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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Mary DeSimone</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425710</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary DeSimone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuclear weapons will always be an issue regardless of where they are.  The fact that we are fighting a war in Afganastan says to me we&#039;d better be paying particular attention to this country because they&#039;re paying attention to us!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear weapons will always be an issue regardless of where they are.  The fact that we are fighting a war in Afganastan says to me we&#8217;d better be paying particular attention to this country because they&#8217;re paying attention to us!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Posner</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425460</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LA TIMES writes:

Even though Iranian officials have returned the medal, diplomats from Sweden and Norway, homes to the institutions that help administer the Nobel Prizes, called attention to her treatment during the awarding of this year&#039;s peace prize to President Obama.

&quot;Ms. Ebadi is prevented from working as a defender of human rights in her home country, and the Iranian authorities have closed the Defenders of Human Rights Center of which she was co-founder,&quot; Norway’s foreign minister, Jonas Gahr Stoere, and his Swedish counterpart, Carl Bildt, said in a statement issued Thursday. 


I reiterate ..&quot;Human rights&quot;  and &quot;peace&quot; are not the same thing in the English language. In Norwegian they might be. But in English they are not. Often nations have to go to war to protect &quot;human rights&quot;.

One has to conclude that the Norwegians believe in appeasement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LA TIMES writes:</p>
<p>Even though Iranian officials have returned the medal, diplomats from Sweden and Norway, homes to the institutions that help administer the Nobel Prizes, called attention to her treatment during the awarding of this year&#8217;s peace prize to President Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms. Ebadi is prevented from working as a defender of human rights in her home country, and the Iranian authorities have closed the Defenders of Human Rights Center of which she was co-founder,&#8221; Norway’s foreign minister, Jonas Gahr Stoere, and his Swedish counterpart, Carl Bildt, said in a statement issued Thursday. </p>
<p>I reiterate ..&#8221;Human rights&#8221;  and &#8220;peace&#8221; are not the same thing in the English language. In Norwegian they might be. But in English they are not. Often nations have to go to war to protect &#8220;human rights&#8221;.</p>
<p>One has to conclude that the Norwegians believe in appeasement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Posner</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425458</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama said:
&quot;For make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world. A nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies. Negotiations cannot convince al-Qaidas leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history, the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.&quot;

(1)I doubt whether terrorists like al-Qaida can be defeated.
(2) It is interesting that Obama compared &quot;Al-Qaida&#039;s&quot; to &quot;Hitler&#039;s armies&quot;.This was a mistake. He should have compared &quot;Hitler&#039;s armies&quot; to Madman-iniran&#039;s regime.
(3) Obama is misleading the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama said:<br />
&#8220;For make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world. A nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies. Negotiations cannot convince al-Qaidas leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history, the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.&#8221;</p>
<p>(1)I doubt whether terrorists like al-Qaida can be defeated.<br />
(2) It is interesting that Obama compared &#8220;Al-Qaida&#8217;s&#8221; to &#8220;Hitler&#8217;s armies&#8221;.This was a mistake. He should have compared &#8220;Hitler&#8217;s armies&#8221; to Madman-iniran&#8217;s regime.<br />
(3) Obama is misleading the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Posner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy 12 December 10:16 pm writes

&quot;Obama mentioned nice safe past Nobel Peace Prize winners. He kept completely silent about Iran’s Shirin Ebadi, even though this was within days of the Iranian regime having raided her bank deposit box and confiscated her Peace Prize Medal. What an outrage for him to have turned a blind eye to at such a time. &quot;

Obviously Obama didn&#039;t want to upset Madman-iniran.

Of course, Shirin Ebadi should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for Human Rights or a Nobel Prize for Democracy. Further evidence that Nobel Prize for Peace is ludicrous.

The tragedy is that Obama has been appeasing Madman-iniran. And it will probably lead to a nuclear war. Kindov ironik?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy 12 December 10:16 pm writes</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama mentioned nice safe past Nobel Peace Prize winners. He kept completely silent about Iran’s Shirin Ebadi, even though this was within days of the Iranian regime having raided her bank deposit box and confiscated her Peace Prize Medal. What an outrage for him to have turned a blind eye to at such a time. &#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously Obama didn&#8217;t want to upset Madman-iniran.</p>
<p>Of course, Shirin Ebadi should have been awarded a Nobel Prize for Human Rights or a Nobel Prize for Democracy. Further evidence that Nobel Prize for Peace is ludicrous.</p>
<p>The tragedy is that Obama has been appeasing Madman-iniran. And it will probably lead to a nuclear war. Kindov ironik?</p>
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		<title>By: Irenicum</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425449</link>
		<dc:creator>Irenicum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my favorite part of the speech was this:

But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone. I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world. A nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies. Negotiations cannot convince al-Qaidas leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history, the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.

It showed what I had believed from the start, that Obama was more of a centrist than either the left or the right had thought. As I said in my latest blog entry, It seems our President is an Augustinian Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my favorite part of the speech was this:</p>
<p>But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone. I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world. A nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies. Negotiations cannot convince al-Qaidas leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history, the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.</p>
<p>It showed what I had believed from the start, that Obama was more of a centrist than either the left or the right had thought. As I said in my latest blog entry, It seems our President is an Augustinian Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect if the US has gone into Darfur or Rwanda militarily, we&#039;d have exactly the same complaints after the event that we had on Iraq, from exactly the same people. Instead of which they didn&#039;t, so ended up with... another set of complaints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect if the US has gone into Darfur or Rwanda militarily, we&#8217;d have exactly the same complaints after the event that we had on Iraq, from exactly the same people. Instead of which they didn&#8217;t, so ended up with&#8230; another set of complaints.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425427</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a very good speech, and I&#039;m saying that as someone who generally doesn&#039;t think a great deal of Obama&#039;s forign policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a very good speech, and I&#8217;m saying that as someone who generally doesn&#8217;t think a great deal of Obama&#8217;s forign policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425402</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama mentioned nice safe past Nobel Peace Prize winners. He kept completely silent about Iran&#039;s Shirin Ebadi, even though this was within days of the Iranian regime having raided her bank deposit box and confiscated her Peace Prize Medal. What an outrage for him to have turned a blind eye to at such a time. But the Norwegian Foreign minister and Norwegian and Swedish diplomats did speak out about it. Good for them. Yesterday, Iran &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/12/iran-authorities-hand-back-shirin-ebadis-nobel-peace-prize-medal.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;handed the medal back&lt;/a&gt;, but it&#039;s still hounding Ebadi and her family.

Never mind. Nice speech. He looked very good in the photo ops. Michelle had a great hairdo. He&#039;s a great feelgood front man.

The British Foreign Office top civil servants used to have a wonderful bit of self-serving self-justification for masterly inaction. They called it &quot;doing good by doing little&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama mentioned nice safe past Nobel Peace Prize winners. He kept completely silent about Iran&#8217;s Shirin Ebadi, even though this was within days of the Iranian regime having raided her bank deposit box and confiscated her Peace Prize Medal. What an outrage for him to have turned a blind eye to at such a time. But the Norwegian Foreign minister and Norwegian and Swedish diplomats did speak out about it. Good for them. Yesterday, Iran <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/12/iran-authorities-hand-back-shirin-ebadis-nobel-peace-prize-medal.html" rel="nofollow">handed the medal back</a>, but it&#8217;s still hounding Ebadi and her family.</p>
<p>Never mind. Nice speech. He looked very good in the photo ops. Michelle had a great hairdo. He&#8217;s a great feelgood front man.</p>
<p>The British Foreign Office top civil servants used to have a wonderful bit of self-serving self-justification for masterly inaction. They called it &#8220;doing good by doing little&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: EscapeVelocity</title>
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		<dc:creator>EscapeVelocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophia, I think what we really need is less evil arseholes in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophia, I think what we really need is less evil arseholes in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Israelinurse</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/12/11/obamas-nobel-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-425231</link>
		<dc:creator>Israelinurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - I&#039;m not quite sure how it escaped your attention, but Hizbollah is indeed motivated by &#039;a fascist ideology of domimation (sic) on a massive scale.&#039; &#039;Land tussels&#039; have little or nothing to do with it - they are merely the hype put forward in order to gain credibility with and sympathy from the Western world. 
Obviously, it has worked on you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; I&#8217;m not quite sure how it escaped your attention, but Hizbollah is indeed motivated by &#8216;a fascist ideology of domimation (sic) on a massive scale.&#8217; &#8216;Land tussels&#8217; have little or nothing to do with it &#8211; they are merely the hype put forward in order to gain credibility with and sympathy from the Western world.<br />
Obviously, it has worked on you&#8230;</p>
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