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	<title>Comments on: The Christisons and the Lib Dems</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: M*o*r*g*o*t*h</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408272</link>
		<dc:creator>M*o*r*g*o*t*h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troll? haha. &lt;b&gt;You&lt;/b&gt; are the one excusing rank anti-semitism and an organisation that tolerates and encourages said rank anti-semitism in its ranks, Abu Faris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troll? haha. <b>You</b> are the one excusing rank anti-semitism and an organisation that tolerates and encourages said rank anti-semitism in its ranks, Abu Faris.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, thanks for those. I remember that it was the number 1 book on Israel the day after your review.

On a seperate subject am I right in thinking you&#039;re an economist by trade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, thanks for those. I remember that it was the number 1 book on Israel the day after your review.</p>
<p>On a seperate subject am I right in thinking you&#8217;re an economist by trade?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408127</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White&#039;s book = 86,172 in Amazon UK sales and 94,792 in Amazon US sales

Yeah right Jon, people are falling over themselves to buy it ....not ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White&#8217;s book = 86,172 in Amazon UK sales and 94,792 in Amazon US sales</p>
<p>Yeah right Jon, people are falling over themselves to buy it &#8230;.not &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408114</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha. Sunlight or Disinfectant? You hate all Pluto books or just Ben and K&amp;B&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha. Sunlight or Disinfectant? You hate all Pluto books or just Ben and K&amp;B&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408113</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well jon &#039;sunlight is the best form of disinfectant&#039; and your books certainly need that, don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well jon &#8217;sunlight is the best form of disinfectant&#8217; and your books certainly need that, don&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408107</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, Jonathan you&#039;re a wonder. 

Its great that you work so tirelessly to boost the profile of Pluto authors and help people to put across dissenting viewpoints.

Without a doubt you have helped to raise Ben White&#039;s (for example) international profile. I hear that in events in Canada people were reading out your review and then buying the book to see if what you wrote was true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, Jonathan you&#8217;re a wonder. </p>
<p>Its great that you work so tirelessly to boost the profile of Pluto authors and help people to put across dissenting viewpoints.</p>
<p>Without a doubt you have helped to raise Ben White&#8217;s (for example) international profile. I hear that in events in Canada people were reading out your review and then buying the book to see if what you wrote was true.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408102</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon

I would rather swallow razor blades than work for Pluto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon</p>
<p>I would rather swallow razor blades than work for Pluto</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Faris</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408091</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Faris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you are right, Greg. However, I am glad that you can now see the point I was making. Thanks.

How very constructive, Gordon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you are right, Greg. However, I am glad that you can now see the point I was making. Thanks.</p>
<p>How very constructive, Gordon.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Bennet</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/11/the-christisons-and-the-lib-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-408067</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Bennet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus the pitiful Abu Faris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus the pitiful Abu Faris.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu, the only thing that you have made clear is that you believe there are a variety of views within the organisations in question, and as such no subset of views should be used to characterise the organisations as a whole.

Given that we&#039;re talking about racism and not, say, The X Factor you are talking 100% rubbish.  There are some subjects about which a range of views is entirely acceptable (regardless of how correct they might be), say, the size of the welfare state, or the extent of regulation in the City.  However some views are so abhorrent that they poison the well for the whole organisation.  Foaming-mouthed anti-Semitism as pushed by Tonge and the Christisons is just that.  If a member of either the LibDems or Amnesty were to imply there might be something to the research which says blacks are genetically less intelligent than whites they&#039;d be toast then history within 2 hours.  However, pure undiluted anti-Semitism (which, make no mistake, talk of Jewish cabals, evil Zionists etc. most certainly is) goes by with ne&#039;er a slap on the wrist (and in AI&#039;s case, actively promoted).  Without rebuttal or censure, outbursts of bigotry are implicitly approved by the organisation.

Should the LD and AI be disbanded?  If they don&#039;t throw out their bigots, then yes, absolutely, the sooner the better and no-one except a few white middle-class students at some third rate universities is going to miss them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu, the only thing that you have made clear is that you believe there are a variety of views within the organisations in question, and as such no subset of views should be used to characterise the organisations as a whole.</p>
<p>Given that we&#8217;re talking about racism and not, say, The X Factor you are talking 100% rubbish.  There are some subjects about which a range of views is entirely acceptable (regardless of how correct they might be), say, the size of the welfare state, or the extent of regulation in the City.  However some views are so abhorrent that they poison the well for the whole organisation.  Foaming-mouthed anti-Semitism as pushed by Tonge and the Christisons is just that.  If a member of either the LibDems or Amnesty were to imply there might be something to the research which says blacks are genetically less intelligent than whites they&#8217;d be toast then history within 2 hours.  However, pure undiluted anti-Semitism (which, make no mistake, talk of Jewish cabals, evil Zionists etc. most certainly is) goes by with ne&#8217;er a slap on the wrist (and in AI&#8217;s case, actively promoted).  Without rebuttal or censure, outbursts of bigotry are implicitly approved by the organisation.</p>
<p>Should the LD and AI be disbanded?  If they don&#8217;t throw out their bigots, then yes, absolutely, the sooner the better and no-one except a few white middle-class students at some third rate universities is going to miss them.</p>
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