &#8220;moderates,&#8221; whatever, along with the conservative right (however defined) are, in the main, suicidily naive about this subject. And you are exactly right, the overweening pursuit of the almighty &#8220;filthy lucre&#8221; is the NO.1 priority for most Univ. administrators, who would put in a good word for the Devil himself dressed in his finest red, horns, Trident, barbed tail and all&#8211;as long as he brought along bags of cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Larkers</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/30/lying-down-with-dogs/comment-page-2/#comment-430996</link>
		<dc:creator>Larkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ll start with a counter-example. I think universal literacy and opportunities to learn are good, and I think the previously dominant culture that blocked and denied these was bad.&quot; – Alan Ji 9.49 p.m. 30.12.09

Seconded.

Actually the people doing much of the hand wringing in academia are now and never were more than businessmen charged with getting as many overseas students to sign up as humanly possible. Huge accommodation blocks are being whacked up close to my home to house chiefly overseas students at this northern city&#039;s two universities.

I note one such glorified accommodation officer (&#039;Vice Chancellor for Lettings&#039;) has come out today saying UCL (his concern) is not a centre of Islamic extremism, despite the Christmas Day event over Detroit which involved a former student and President of the UCL student Islamic society. I find this a bit rich. There is almost a beaten path between academia and jihad in the U.K. However, to insist this is all the result of  those incredibly influential lefties is imaginative but unhelpful. The list of persons rolling up at the East London &quot;mosque&quot; jihadi recruitment centre to encourage the brethren is hardly a roll call of &#039;lefties&#039; is it? Those pinning their hopes on &#039;Call me Dave&#039; Cameron sorting this lot out are deceiving themselves. Dame Pauline Neville-Jones (&quot;a former senior figure in U.K. government&quot; [a.k.a Intelligence]) is &#039;Dave&#039;s&#039; appointee for such issues as &#039;Moslem anger&#039; and has said (on Newsnight, BBC 2 TV) that &quot;where appropriate British foreign policy will need to be looked at&quot;. That translates to me as: &#039;Keep bombing us. It will bring you results&#039;. I wait to be corrected but I do not think you (Alcuin, virgil xenophon, et al) will find Dame Pauline is now or ever was a lefty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ll start with a counter-example. I think universal literacy and opportunities to learn are good, and I think the previously dominant culture that blocked and denied these was bad.&#8221; – Alan Ji 9.49 p.m. 30.12.09</p>
<p>Seconded.</p>
<p>Actually the people doing much of the hand wringing in academia are now and never were more than businessmen charged with getting as many overseas students to sign up as humanly possible. Huge accommodation blocks are being whacked up close to my home to house chiefly overseas students at this northern city&#8217;s two universities.</p>
<p>I note one such glorified accommodation officer (&#8216;Vice Chancellor for Lettings&#8217;) has come out today saying UCL (his concern) is not a centre of Islamic extremism, despite the Christmas Day event over Detroit which involved a former student and President of the UCL student Islamic society. I find this a bit rich. There is almost a beaten path between academia and jihad in the U.K. However, to insist this is all the result of  those incredibly influential lefties is imaginative but unhelpful. The list of persons rolling up at the East London &#8220;mosque&#8221; jihadi recruitment centre to encourage the brethren is hardly a roll call of &#8216;lefties&#8217; is it? Those pinning their hopes on &#8216;Call me Dave&#8217; Cameron sorting this lot out are deceiving themselves. Dame Pauline Neville-Jones (&#8220;a former senior figure in U.K. government&#8221; [a.k.a Intelligence]) is &#8216;Dave&#8217;s&#8217; appointee for such issues as &#8216;Moslem anger&#8217; and has said (on Newsnight, BBC 2 TV) that &#8220;where appropriate British foreign policy will need to be looked at&#8221;. That translates to me as: &#8216;Keep bombing us. It will bring you results&#8217;. I wait to be corrected but I do not think you (Alcuin, virgil xenophon, et al) will find Dame Pauline is now or ever was a lefty.</p>
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		<title>By: KB Player</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB Player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJB really is too good to be true as the stereotyped Nazi.  As well as his paranoia, pagan religion, barmy racial theories and science and history he makes up all by himself, he also has the classic &lt;i&gt;ressentiment&lt;/i&gt;*of the outsider who thinks he has been passed over from the career success he so richly deserves by the machinations of others.  Y&#039;know, like Hitler and architecture.  

It&#039;s not a case that you couldn&#039;t make him up.  In fact, any half way competent fiction writer in his least inspired moments could make LJB up, and would be lambasted by critics for producing such a stock would-be Nazi fantasist character.

*&quot;Ressentiment is a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one&#039;s own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJB really is too good to be true as the stereotyped Nazi.  As well as his paranoia, pagan religion, barmy racial theories and science and history he makes up all by himself, he also has the classic <i>ressentiment</i>*of the outsider who thinks he has been passed over from the career success he so richly deserves by the machinations of others.  Y&#8217;know, like Hitler and architecture.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a case that you couldn&#8217;t make him up.  In fact, any half way competent fiction writer in his least inspired moments could make LJB up, and would be lambasted by critics for producing such a stock would-be Nazi fantasist character.</p>
<p>*&#8221;Ressentiment is a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one&#8217;s own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Slave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I wouldn&#039;t jump to Barnes defence in supporting his opinion I would say this: the idea that you can become a qualified lawyer by passing tough exams is a fiction. While this is more merely technically true for other professions, e.g. engineering, it is much more true for law. Passing tough exams gets you to the starting line. Getting to the finish line requires you to get an existing lawyer to hire you, and that isn&#039;t just a matter of passing tough exams. While I am sceptical of anti-white discrimination, being an open member of the BNP would be likely to prevent someone from qualifying in law even if they got the highest marks in the country in their exams. Which is not to go into any other more subtle forms of discrimination that have not registered on any politically correct radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I wouldn&#8217;t jump to Barnes defence in supporting his opinion I would say this: the idea that you can become a qualified lawyer by passing tough exams is a fiction. While this is more merely technically true for other professions, e.g. engineering, it is much more true for law. Passing tough exams gets you to the starting line. Getting to the finish line requires you to get an existing lawyer to hire you, and that isn&#8217;t just a matter of passing tough exams. While I am sceptical of anti-white discrimination, being an open member of the BNP would be likely to prevent someone from qualifying in law even if they got the highest marks in the country in their exams. Which is not to go into any other more subtle forms of discrimination that have not registered on any politically correct radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Surely there’s somebody out there who can actually counter Lee John Barnes’ point rather than insult him.

No, Benji.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Surely there’s somebody out there who can actually counter Lee John Barnes’ point rather than insult him.</p>
<p>No, Benji.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanislaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanislaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“vocal advocates of the joys of Islam”..and the rest of it?&quot;

You explain first who are the numerous Jewish &quot;vocal advocates of the joys of Islam&quot;. Until you can, I&#039;ll treat Barnes&#039; &#039;point&#039; as non-existent and his words just the usual nutty hate-filled rambling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“vocal advocates of the joys of Islam”..and the rest of it?&#8221;</p>
<p>You explain first who are the numerous Jewish &#8220;vocal advocates of the joys of Islam&#8221;. Until you can, I&#8217;ll treat Barnes&#8217; &#8216;point&#8217; as non-existent and his words just the usual nutty hate-filled rambling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stanislaw

“vocal advocates of the joys of Islam”..and the rest of it?

It&#039;s not simply a case of not liking Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stanislaw</p>
<p>“vocal advocates of the joys of Islam”..and the rest of it?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not simply a case of not liking Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Ji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Ji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcuin      @   30 December 2009, 6:23 pm 

&quot;It is the political Left – in our Universities, Newspapers, Film studios, Literary festivals and the virtual monopoly of the BBC – that has brought us to this pretty pass, by pretending that all cultures are equally “good”&quot;

Could you give us some examples of 
1) the kind of things that are bothiring you actually happening
2) any examples of how this can be evidentially link to any rcognisable &quot;political left&quot;.  

I&#039;ll start with a counter-example. I think universal literacy and opportuinities to learn are good, and I think the previously dominant culture that blocked and denied these was bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcuin      @   30 December 2009, 6:23 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;It is the political Left – in our Universities, Newspapers, Film studios, Literary festivals and the virtual monopoly of the BBC – that has brought us to this pretty pass, by pretending that all cultures are equally “good”&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you give us some examples of<br />
1) the kind of things that are bothiring you actually happening<br />
2) any examples of how this can be evidentially link to any rcognisable &#8220;political left&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start with a counter-example. I think universal literacy and opportuinities to learn are good, and I think the previously dominant culture that blocked and denied these was bad.</p>
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