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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-416138</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quite seriously graham, have you got some kind of frontal lobe lesion? if not, please stop proving my point for me so repeatedly - it&#039;s getting most tedious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quite seriously graham, have you got some kind of frontal lobe lesion? if not, please stop proving my point for me so repeatedly &#8211; it&#8217;s getting most tedious.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-411416</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you don&#039;t care if anyone else gets ad hominems thrown at them except your friend Laurie.

Thats settled then.

And you have far more in common with Lee John barnes than just stealing his insults don&#039;t you scumbag?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you don&#8217;t care if anyone else gets ad hominems thrown at them except your friend Laurie.</p>
<p>Thats settled then.</p>
<p>And you have far more in common with Lee John barnes than just stealing his insults don&#8217;t you scumbag?</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410848</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh ja(c)k(o) and graham, i don&#039;t really care if anyone else calls the charmer a paedophile on a regular basis, my point was that such ad hominem attack he indulges in towards laurie would no doubt induce male hysteria when aimed at him.

which it did. congratulations. (especially on graham&#039;s first comment, which was clearly so good he had to post it twice).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh ja(c)k(o) and graham, i don&#8217;t really care if anyone else calls the charmer a paedophile on a regular basis, my point was that such ad hominem attack he indulges in towards laurie would no doubt induce male hysteria when aimed at him.</p>
<p>which it did. congratulations. (especially on graham&#8217;s first comment, which was clearly so good he had to post it twice).</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410227</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well looks like a silly little girl demanded the right not to be called a silly little girl, stamped her feet a bit and ended up looking more like a silly little girl than ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well looks like a silly little girl demanded the right not to be called a silly little girl, stamped her feet a bit and ended up looking more like a silly little girl than ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Brownie</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410215</link>
		<dc:creator>Brownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, she&#039;s shown herself to be a real class act tonight. Falsely accusing me of using sexist language and then pulling the plug on the thread when she&#039;s shown to be lying. Except, she doesn&#039;t pull the plug entirely, allowing her lapdogs to defend the indefensible on her behalf whilst I appear to be &#039;banned&#039;.

Still, wouldn&#039;t want to be seen to &quot;bully&quot; her.

It&#039;s interesting: some people were attacked for invoking her age, lack of life experience, the fact she&#039;s (relatively) fresh out of Oxford, etc.., yet I wonder how true those accusations of &quot;bullying&quot; would have rung had she been a forty-something, blunt-speaking bloke from Yorkshire?

It seems her defenders were, at every turn, demanding we patronise her silly...her personal circumstnaces were off-limits so far as attack was concerned, but subliminally invoked at the drop of a hat in her defence.

Still, she called me &quot;darling&quot;. Swoon!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, she&#8217;s shown herself to be a real class act tonight. Falsely accusing me of using sexist language and then pulling the plug on the thread when she&#8217;s shown to be lying. Except, she doesn&#8217;t pull the plug entirely, allowing her lapdogs to defend the indefensible on her behalf whilst I appear to be &#8216;banned&#8217;.</p>
<p>Still, wouldn&#8217;t want to be seen to &#8220;bully&#8221; her.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting: some people were attacked for invoking her age, lack of life experience, the fact she&#8217;s (relatively) fresh out of Oxford, etc.., yet I wonder how true those accusations of &#8220;bullying&#8221; would have rung had she been a forty-something, blunt-speaking bloke from Yorkshire?</p>
<p>It seems her defenders were, at every turn, demanding we patronise her silly&#8230;her personal circumstnaces were off-limits so far as attack was concerned, but subliminally invoked at the drop of a hat in her defence.</p>
<p>Still, she called me &#8220;darling&#8221;. Swoon!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anat</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410204</link>
		<dc:creator>Anat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH MY GOD.  (Sorry, Morgoth.)  Another &quot;half-Jew.&quot;  It doesn&#039;t work that way, dearie.  You either are, or you aren&#039;t.  If you have to proclaim that you are &quot;half&quot; then you aren&#039;t at all in any practical sense.  Go peddle that garbage on the sorts of sites which insist that the Protocols are really, really, really true.  (And if you are &quot;Jewish&quot; due to a technicality, I still don&#039;t give a fuck.)

You have no time for Zionists?  Just what do you think &quot;Zionists&quot; are?  Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, period.  If you have no time for Zionists then you are aligning yourself with the worst of humanity, and even as young as you are you know that, even if you don&#039;t want to admit it.

Zionists are people who believe that Jewish people should be allowed to live anywhere in the world they like, and if they like to live in the original Jewish homeland, they have the right to do so.  Zionists are people who believe that Jews the same human rights as the rest of humanity, and who believe that Jews should be able to govern themselves in their own land.

If you don&#039;t have time for that, then you do belong on the racist, fascist and bigoted sites you apparently frequent.

And the difference between those sites  and Harry&#039;s Place is that bigots get their heads handed to them here, while bigotry, anti-Semitism, genocidal fantasies, world domination plots, racism, and misogyny are those sites&#039; raisons d&#039;etres.

Perhaps you are too worldly-wise to notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH MY GOD.  (Sorry, Morgoth.)  Another &#8220;half-Jew.&#8221;  It doesn&#8217;t work that way, dearie.  You either are, or you aren&#8217;t.  If you have to proclaim that you are &#8220;half&#8221; then you aren&#8217;t at all in any practical sense.  Go peddle that garbage on the sorts of sites which insist that the Protocols are really, really, really true.  (And if you are &#8220;Jewish&#8221; due to a technicality, I still don&#8217;t give a fuck.)</p>
<p>You have no time for Zionists?  Just what do you think &#8220;Zionists&#8221; are?  Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, period.  If you have no time for Zionists then you are aligning yourself with the worst of humanity, and even as young as you are you know that, even if you don&#8217;t want to admit it.</p>
<p>Zionists are people who believe that Jewish people should be allowed to live anywhere in the world they like, and if they like to live in the original Jewish homeland, they have the right to do so.  Zionists are people who believe that Jews the same human rights as the rest of humanity, and who believe that Jews should be able to govern themselves in their own land.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have time for that, then you do belong on the racist, fascist and bigoted sites you apparently frequent.</p>
<p>And the difference between those sites  and Harry&#8217;s Place is that bigots get their heads handed to them here, while bigotry, anti-Semitism, genocidal fantasies, world domination plots, racism, and misogyny are those sites&#8217; raisons d&#8217;etres.</p>
<p>Perhaps you are too worldly-wise to notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410164</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or rather, &lt;a href=&quot;http://pennyred.blogspot.com/2009/11/shut-up-little-girl-dont-you-know-grown.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or rather, <a href="http://pennyred.blogspot.com/2009/11/shut-up-little-girl-dont-you-know-grown.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410161</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who wishes to see the extent of Laurie Penny&#039;s willingness to debate honestly should take a look at the thread below her post &lt;a&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who wishes to see the extent of Laurie Penny&#8217;s willingness to debate honestly should take a look at the thread below her post <a>here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-5/#comment-410031</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair play to Laurie Penny for turning up and arguing her corner. And top marks for her comments on &#039;What&#039;s Left?&#039; (&quot;wise&quot;) and Galloway (&quot;fascist&quot;). 

Such fine judgement so young!

The only thing preventing a great big group hug and triples all round is the original lie about Harry&#039;s Place included in her Samosa article, which is what really riled me (and lots of others). Too lazy.

I&#039;ll repeat myself again in case it isn&#039;t clear to people yet. Harry&#039;s Place is not against Muslims engaging in politics, but it is very much against theocrats and their apologists. There is a huge and to a lot of people with long-term experience of anti-fascist work -very obvious -difference.

Anyway, everyone&#039;s a winner. Laurie gets a higher profile by attacking us and we all get to relive our days in the Student Union.

Unashamed Racist! Corpulant Fascist! Bourgeois lackey! etc etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair play to Laurie Penny for turning up and arguing her corner. And top marks for her comments on &#8216;What&#8217;s Left?&#8217; (&#8220;wise&#8221;) and Galloway (&#8220;fascist&#8221;). </p>
<p>Such fine judgement so young!</p>
<p>The only thing preventing a great big group hug and triples all round is the original lie about Harry&#8217;s Place included in her Samosa article, which is what really riled me (and lots of others). Too lazy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll repeat myself again in case it isn&#8217;t clear to people yet. Harry&#8217;s Place is not against Muslims engaging in politics, but it is very much against theocrats and their apologists. There is a huge and to a lot of people with long-term experience of anti-fascist work -very obvious -difference.</p>
<p>Anyway, everyone&#8217;s a winner. Laurie gets a higher profile by attacking us and we all get to relive our days in the Student Union.</p>
<p>Unashamed Racist! Corpulant Fascist! Bourgeois lackey! etc etc</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/15/penny-dreadful/comment-page-4/#comment-410024</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I have seen it all now. Douglas Clark (the Pickled Politics attack dog who sometimes slimes over here just to insult and misinterpret everyone) is on Laurie&#039;s blog complaining about bullying on HP!

I have not had as big a laugh since that beach ball appeared on the pitch and scored a goal at liverpool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I have seen it all now. Douglas Clark (the Pickled Politics attack dog who sometimes slimes over here just to insult and misinterpret everyone) is on Laurie&#8217;s blog complaining about bullying on HP!</p>
<p>I have not had as big a laugh since that beach ball appeared on the pitch and scored a goal at liverpool!</p>
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