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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Telegram</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-411484</link>
		<dc:creator>Telegram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, do we think this was as shameless and grotesque a hatchet job as the Dispatches programmes on Ken Livingstone? And if so, has Oborne completely destroyed his own journalistic credibility, as Martin Bright did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, do we think this was as shameless and grotesque a hatchet job as the Dispatches programmes on Ken Livingstone? And if so, has Oborne completely destroyed his own journalistic credibility, as Martin Bright did?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry D</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-411225</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fagin I&#039;ll vote for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fagin I&#8217;ll vote for you.</p>
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		<title>By: john g</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-411142</link>
		<dc:creator>john g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who stand to lose most out of Osborne&#039;s Dispatches proramme are  
the Palestinians. How come?

Out of a population of some 60 million, the progamme&#039;s audience  
(excluding worried Jews and rabid anti-Jews) would probably numbered  
around 13 viewers.

Of the Jewish audience, one or two or more will have been convinced  
that they and those dear to them should emigrate to Israel ASAP.

When will the Israel bashers (who are not the brightest lot - despite  
them thinking they are) realise that every unwarrented attack on  
Israel/Jews only ever adds to the flow of Jewish immigration to Israel?

Thank you Channel 4, Dispatches and Osborne.

Hang on a minute! Maybe that&#039;s how sophisticated the Israel lobby  
really is! Promote anti Israel rhetoric in the media so more Jews go  
there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who stand to lose most out of Osborne&#8217;s Dispatches proramme are<br />
the Palestinians. How come?</p>
<p>Out of a population of some 60 million, the progamme&#8217;s audience<br />
(excluding worried Jews and rabid anti-Jews) would probably numbered<br />
around 13 viewers.</p>
<p>Of the Jewish audience, one or two or more will have been convinced<br />
that they and those dear to them should emigrate to Israel ASAP.</p>
<p>When will the Israel bashers (who are not the brightest lot &#8211; despite<br />
them thinking they are) realise that every unwarrented attack on<br />
Israel/Jews only ever adds to the flow of Jewish immigration to Israel?</p>
<p>Thank you Channel 4, Dispatches and Osborne.</p>
<p>Hang on a minute! Maybe that&#8217;s how sophisticated the Israel lobby<br />
really is! Promote anti Israel rhetoric in the media so more Jews go<br />
there!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Friedman</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-411080</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see how our lobby is going to turn this around, come my Zionite friends go forth and decimate.!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see how our lobby is going to turn this around, come my Zionite friends go forth and decimate.!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-410761</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Lindsay:

You really are a total moonbat. The Saudis and other oil exporting nations from the region, and I&#039;d include the non-Arab government of Iran don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about the Palestinians and never have except for using them for political and economic purposes.

Regardless of being despised by &quot;Gulf Arabs&quot;, &quot;Leventines&quot;, Christian and Muslim, did consiously adopt the Arabic language and identity about a century or more ago, probably as much in protest of Ottoman rule as in protest of the influx of Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Lindsay:</p>
<p>You really are a total moonbat. The Saudis and other oil exporting nations from the region, and I&#8217;d include the non-Arab government of Iran don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about the Palestinians and never have except for using them for political and economic purposes.</p>
<p>Regardless of being despised by &#8220;Gulf Arabs&#8221;, &#8220;Leventines&#8221;, Christian and Muslim, did consiously adopt the Arabic language and identity about a century or more ago, probably as much in protest of Ottoman rule as in protest of the influx of Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-410725</link>
		<dc:creator>zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. Oil an energy:

From Haaretz:
&quot;an Israeli company has developed a method of generating electricy from road traffic. The system works by using generators implanted in the asphalt that create energy when cars drive over them. each generator produces 2,000 watts per hour which is stored in batteries alongside the road.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. Oil an energy:</p>
<p>From Haaretz:<br />
&#8220;an Israeli company has developed a method of generating electricy from road traffic. The system works by using generators implanted in the asphalt that create energy when cars drive over them. each generator produces 2,000 watts per hour which is stored in batteries alongside the road.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-410671</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it came down to money alone, I expect that the ostensible supporters of the Palestinians have much deeper pockets and significant control over a vital energy resource&quot;

I don&#039;t know where you get that one from. People from the Penninsula don&#039;t really regard Levantines as Arabs at all. They and they alone are the Arabs so far as they are concerned. They don&#039;t like even Sunnism as mostly practised there, never mind Shi&#039;ism, Christianity or Druzism. And they run with the Israelis joint candidates (Bush, Clinton) for President of the United States, whose success resulted in the war against Iraq in both the Israeli and the Gulf interests, and whose failure will mercifully ensure no war against Iran in both of those interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it came down to money alone, I expect that the ostensible supporters of the Palestinians have much deeper pockets and significant control over a vital energy resource&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you get that one from. People from the Penninsula don&#8217;t really regard Levantines as Arabs at all. They and they alone are the Arabs so far as they are concerned. They don&#8217;t like even Sunnism as mostly practised there, never mind Shi&#8217;ism, Christianity or Druzism. And they run with the Israelis joint candidates (Bush, Clinton) for President of the United States, whose success resulted in the war against Iraq in both the Israeli and the Gulf interests, and whose failure will mercifully ensure no war against Iran in both of those interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-410667</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. M:

If it came down to money alone, I expect that the ostensible supporters of the Palestinians have much deeper pockets and significant control over a vital energy resource.

Possibly, some of the support Israel receives is due to an understanding that it simply isn&#039;t the apartheid nation that a cabal operating in the UN Gen Assembly have succeeded in painting Israel to be.

It would be really nice, if, some day, Mr. Oborne had a similar look at the lobbying activities of the Arab League and the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the impact these organizations have on European politics and the UN General Assembly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. M:</p>
<p>If it came down to money alone, I expect that the ostensible supporters of the Palestinians have much deeper pockets and significant control over a vital energy resource.</p>
<p>Possibly, some of the support Israel receives is due to an understanding that it simply isn&#8217;t the apartheid nation that a cabal operating in the UN Gen Assembly have succeeded in painting Israel to be.</p>
<p>It would be really nice, if, some day, Mr. Oborne had a similar look at the lobbying activities of the Arab League and the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the impact these organizations have on European politics and the UN General Assembly.</p>
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		<title>By: Arfur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arfur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough Already!

I can sense the outrage at such a biased and skewed program but I&#039;m not sure that it has any consequences - except for the Islamist, Left, Guardian, Independent, Ch4 all having an early Christmas present.

Biased because it was a propoganda program against Israel, for teh Palestinians under the guise of a pro-Israel Lobby. You can address the idea of people supporting Israel and having wealth. However, to juxtapose it with the idea that such support stabs Palestinians in the head is plain propoganda and I believe the lack of balance can be challenged.

If only the Muslims and Arabs had some wealth and influence, eh GWB, GB and Obama? Is it a bowing contest in Saudi?

Like melanie Phillips articulated, its amazing the stranglehold the the Israeli Lobby has exercised over the the BBC, Guardian and Independent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough Already!</p>
<p>I can sense the outrage at such a biased and skewed program but I&#8217;m not sure that it has any consequences &#8211; except for the Islamist, Left, Guardian, Independent, Ch4 all having an early Christmas present.</p>
<p>Biased because it was a propoganda program against Israel, for teh Palestinians under the guise of a pro-Israel Lobby. You can address the idea of people supporting Israel and having wealth. However, to juxtapose it with the idea that such support stabs Palestinians in the head is plain propoganda and I believe the lack of balance can be challenged.</p>
<p>If only the Muslims and Arabs had some wealth and influence, eh GWB, GB and Obama? Is it a bowing contest in Saudi?</p>
<p>Like melanie Phillips articulated, its amazing the stranglehold the the Israeli Lobby has exercised over the the BBC, Guardian and Independent.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/16/comment-on-channel-4-dispatches-program/comment-page-4/#comment-410638</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if that were the reason why, RezaV! Come on!

Anyway, we need a ballot line system, so that voters would be able to indicate that they were voting for a given candidate specifically as endorsed by a smaller party or other campaigning organisation. Those organisations might be trade unions, co-operatives, peace and disarmament movements, civil liberties groups, or environmental campaigns. Or they might be fighting for Crown and Commonwealth, for national sovereignty, for the countryside, for traditional family life, for the Armed Forces, or against expensive and socially disruptive wars with no British strategic interest at stake. Among numerous other possibilities. Including both Conservative Friends of Israel and Labour Friends of Israel.

The number of votes by ballot line would be recorded and published separately. If a candidate owed either success or failure to a particular campaigning organisation, whether national or local, then he would know it. And so would everyone else. Including the voter, who may not be altogether comfortable voting for a candidate endorsed by those dedicated to the overriding interest of a foreign state in general and of that state&#039;s violently anti-British minority in particular. Nor for a party, such as the Tories now are, eighty per cent of whose sitting MPs are so endorsed, which is to say bought and paid for. How is that not treason?

The Tories have not always been the party of national sovereignty; in office, they never have been since the War. But they certainly see themselves as such now. Even before Blair, Labour&#039;s record as the party of peace was patchy in practice; the Tories&#039; was at least as good. But it certainly sees itself as such in principle. However, the truth is that if we want a body of parliamentarians who will moderate the whole process as much in the cause of national sovereignty as in those such as family values, and as much in the cause of peace as in those such as social justice, then we are going to have to contrive and confect those parliamentarians for ourselves. The existing parties are worse than a waste of time.

Peter Oborne for Watford, against the ghastly Richard Harrington? It&#039;s a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if that were the reason why, RezaV! Come on!</p>
<p>Anyway, we need a ballot line system, so that voters would be able to indicate that they were voting for a given candidate specifically as endorsed by a smaller party or other campaigning organisation. Those organisations might be trade unions, co-operatives, peace and disarmament movements, civil liberties groups, or environmental campaigns. Or they might be fighting for Crown and Commonwealth, for national sovereignty, for the countryside, for traditional family life, for the Armed Forces, or against expensive and socially disruptive wars with no British strategic interest at stake. Among numerous other possibilities. Including both Conservative Friends of Israel and Labour Friends of Israel.</p>
<p>The number of votes by ballot line would be recorded and published separately. If a candidate owed either success or failure to a particular campaigning organisation, whether national or local, then he would know it. And so would everyone else. Including the voter, who may not be altogether comfortable voting for a candidate endorsed by those dedicated to the overriding interest of a foreign state in general and of that state&#8217;s violently anti-British minority in particular. Nor for a party, such as the Tories now are, eighty per cent of whose sitting MPs are so endorsed, which is to say bought and paid for. How is that not treason?</p>
<p>The Tories have not always been the party of national sovereignty; in office, they never have been since the War. But they certainly see themselves as such now. Even before Blair, Labour&#8217;s record as the party of peace was patchy in practice; the Tories&#8217; was at least as good. But it certainly sees itself as such in principle. However, the truth is that if we want a body of parliamentarians who will moderate the whole process as much in the cause of national sovereignty as in those such as family values, and as much in the cause of peace as in those such as social justice, then we are going to have to contrive and confect those parliamentarians for ourselves. The existing parties are worse than a waste of time.</p>
<p>Peter Oborne for Watford, against the ghastly Richard Harrington? It&#8217;s a thought&#8230;</p>
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