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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: comstock</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-409720</link>
		<dc:creator>comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig “I spent a good few years as ‘ambassador’ drinking and whoring in Tashkent at the expense of HMG (aka UK taxpayers) and had such fun that I brought one back with me to the UK 

http://jamblichus.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/

They (here cum de judgeeee) still gave him a pay off virtually impossible for an average tax payer to save in a lifetimes of public service in the UK, unless they won a minor libel case!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig “I spent a good few years as ‘ambassador’ drinking and whoring in Tashkent at the expense of HMG (aka UK taxpayers) and had such fun that I brought one back with me to the UK </p>
<p><a href="http://jamblichus.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/" rel="nofollow">http://jamblichus.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/</a></p>
<p>They (here cum de judgeeee) still gave him a pay off virtually impossible for an average tax payer to save in a lifetimes of public service in the UK, unless they won a minor libel case!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-409205</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Exile - the phrase &#039;little slag&#039; seems to be something of a nervous tic with you - do you never think, or just not care, that your use of language is misogynistic?  I&#039;m sure you pride yourself on your left wing credentials, but your comments reminded me of a list of people to beware of compiled by a colleague of mine for an article in the Times Higher.  Here&#039;s the relevant pairing - sex obviously means &#039;biological sex&#039; here: 

- Any colleague who professes that class and race are more important than sex;

- Any colleague who professes that class and race are less important than sex;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Exile &#8211; the phrase &#8216;little slag&#8217; seems to be something of a nervous tic with you &#8211; do you never think, or just not care, that your use of language is misogynistic?  I&#8217;m sure you pride yourself on your left wing credentials, but your comments reminded me of a list of people to beware of compiled by a colleague of mine for an article in the Times Higher.  Here&#8217;s the relevant pairing &#8211; sex obviously means &#8216;biological sex&#8217; here: </p>
<p>- Any colleague who professes that class and race are more important than sex;</p>
<p>- Any colleague who professes that class and race are less important than sex;</p>
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		<title>By: Murray Mint</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-408628</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Mint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait before we all wade in to defend him 

is this Craig &quot;Zionism is Bullshit&quot; Murray 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt4S8AGPGfk

or is it 

Craig &quot;I spent a good few years as &#039;ambassador&#039; drinking and whoring in Tashkent at the expense of HMG (aka UK taxpayers) and had such fun that I brought one back with me to the UK 

http://jamblichus.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait before we all wade in to defend him </p>
<p>is this Craig &#8220;Zionism is Bullshit&#8221; Murray </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt4S8AGPGfk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt4S8AGPGfk</a></p>
<p>or is it </p>
<p>Craig &#8220;I spent a good few years as &#8216;ambassador&#8217; drinking and whoring in Tashkent at the expense of HMG (aka UK taxpayers) and had such fun that I brought one back with me to the UK </p>
<p><a href="http://jamblichus.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/" rel="nofollow">http://jamblichus.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-408620</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should try defending yourselves first, this site has clearly something to say about you all

http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/index.php/comment-and-analysis/society/160-harrys-race-to-the-bottom-the-bullies-who-drive-blogs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should try defending yourselves first, this site has clearly something to say about you all</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/index.php/comment-and-analysis/society/160-harrys-race-to-the-bottom-the-bullies-who-drive-blogs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesamosa.co.uk/index.php/comment-and-analysis/society/160-harrys-race-to-the-bottom-the-bullies-who-drive-blogs.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marko Attila Hoare</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-408590</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko Attila Hoare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;We at Harry’s Place will always stand with bloggers who are threatened by libel suits.&#039;

When I was threatened with a libel suit by Mettaculture on this very blog, for posting comments on this very blog, you certainly didn&#039;t stand with me. But then, those old universal principles do seem to find themselves bent just a teensy weensy bit when it&#039;s a question of old HP groupies, don&#039;t they ?

Still, I&#039;m with you on your general point. I can&#039;t think of any group of people more noble and charismatic, or whose services to humanity are greater, than the members of the blogging community. There is no group of people on this planet whose suffering is more real than bloggers threatened by letters from lawyers; no group to whom I&#039;d rather give my solidarity. I find the very thought of bloggers being sued for libel so upsetting that I can barely sleep at night; it really puts the suffering of victims of tyranny, genocide and terrorism in perspective.

Surely, time for Amnesty International to campaign on the issue ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;We at Harry’s Place will always stand with bloggers who are threatened by libel suits.&#8217;</p>
<p>When I was threatened with a libel suit by Mettaculture on this very blog, for posting comments on this very blog, you certainly didn&#8217;t stand with me. But then, those old universal principles do seem to find themselves bent just a teensy weensy bit when it&#8217;s a question of old HP groupies, don&#8217;t they ?</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m with you on your general point. I can&#8217;t think of any group of people more noble and charismatic, or whose services to humanity are greater, than the members of the blogging community. There is no group of people on this planet whose suffering is more real than bloggers threatened by letters from lawyers; no group to whom I&#8217;d rather give my solidarity. I find the very thought of bloggers being sued for libel so upsetting that I can barely sleep at night; it really puts the suffering of victims of tyranny, genocide and terrorism in perspective.</p>
<p>Surely, time for Amnesty International to campaign on the issue ?</p>
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		<title>By: Django</title>
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		<dc:creator>Django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;dubious neo-con outfit&#039;

Oooh get him! He&#039;s *so* last year, next he&#039;ll be calling them Zionazis.

Wanker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;dubious neo-con outfit&#8217;</p>
<p>Oooh get him! He&#8217;s *so* last year, next he&#8217;ll be calling them Zionazis.</p>
<p>Wanker.</p>
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		<title>By: Judge Wapner</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-408528</link>
		<dc:creator>Judge Wapner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far as I can see, given the existing controversies surrounding this dubious neo-con outfit, a collection of former extreme Islamists and spooks, they are incapable of further defamation.

That&#039;s defence enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far as I can see, given the existing controversies surrounding this dubious neo-con outfit, a collection of former extreme Islamists and spooks, they are incapable of further defamation.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s defence enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Exile</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/12/defend-craig-murray/comment-page-1/#comment-408448</link>
		<dc:creator>Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never gloated at the news of a Cuban blogger being done over for the simple reason that I never believed that that little slag had been, that&#039;s the difference. Obvious, if you take the trouble to read what I wrote, and don&#039;t have problems with the old reading comprehension.

Tell you what, spaz, if the little slag ever goes off-line, then I will start supporting it, OK? Just like I am with Uhuru Guru, another conservative.

All very consistent, to anyone who can read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never gloated at the news of a Cuban blogger being done over for the simple reason that I never believed that that little slag had been, that&#8217;s the difference. Obvious, if you take the trouble to read what I wrote, and don&#8217;t have problems with the old reading comprehension.</p>
<p>Tell you what, spaz, if the little slag ever goes off-line, then I will start supporting it, OK? Just like I am with Uhuru Guru, another conservative.</p>
<p>All very consistent, to anyone who can read.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix (Italy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix (Italy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote the following comment to Craig Muuray&#039;s site (it hasn&#039;t been deleted):

I have been following the Quilliam Foundation&#039;s site and their activities for years and you have got them entirely wrong. Several of the commenters who insult them admit to knowing nothing about them. I count them among the noblest people now living in Britain, which is precisely why they are disliked. (I am not an associate of theirs).

I disagree with the action they have taken against Craig &amp; hope they let it drop. I can&#039;t take the feigned phone call seriously. I have done it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote the following comment to Craig Muuray&#8217;s site (it hasn&#8217;t been deleted):</p>
<p>I have been following the Quilliam Foundation&#8217;s site and their activities for years and you have got them entirely wrong. Several of the commenters who insult them admit to knowing nothing about them. I count them among the noblest people now living in Britain, which is precisely why they are disliked. (I am not an associate of theirs).</p>
<p>I disagree with the action they have taken against Craig &amp; hope they let it drop. I can&#8217;t take the feigned phone call seriously. I have done it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: amie</title>
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		<dc:creator>amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take an admirable example from Anthony Julius who spoke on Desert Islands discs (as mentioned on post above) this morning about a newspaper comment made about him after the Diana divorce settlement. 

The comment was to the effect that Julius, owing to being a Jew, had conducted the settlement in a dishonest and dishonorable way, being, as Jews are, a stranger to notions of justice and fair play. As a result of complaints made by others to the paper, the paper&#039;s legal officer contacted Julius and asked him what he wanted the paper to do. Julius replied that this matter redounded to the paper&#039;s discredit, not Julius&#039; and it was up to the paper to decide what it wanted to do. The paper published a retraction and that was the end of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take an admirable example from Anthony Julius who spoke on Desert Islands discs (as mentioned on post above) this morning about a newspaper comment made about him after the Diana divorce settlement. </p>
<p>The comment was to the effect that Julius, owing to being a Jew, had conducted the settlement in a dishonest and dishonorable way, being, as Jews are, a stranger to notions of justice and fair play. As a result of complaints made by others to the paper, the paper&#8217;s legal officer contacted Julius and asked him what he wanted the paper to do. Julius replied that this matter redounded to the paper&#8217;s discredit, not Julius&#8217; and it was up to the paper to decide what it wanted to do. The paper published a retraction and that was the end of it.</p>
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