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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-414137</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks,  Josh Scholar and Mr. Danger for exposing Mr. M for the idiot he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,  Josh Scholar and Mr. Danger for exposing Mr. M for the idiot he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Danger</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413521</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are you saying you would have sent a BNP member to discuss and report about Jewish issues?&lt;/i&gt;

That really is an exceptionally offensive and stupid statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are you saying you would have sent a BNP member to discuss and report about Jewish issues?</i></p>
<p>That really is an exceptionally offensive and stupid statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413499</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Mr. M, please enlighten us.   Which part of that story do you think is a lie by the god damn Jewess?  Tell us, about what is she lying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Mr. M, please enlighten us.   Which part of that story do you think is a lie by the god damn Jewess?  Tell us, about what is she lying?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413492</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see, Mr. M.

All people with a Jewish name are equal to BNP members.

Also if we send Jewish reporters we mush want more suicide bombers and we&#039;re sullying the good names of Arabs and Islam...

Keep digging you god damn fascist bigot, keep digging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see, Mr. M.</p>
<p>All people with a Jewish name are equal to BNP members.</p>
<p>Also if we send Jewish reporters we mush want more suicide bombers and we&#8217;re sullying the good names of Arabs and Islam&#8230;</p>
<p>Keep digging you god damn fascist bigot, keep digging!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr M</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413421</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

Are you saying you would have sent a BNP member to discuss and report about Jewish issues?

It is just bad taste, and unfair. Even if the cause was good, the main people who needed to pay attention such as the Muslims in the west would ignore it. But that is unless you want more suicides to equate Islam,Arabs etc with suicide bombing and other madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>Are you saying you would have sent a BNP member to discuss and report about Jewish issues?</p>
<p>It is just bad taste, and unfair. Even if the cause was good, the main people who needed to pay attention such as the Muslims in the west would ignore it. But that is unless you want more suicides to equate Islam,Arabs etc with suicide bombing and other madness.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413316</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, lol, that they blow them up remotely!

:) 

That MUST hurt, Mr. M!

Do terrorists blown up by remote control go to heaven, Mr. M?

If so, maybe the glorious resistance should just buy an airplane, strap the bombs to babies and throw them out the bomb bay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, lol, that they blow them up remotely!</p>
<p>:) </p>
<p>That MUST hurt, Mr. M!</p>
<p>Do terrorists blown up by remote control go to heaven, Mr. M?</p>
<p>If so, maybe the glorious resistance should just buy an airplane, strap the bombs to babies and throw them out the bomb bay!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413315</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David All, Mr. M&#039;s comment was perfectly clear.  He said:

1) The reporter has a Jewish name.  If only she had told the Islamists she was Jewish we would have been spared this embarrassing report, or at very least she would have gotten the hostile reaction all Jews deserve.

2) Any criticism of suicide terrorists is a lie, probably invented by the Jewish conspiracy and brought to us by a Mz. Rubin.  

I&#039;m not sure which part of the story Mr. M wanted suppressed.  Probably that not all suicide terrorists succeed, that the woman was abused by her husband, that the glorious martyrs kill civilians, that they are ordinary bigots who call Americans &quot;Jews&quot; as they kill them - or perhaps that the word &quot;bomber&quot; was used instead of Mujahideen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David All, Mr. M&#8217;s comment was perfectly clear.  He said:</p>
<p>1) The reporter has a Jewish name.  If only she had told the Islamists she was Jewish we would have been spared this embarrassing report, or at very least she would have gotten the hostile reaction all Jews deserve.</p>
<p>2) Any criticism of suicide terrorists is a lie, probably invented by the Jewish conspiracy and brought to us by a Mz. Rubin.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure which part of the story Mr. M wanted suppressed.  Probably that not all suicide terrorists succeed, that the woman was abused by her husband, that the glorious martyrs kill civilians, that they are ordinary bigots who call Americans &#8220;Jews&#8221; as they kill them &#8211; or perhaps that the word &#8220;bomber&#8221; was used instead of Mujahideen.</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413271</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have finished reading the article. It is quite frightening and depressing. Can only hope the jihadists run out of suicide bombers before they run out of targets.

Mr M. Your post does not make sense. Please explain in more detail what you mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have finished reading the article. It is quite frightening and depressing. Can only hope the jihadists run out of suicide bombers before they run out of targets.</p>
<p>Mr M. Your post does not make sense. Please explain in more detail what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: mettaculture</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413267</link>
		<dc:creator>mettaculture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is hopelessley self indulgent however.

Alissa Rubin is rehearsing a pseudo femminist scrpt of disempowered women traumatised by the &#039;occupation&#039; above all.

Her weasel words such as women rarely do this &#039;alone&#039; and the choice of suicide is not entirely theirs to make&#039;.

Of course bloody not and not for psychological reasons.

Women and children are weaponised increasingly to get around the success of apprehending male auto-bombers.

She did not listen to the detective &#039;do not generalise each story is different&#039;.

The story that is the same is the process of their weaponisation.

To weaponise humans you need;

1. A general collectivist anti individual culture.  A culture of self sacrifice and acceptance that some will sacrifice themselves for others.

2.  Militant terrorist organisations prepared to use humans.  This from the Tamil Tigers to Palestinian to Iraq &#039;anti-insurgents&#039; happens where there are competive militant organisations and one decides to use increasingly miilitant tactics.

3.  Recruitment, vulnerable individuals are targeted.  Generally this starts with ideological zealots fanatics and the fully volunteering.

4.  Grooming this always is a process between seduction and initiation into a cult.  The individual whatever their original motivation must be bonded wedded to the cult the group and ego stripped and then redirected.

5.  The dedication ceremony.  always present usually totally misunderstood even when we get to see their matyrdom video afterwards.

This is the public commitment always in a group often by video it is a dedication almost a marriage where sacrifice is offered ritually sealed and spiritual reward offered.

This ceremony marks the no-going back (so that failed bombers will try again or kill themselves in shame).

6.  Publicity  To secure the dedication and the no-going back the perrsons name and perhaps video will be widely disseminated among the peer population so that the hero, the martyr can neveer hold their head up high if a failure.

During this period the dedicated suicide bomber may be traded or sold between groups, just like other weapons.

7.  Bomb target selection and delivery.  Like any missile or bomb it has to be delivered pay load dropped.  This is never under the control of the individual who becoming a mere weapon ceased to have any real autonomy.

To underscore the fact that the weaponised human suicide bomber is now not human in the minds of her handlers increasingly they are detonated by another.

The descent into the use of women children and the mentally and physically disabled was as inevitable as night follows day as was the arming of an additional detonator for remote explosion of the walking bomb.

I wish journalist would stop with the psychological motivations.  It actually in seeking a quasi legitimacy for their acts through individual trauma further dehumanises them and makes the monstrously evil weaponisers off the hook.

Those who make bombs out of humans in a human bomb factory have all of the greatest evil knowable;  Hannah Arrendt&#039;s &#039;banality of evil.

Name the human bomb makers don&#039;t rationalise and excuse the human bombs through a tendentious psychodrama of the individual tortured beyond all imagination becoming the Gothic monster of a glib Penny Dreadful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is hopelessley self indulgent however.</p>
<p>Alissa Rubin is rehearsing a pseudo femminist scrpt of disempowered women traumatised by the &#8216;occupation&#8217; above all.</p>
<p>Her weasel words such as women rarely do this &#8216;alone&#8217; and the choice of suicide is not entirely theirs to make&#8217;.</p>
<p>Of course bloody not and not for psychological reasons.</p>
<p>Women and children are weaponised increasingly to get around the success of apprehending male auto-bombers.</p>
<p>She did not listen to the detective &#8216;do not generalise each story is different&#8217;.</p>
<p>The story that is the same is the process of their weaponisation.</p>
<p>To weaponise humans you need;</p>
<p>1. A general collectivist anti individual culture.  A culture of self sacrifice and acceptance that some will sacrifice themselves for others.</p>
<p>2.  Militant terrorist organisations prepared to use humans.  This from the Tamil Tigers to Palestinian to Iraq &#8216;anti-insurgents&#8217; happens where there are competive militant organisations and one decides to use increasingly miilitant tactics.</p>
<p>3.  Recruitment, vulnerable individuals are targeted.  Generally this starts with ideological zealots fanatics and the fully volunteering.</p>
<p>4.  Grooming this always is a process between seduction and initiation into a cult.  The individual whatever their original motivation must be bonded wedded to the cult the group and ego stripped and then redirected.</p>
<p>5.  The dedication ceremony.  always present usually totally misunderstood even when we get to see their matyrdom video afterwards.</p>
<p>This is the public commitment always in a group often by video it is a dedication almost a marriage where sacrifice is offered ritually sealed and spiritual reward offered.</p>
<p>This ceremony marks the no-going back (so that failed bombers will try again or kill themselves in shame).</p>
<p>6.  Publicity  To secure the dedication and the no-going back the perrsons name and perhaps video will be widely disseminated among the peer population so that the hero, the martyr can neveer hold their head up high if a failure.</p>
<p>During this period the dedicated suicide bomber may be traded or sold between groups, just like other weapons.</p>
<p>7.  Bomb target selection and delivery.  Like any missile or bomb it has to be delivered pay load dropped.  This is never under the control of the individual who becoming a mere weapon ceased to have any real autonomy.</p>
<p>To underscore the fact that the weaponised human suicide bomber is now not human in the minds of her handlers increasingly they are detonated by another.</p>
<p>The descent into the use of women children and the mentally and physically disabled was as inevitable as night follows day as was the arming of an additional detonator for remote explosion of the walking bomb.</p>
<p>I wish journalist would stop with the psychological motivations.  It actually in seeking a quasi legitimacy for their acts through individual trauma further dehumanises them and makes the monstrously evil weaponisers off the hook.</p>
<p>Those who make bombs out of humans in a human bomb factory have all of the greatest evil knowable;  Hannah Arrendt&#8217;s &#8216;banality of evil.</p>
<p>Name the human bomb makers don&#8217;t rationalise and excuse the human bombs through a tendentious psychodrama of the individual tortured beyond all imagination becoming the Gothic monster of a glib Penny Dreadful.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterParker</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/23/suicide-watch-15/comment-page-1/#comment-413261</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterParker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M*o*r*g*o*t*h, I was joking, of course.

Keep mockin&#039; &#039;em folks, and live long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M*o*r*g*o*t*h, I was joking, of course.</p>
<p>Keep mockin&#8217; &#8216;em folks, and live long.</p>
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