Comments on: Mote-Beam Scenario At New Statesman http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Sat, 26 May 2012 05:54:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alan Ji http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412796 Alan Ji Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:41:12 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412796 Alan A, November 20th 2009, 10:48 pm "The New Statesman has published a footling story" My copu of the Staggers arrives in Friday's post (usually) after I've left for work. This is unhelpful, since I used to read it during Friday lunch. This week's is in the car, unopened, with a view to reading, as usual, during Monday lunchtime. Some of us just can't keep pace with virtual reality. Alan A, November 20th 2009, 10:48 pm

“The New Statesman has published a footling story”

My copu of the Staggers arrives in Friday’s post (usually) after I’ve left for work. This is unhelpful, since I used to read it during Friday lunch.

This week’s is in the car, unopened, with a view to reading, as usual, during Monday lunchtime.

Some of us just can’t keep pace with virtual reality.

]]> By: Jonathan S http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412483 Jonathan S Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:59:37 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412483 Ronbo2571, you are correct. It's all to do with treating something the respect and sobriety it deserves, even many years after the event took place. It is hard for me to believe that anyone cannot see why this is offensive, and while I am not big fan of the New Statesman, and I also don't think that this EasyJet magazine mistake was the worst thing we Jews have to worry about (sadly), for me it was sad and shocking to see, and that's why I wrote to the airline when I saw it. We need to act when we see things like this, especially if we suspect the person / people who made the mistake didn't do so intentionally: it is those people who we can educate more easily, and they are the ones most likely to change and help us turn the tide of rising antisemitism. It is in fact the *lack* of intent or malice that makes it all the more worth saying something, I think. Ronbo2571, you are correct. It’s all to do with treating something the respect and sobriety it deserves, even many years after the event took place. It is hard for me to believe that anyone cannot see why this is offensive, and while I am not big fan of the New Statesman, and I also don’t think that this EasyJet magazine mistake was the worst thing we Jews have to worry about (sadly), for me it was sad and shocking to see, and that’s why I wrote to the airline when I saw it. We need to act when we see things like this, especially if we suspect the person / people who made the mistake didn’t do so intentionally: it is those people who we can educate more easily, and they are the ones most likely to change and help us turn the tide of rising antisemitism. It is in fact the *lack* of intent or malice that makes it all the more worth saying something, I think.

]]> By: Ronbo2571 http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412248 Ronbo2571 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:16:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412248 I saw the article 2 weeks ago on a flight to Majorca and thought it rather tasteless,a bit like eating fish and chips at the Menin Gate whilst 'Taps' was played. We all need to be reminded of the horrors endured by humanity down the ages and this article showed that many people are unaware of the suffering of Jewry and others during the war. Difficult to beleive but true I saw the article 2 weeks ago on a flight to Majorca and thought it rather tasteless,a bit like eating fish and chips at the Menin Gate whilst ‘Taps’ was played.
We all need to be reminded of the horrors endured by humanity down the ages and this article showed that many people are unaware of the suffering of Jewry and others during the war.
Difficult to beleive but true

]]> By: Gordon Bennet http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412218 Gordon Bennet Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:03:28 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412218 <i>Antisemitism surely does exist, but poor old HP is obsessed with Jews and Muslims like no other blog I know. It’s all about balance and perspective of which HP has none, thankfully. </i> You know where the door is. If not, all you need to do is ask. <i>Anyway, regarding NS: why not go to the top? The NS head honcho is a Labour supporting businessman of good repute, you know.</i> I refer you to Groucho Marx's comment, as quoted by Doc. You have it arse backwards. The head honcho first needs to earn this supposed 'good repute' by not allowing the NS to jump into bed with antisemites. Antisemitism surely does exist, but poor old HP is obsessed with Jews and Muslims like no other blog I know. It’s all about balance and perspective of which HP has none, thankfully.

You know where the door is. If not, all you need to do is ask.

Anyway, regarding NS: why not go to the top? The NS head honcho is a Labour supporting businessman of good repute, you know.

I refer you to Groucho Marx’s comment, as quoted by Doc. You have it arse backwards. The head honcho first needs to earn this supposed ‘good repute’ by not allowing the NS to jump into bed with antisemites.

]]> By: Cyrus http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412207 Cyrus Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:50:27 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412207 Imo the Holocaust Memorial story is a little bigger than a mote, but certainly "freebie magazine sends self-absorbed airheads to do fashion shoot" is hardly the scoop of the century. So: if you're Jewish the NS is your friend when it can earn some easy anti-racist brownie points. Just not when somebody actually hates you and wants to kill you. Imo the Holocaust Memorial story is a little bigger than a mote, but certainly “freebie magazine sends self-absorbed airheads to do fashion shoot” is hardly the scoop of the century. So: if you’re Jewish the NS is your friend when it can earn some easy anti-racist brownie points. Just not when somebody actually hates you and wants to kill you.

]]> By: marvin http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412189 marvin Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:42:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412189 Sure Owen. And when will the New Statesman be interviewing Nick Griffin? They won't? Why not? Sure Owen. And when will the New Statesman be interviewing Nick Griffin? They won’t? Why not?

]]> By: zkharya http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412188 zkharya Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:38:42 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412188 This was one of the images: http://www.easyjetinflight.com/images/2009/nov/05.jpg This was one of the images:

http://www.easyjetinflight.com/images/2009/nov/05.jpg

]]> By: Graham http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412152 Graham Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:07:31 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412152 <i>I don’t think anyone would care if a fashion shoot was in a graveyard or in front of a cenotaph.</i> Really? I don’t think anyone would care if a fashion shoot was in a graveyard or in front of a cenotaph.

Really?

]]> By: Israelinurse http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412146 Israelinurse Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:48:41 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412146 Fatloser - a Holocaust memorial, particularly one in the capital city of the country which perpetrated the most extensive attempt at genocide in modern times - is presumably designed to encourage people who visit it to reflect with sobriety upon the causes and circumstances under which such atrocities took place. If you are incapable of understanding that to reduce that site to the level of a theme park or adventure playground through the frivolity of badly conceived advertising could be offensive not only to those who still live with the traumas of the Holocaust's events, then I really do feel very sorry for you. Fatloser – a Holocaust memorial, particularly one in the capital city of the country which perpetrated the most extensive attempt at genocide in modern times – is presumably designed to encourage people who visit it to reflect with sobriety upon the causes and circumstances under which such atrocities took place.
If you are incapable of understanding that to reduce that site to the level of a theme park or adventure playground through the frivolity of badly conceived advertising could be offensive not only to those who still live with the traumas of the Holocaust’s events, then I really do feel very sorry for you.

]]> By: Fatloser http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/20/mote-beam-scenario-at-new-statesman/comment-page-1/#comment-412137 Fatloser Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:15:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=24200#comment-412137 Why is a fashion shoot at a Holocaust memorial offensive? I don't think anyone would care if a fashion shoot was in a graveyard or in front of a cenotaph. I do understand though that Easyjet is a commercial enterprise so artistic freedom is not necessarily the primary issue, as with the Ryanair schoolgirl "scandal". Why is a fashion shoot at a Holocaust memorial offensive? I don’t think anyone would care if a fashion shoot was in a graveyard or in front of a cenotaph.

I do understand though that Easyjet is a commercial enterprise so artistic freedom is not necessarily the primary issue, as with the Ryanair schoolgirl “scandal”.

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