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	<title>Comments on: Uncut racism in Austrian parliament</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Technolust</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-2/#comment-416189</link>
		<dc:creator>Technolust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this make my bell-end a victim or a fanatic?

If those nerve endings were discarded sometime in 1988, then it has no way to offer a riposte. Shame on everyone who just commented- you&#039;re all guilty of genitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this make my bell-end a victim or a fanatic?</p>
<p>If those nerve endings were discarded sometime in 1988, then it has no way to offer a riposte. Shame on everyone who just commented- you&#8217;re all guilty of genitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-2/#comment-415781</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a side note a woman who is an apostate form Iraq who lived in Palestine once answered my question about whether people in that area consider honour killing part of Islam. 

She said that it is controversial and maybe half the people think it is part of Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a side note a woman who is an apostate form Iraq who lived in Palestine once answered my question about whether people in that area consider honour killing part of Islam. </p>
<p>She said that it is controversial and maybe half the people think it is part of Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-415761</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Josh has illustrated above in the Jordanian example, there are precedents for the enshrining of murder as a religious imperative.

Don&#039;t ask for, or expect, my acquiescence in the murder or mutilatation of anyone, and especially any interference with a juvenile without the ability to give informed consent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Josh has illustrated above in the Jordanian example, there are precedents for the enshrining of murder as a religious imperative.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ask for, or expect, my acquiescence in the murder or mutilatation of anyone, and especially any interference with a juvenile without the ability to give informed consent.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-415748</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk about how banning circumcision would end Judaism reminds me of when the King of Jordan introduced a bill that would punish honor killing.  There were speeches in their Parliament saying that the bill infringed on peoples right to practice their religion (as well as a speech that all the girls killed are whores who deserve death) and the bill went down to defeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk about how banning circumcision would end Judaism reminds me of when the King of Jordan introduced a bill that would punish honor killing.  There were speeches in their Parliament saying that the bill infringed on peoples right to practice their religion (as well as a speech that all the girls killed are whores who deserve death) and the bill went down to defeat.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-415740</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick (in South Africa)	   	
	  28 November 2009, 5:11 pm


preventing parents circumcising their children would be discriminatory
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Sorry Nick but that&#039;s just tough. It pales into complete insignificance in comparison with our duty to protect children from unneccessary surgical interference. I&#039;m not signing up to some screwball notion that I have a duty to discriminate against some children, and only extend my duty of protection to the others.  It&#039;s all or nothing. We have to have principles, and they have to be rational and consistently applied within our territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick (in South Africa)<br />
	  28 November 2009, 5:11 pm</p>
<p>preventing parents circumcising their children would be discriminatory<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Sorry Nick but that&#8217;s just tough. It pales into complete insignificance in comparison with our duty to protect children from unneccessary surgical interference. I&#8217;m not signing up to some screwball notion that I have a duty to discriminate against some children, and only extend my duty of protection to the others.  It&#8217;s all or nothing. We have to have principles, and they have to be rational and consistently applied within our territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon, is your ignorance on this matter the product of naivety or bloody-minded stupidity? 

At the risk of inducing snickers, might I suggest that if you had ever seen a circumcised penis, you might be a little better informed. As a gay man now living in the US, I have seen many, and I can tell you that scarring is standard. Almost all the ones I have seen have a ring scar half-way up the shaft, marking a clear change in colour. Many have scar tissue below the glans, where the foreskin was scraped away. And the glans are very different, rendered dry and calloused by permanent exposure.

From experience, I can tell you the desensitisation of the glans does not prolong sexual intercourse. It does make it more difficult for the penis to become erect, and that may well mean that circumcised boys avoid those embarrassing erections on the bus, but I don&#039;t believe the price is worth paying. No experienced women seek out sex with circumcised men in the vain belief that they last longer - just perhaps a few young ladies as uninformed on the matter as yourself.

Finally, the notion others have put forward that a ban on performing uneccessary genital modification on children would outlaw Judaism, is absolute nonsense. As Joshua Scholar says, it would merely lead Jewish culture to change. Some Jews have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/ritual.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already changed in this way&lt;/a&gt;; circumcision is not universal amongst Jews (or Muslims). While circumcision is not the same as female genital mutilation, the notion that outlawing it would criminalise Judaism or force Jews out, is the same as the notion that criminalising FGM has criminalised Islam or forced certain African ethnic groups out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon, is your ignorance on this matter the product of naivety or bloody-minded stupidity? </p>
<p>At the risk of inducing snickers, might I suggest that if you had ever seen a circumcised penis, you might be a little better informed. As a gay man now living in the US, I have seen many, and I can tell you that scarring is standard. Almost all the ones I have seen have a ring scar half-way up the shaft, marking a clear change in colour. Many have scar tissue below the glans, where the foreskin was scraped away. And the glans are very different, rendered dry and calloused by permanent exposure.</p>
<p>From experience, I can tell you the desensitisation of the glans does not prolong sexual intercourse. It does make it more difficult for the penis to become erect, and that may well mean that circumcised boys avoid those embarrassing erections on the bus, but I don&#8217;t believe the price is worth paying. No experienced women seek out sex with circumcised men in the vain belief that they last longer &#8211; just perhaps a few young ladies as uninformed on the matter as yourself.</p>
<p>Finally, the notion others have put forward that a ban on performing uneccessary genital modification on children would outlaw Judaism, is absolute nonsense. As Joshua Scholar says, it would merely lead Jewish culture to change. Some Jews have <a href="http://www.jewishcircumcision.org/ritual.htm" rel="nofollow">already changed in this way</a>; circumcision is not universal amongst Jews (or Muslims). While circumcision is not the same as female genital mutilation, the notion that outlawing it would criminalise Judaism or force Jews out, is the same as the notion that criminalising FGM has criminalised Islam or forced certain African ethnic groups out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Bennet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Bennet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. And it&#039;s highly doubtful that the foreskin is &quot;more sensitive than the glans&quot;. Removing it exposes the glans to more friction, which desensitises it a little, with the results mentioned above. This has no effect on the intensity of orgasm, it merely allows intercourse to be prolonged (in many cases, anyway).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. And it&#8217;s highly doubtful that the foreskin is &#8220;more sensitive than the glans&#8221;. Removing it exposes the glans to more friction, which desensitises it a little, with the results mentioned above. This has no effect on the intensity of orgasm, it merely allows intercourse to be prolonged (in many cases, anyway).</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Bennet</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-415611</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Bennet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Josh, I do not allow an ignorant and rude person like you to dictate to me when I should or should not be ashamed of myself ...

You and the Rambam are talking nonsense. All things considered, circumcision renders the glans less super-sensitive. Often, this means that the man can prolong intercourse and give himself and his female partner more pleasure before he reaches orgasm.
Many experienced women are keen to have sex with Jewish men for this very reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Josh, I do not allow an ignorant and rude person like you to dictate to me when I should or should not be ashamed of myself &#8230;</p>
<p>You and the Rambam are talking nonsense. All things considered, circumcision renders the glans less super-sensitive. Often, this means that the man can prolong intercourse and give himself and his female partner more pleasure before he reaches orgasm.<br />
Many experienced women are keen to have sex with Jewish men for this very reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/26/uncut-racism-in-austrian-parliament/comment-page-1/#comment-415591</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick (in South Africa), j. r., Gordon Bennet, I&#039;ll say it again WHAT OTHER BODY PARTS COULD YOU DEPRIVE YOUR CHILD OF WITHOUT BEING A CRIMINAL? &lt;I&gt;Or is it only the most sensitive part of his penis?&lt;/I&gt; 

Fucking disgusting! [Spit!]

Each of you should be totally ashamed of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick (in South Africa), j. r., Gordon Bennet, I&#8217;ll say it again WHAT OTHER BODY PARTS COULD YOU DEPRIVE YOUR CHILD OF WITHOUT BEING A CRIMINAL? <i>Or is it only the most sensitive part of his penis?</i> </p>
<p>Fucking disgusting! [Spit!]</p>
<p>Each of you should be totally ashamed of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Bennet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Bennet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Those who circumcise their children for religious reasons are fanatics and should fuck off back to whatever rat hole they came from.&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s the BNP thugs proving how non-antisemitic they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Those who circumcise their children for religious reasons are fanatics and should fuck off back to whatever rat hole they came from.</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s the BNP thugs proving how non-antisemitic they are.</p>
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