…It is quite obvious that the odious Galloway and his ilk have supported and encouraged, and continue to support and encourage, odious regimes and movements. For Galloway et al., such regimes/movements may commit any and every atrocity (often—in fact, usually—against “their own people”) as long as they declare themselves sufficiently anti-American and anti-Zionist, and, preferably, act on it.

Still, To my ears (eyes, nose), yours is a rather strange formulation.

Why focus on the foibles of the Galloways of this world? This, after all, is what they do. (One might as well blame urban-dwelling bats for defacing the sides of buildings—and anything and anyone else that might lie in the path of their centrifugally dispersed guano.)

I would prefer to focus on the actors.

If Hamas (or for that matter, Hezbullah—or anyone else) decides that it is their supreme right to destroy the Zionist Entity, and then sacrifices to that end the people who purportedly voted for and/or support them (and, unfortunately, as well, those others who didn’t and don’t—intimidation being rife in such societies), and then bitterly and self-righteously complain when the Zionist Entity would prefer not to lend material support to their efforts; and/or bitterly complain when their bombardments of the Zionist Entity backfire (let us say), even as they exult in those bombardments and the “grand victories” that they entail; then I would prefer to blame Hamas and Hezbullah (and those who arm them).

(Granted, maybe there’s something wrong with me.)

Do you think that people like Galloway and Booth do not help perpetuate the imprisonment of Gazans?

Stan

It is then, not clear at all.

I can (I have not but it might take only a day or two for this to be done) I think ‘prove’ that the R101 was brought down by, oh, a U.F.O., or Nazi agents, or ‘Zionists’. In fact I do not have to prove every much. The onus would be on those who disagree to prove my ideas are plain invention. In practice this is very difficult.

There is no weight of evidence which can be assembled to disprove any theory which is the result of faith, here a twisted and distorted view of humanity and human life on this planet.

(Though we know that if their goal—i.e., of Israel’s eradication—must be achieved by suffering (as it seems it must), and then suffering some more, then suffer they will—and with relish and pride—though they wouldn’t dream of not complaining about such suffering—what? and forego the extraordinary amounts of money donated to alleviate it??)

If you wish to blame the loony left (and anyone else) for their plight, then by all means….

The loony left that supports the cause of keeping Gaza and Israel enemies is actually helping to keep the prison in tact.

Oh, so Hamas’s goal of Israel’s eradication and its turning Gaza into a militarized islamo-fascist state (complete with throwing some opponents off rooftops and kneecapping others) can be blamed on the loony left?

(And here I was thinking it could be blamed on Israel….)

Well, thanks for the clarity.

So Barry, do you think that the Loony left (people like Galloway, and Lauren Booth) do not help keep the Gaza prison in tact? Do you think that Hamas does not use them as part of their strategy?

It seems that a statement that shows any understanding of the plight of Palestinians in Gaza you somehow interpret as support for Hamas.

The old carpenters adage of “measure twice cut once” can be applied here. Think twice speak once.

Stan

From the Free Gaza mailing list

Most prefer their financial contributions go toward to humanitarian aid for Palestine. But Palestine is not a charity case! There are hundreds of millions being pumped into Palestine by aid agencies that are unable or unwilling to address the political issues, or by donor countries that shirk their political, legal, and moral obligations, by throwing money at Palestine.

This aid is paying for Israel’s occupation by alleviating Israel of the responsibility to care for the people it occupies. We firmly believe that activists and people who care about Palestine should not be raising money for humanitarian aid but should focus on direct action to confront the Israeli policies that leave Palestinians in need of this aid.

There you have it, the loony left in the form of the so-called Free Gaza Movement, having accepted money from antisemite and former Prime Minister of Malaysia, Dr. Mahathir Mohamed and after soliciting for €300,000, for a vanity passenger vessel and another €100,000 for their operating expenses (fuel, port fees, crew wages, etc.), are calling for an end to all humanitarian aid and calling for “direct action” to “address” “political obligations” to “confront” Israel.

Oh, so Hamas’s goal of Israel’s eradication and its turning Gaza into a militarized islamo-fascist state (complete with throwing some opponents off rooftops and kneecapping others) can be blamed on the loony left?

Had Barry Meislin had read Stan’s comment a little more carefully he would have noticed that Stan was not saying that Hamas’ goals can be blamed on the loony left, but rather that the loony left supports Hamas goals.

But the Free Gaza Movement will now have to adjust their message and distance themselves from their call to end all humanitarian aid, that is if they wish to continue supporting Hamas’ goals:

Commenting on the UNRWA budget crisis, Hamas’ minister of refugee affairs Hussam Ahmed says the the UNRWA budget deficit is a political issue, and that UNRWA is trying to use it to impose a political agenda on Palestinian Arabs.

He said “We are against the policy of Arabization of UNRWA because it pushes the international community to abandon its responsibilities towards refugees, and support towards making the refugee issue an Arab issue and not an international one.”

Oh, so Hamas’s goal of Israel’s eradication and its turning Gaza into a militarized islamo-fascist state (complete with throwing some opponents off rooftops and kneecapping others) can be blamed on the loony left?

(And here I was thinking it could be blamed on Israel….)

Well, thanks for the clarity.

During the Gaza war, didn’t the Gazans tear down one of the walls and flood Egypt, only to be rounded up by Hamas and Egyptian authorities back to Gaza?

I think its a myth that the Israelis are preventing Gazans from travelling abroad.

If Gazans left Gaza, how is Hamas going to justify all the handouts it gets from the EU and UN and continue getting paid? Hamas would love to see a population explosion and mass poverty in Gaza so it may justify the millions in assistance and handouts it gets.