We have now had two generations of such intellectually stunted graduates, who now populate the Foreign Office, and advise our Lawyers, Police and Welfare services. This may be a Stealth Jihad, but it is still Jihad.

Banning the quran? Repatriating muslim foreigners? Interning muslim citizens and restricting their civil rights? Shutting down mosques?

Come on and spell out what you mean by the phrase “deislamification”? I am all for speaking out clearly against the islamist agenda, even actively fighting it, as much as any other theocratic impulse (say, hindu vigilantes attacking women drinkers or catholic bishops meddling with healthcare legislation and narrowing women’s abortion rights as happened recently in the US or other christian fuckwits playing fast and loose with gay rights in my neck of the woods). But absolutely no more than that. No truck with forced deislamification or dechristianising or or de-whatever.

Jihad is a call to fight, not to plot. And one of the prime motivators of jihadis is the principle of al-wala’ wa’l-bara’, “Loving and Hating (for the sake of Allah)”. Hating, detesting, despising the kafirs is not only normal, but all-consumingly so.

As usual for this blog, Islam is being given a free pass yet again.

I agree that many people are fanatical by temperament, no matter what religion they are brought up in; and that others are peaceful and tolerant, no matter the intrinsic fanaticism of the religion they are brought up in. But for many more, religious indoctrination does make the difference: good people are made to do evil because they are taught that this particular evil is the will of God. To repeat a comparison I’ve made before: some people get drunk and still drive home safely; others are teetotallers and yet are a danger on the road; but for most people, alcohol does make the difference between driving safely and causing an accident. Therefore, most acts of Islamic fanaticism [...] are the result of Islamic indoctrination, committed by people who would never have done so if they or their ancestors had not been islamized.

Deislamification. Now. It’s the only answer.

Good article here:-

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/08/fort-hood-nidal-malik-hasan-muslims-opinions-columnists-tunku-varadarajan.html

“Going postal” is a piquant American phrase that describes the phenomenon of violent rage in which a worker–archetypically a postal worker–”snaps” and guns down his colleagues.

As the enormity of the actions of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan sinks in, we must ask whether we are confronting a new phenomenon of violent rage, one we might dub–disconcertingly–”Going Muslim.” This phrase would describe the turn of events where a seemingly integrated Muslim-American–a friendly donut vendor in New York, say, or an officer in the U.S. Army at Fort Hood–discards his apparent integration into American society and elects to vindicate his religion in an act of messianic violence against his fellow Americans. This would appear to be what happened in the case of Maj. Hasan.

1-Immigration. Do you really believe it’s part of a Wahabi master plan. I would have thought it’s the movement of people from shitholes to nice western jobs where they can live more decently. True, a small percentage turn their backs on that, but for the most part, that’s why people all over the world, not just Muslims, immigrate in droves to the West.
2-Suborning western intellectuals, lefties etc. No. Wahabism had nothing to do with that. It was the love affair that parts of the west had and still has for Marxism, combined with an absurd anti-american, anti-western worldview, and the Wahabis have exploited their good fortune. No doubt it pains some Marxists to be allied with such Islamic reactionaries, but hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, right. It’s pathetic, but it isn’t Muslim, islamist or wahabi inspired. They probably can’t believe how lucky they are.

As for the rest of your theory, I think it does have some merit. I don’t think the west is as helpless as you and some other posters here think, though. if and when the going gets tougher, i’m sure we’ll rise to the occasion and take the medievalists down.

Yes we are in the midst of an islamist explosion. it’s well known it’s been on the news, i’ve been visiting harry’s for over a year. my position on islamism is well known. but what we have here is a nutter who goes off, and this time is an islamist nutter. When I see a pattern of, say, three or four islamist nutters going off on a murder spree, maybe i’ll take what you say more seriously. Until then, i fully expect the next killing spree to be by a disgruntled postie, disillusioned college student, depressed emo high school student, unhappy husband etc etc etc.

I am not politically correct and i don’t fear being branded a racist. I do, however, like to use my brain and not attribute everything wrong in this world to Islam, even when an islamic person does it. I see you now choose to blame people who think like me for the state of the world, along with the Islamists. Why don’t you call me an anti-semite too… that would fit YOUR pattern. It’s too bad we can’t all think exactly like you, then the world would surely be a better place.
I, on the other hand, don’t blame you and folks who think like you for the woes of the world. I just think your posts are, for the most part, idiotic, and, for lack of a better word, assholic.

Is THAT clear enough for YOU?

And David All: Thank you for kindly informing me of Davep’s intent. Of course I knew he was being sarcastic. It’s just that if you actually read what he so sarcastically wrote, it’s clear he misunderstood and then misrepresented the intent of my original comment, and makes out that since i don’t think hasan is a terrorist, therefore I don’t think the 9/11 gang were terrorists. He’s dead wrong, and plainly thick. I think i get that.

Like passing these out with those Qur’ans, right?

Because in case you are living in an igloo, 1000 km from the Halley research station, with nothing but a candle, a tin opener and a 186000 tins of beans, the planet happens to be in the midst of an Islamic explosion of maniacal insanity not seen since the 7th century.

That’s “Why this particular nutcase” should not be simply put down as just another nutcase, I’m sorry that in your rush to put this down as just another American nutcase, you are failing to see my point, it appears that this guy was a muslim fanatic, a muslim fanatic that people were to afraid to confront because of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and peoples fear of being branded racists.

And just to emphasize my thinking on this sorry state of affairs, I BLAME PEOPLE SUCH AS YOU for this suicidally ridiculous state of affairs that the “West” is currently bound by.

IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU.