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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Alec M</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404871</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; different law I know, but it still winds me up how people took the piss out of this guy’s claim. Once you start protecting religious beliefs, the Chief Jedi Chap as a point.

Don&#039;t see why.  This is the same idiot who was attacked by a drunk calling himself Darth Vader, and even he didn&#039;t claim to have been the victim of sectarian abuse.

http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/the-only-good-jedi-is-a-dead-jedi/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; different law I know, but it still winds me up how people took the piss out of this guy’s claim. Once you start protecting religious beliefs, the Chief Jedi Chap as a point.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t see why.  This is the same idiot who was attacked by a drunk calling himself Darth Vader, and even he didn&#8217;t claim to have been the victim of sectarian abuse.</p>
<p><a href="http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/the-only-good-jedi-is-a-dead-jedi/" rel="nofollow">http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/the-only-good-jedi-is-a-dead-jedi/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mam Tor</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404807</link>
		<dc:creator>Mam Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett

you linked chaos to this particular ruling, when it is the law itself we need to look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett</p>
<p>you linked chaos to this particular ruling, when it is the law itself we need to look at.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404797</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mam Tor. Perhaps you need to re-read what I wrote. I am in favour of NO beliefs having protection. I am in favour of the *scrapping* of legal protection for religious beliefs, not the elevation of all other beliefs to the same status as religious one. That was kinda my point. I doubt very much that this is the point being made by the Christian Legal Centre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mam Tor. Perhaps you need to re-read what I wrote. I am in favour of NO beliefs having protection. I am in favour of the *scrapping* of legal protection for religious beliefs, not the elevation of all other beliefs to the same status as religious one. That was kinda my point. I doubt very much that this is the point being made by the Christian Legal Centre.</p>
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		<title>By: gtm</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404785</link>
		<dc:creator>gtm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then the pretty fairies came and told GTM that Gordon Brown is a deeply honest and frugal man, and that that nice Mr Griffin is a sweet little pussycat with many, many black and jewish friends dear to his heart.

I&#039;ll concede they&#039;re not perfect but I&#039;d take an English judge over an american, spanish or italian one any day. Gordon Brown not honest &amp; frugal??? That I didn&#039;t know - thanks for bringing me up to speed on that one. I knew about what a rotter Griffin is though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then the pretty fairies came and told GTM that Gordon Brown is a deeply honest and frugal man, and that that nice Mr Griffin is a sweet little pussycat with many, many black and jewish friends dear to his heart.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll concede they&#8217;re not perfect but I&#8217;d take an English judge over an american, spanish or italian one any day. Gordon Brown not honest &amp; frugal??? That I didn&#8217;t know &#8211; thanks for bringing me up to speed on that one. I knew about what a rotter Griffin is though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon d</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There you go, it was one of the IT dept who couriered the blackberry, nicholson was the sustainability manager  http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/tim-nicholson-a-green-martyr-1648388.html
Not that I&#039;ve any experience of industrial tribunrals but sounds like Nicholson&#039;d have the makings of a constructive dismissal case, he was hired by the company to do a specific job that he was prevented from doing by executives. 
Also I&#039;d bet that they asked for volunteers to fly the pda to ireland, you can&#039;t just order someone on a 9-5 contract to drop everything and start jetting round europe at the drop of a hat or be fired - that&#039;d be unreasonable, What if they had to get the kids or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go, it was one of the IT dept who couriered the blackberry, nicholson was the sustainability manager  <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/tim-nicholson-a-green-martyr-1648388.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/tim-nicholson-a-green-martyr-1648388.html</a><br />
Not that I&#8217;ve any experience of industrial tribunrals but sounds like Nicholson&#8217;d have the makings of a constructive dismissal case, he was hired by the company to do a specific job that he was prevented from doing by executives.<br />
Also I&#8217;d bet that they asked for volunteers to fly the pda to ireland, you can&#8217;t just order someone on a 9-5 contract to drop everything and start jetting round europe at the drop of a hat or be fired &#8211; that&#8217;d be unreasonable, What if they had to get the kids or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Mam Tor</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404764</link>
		<dc:creator>Mam Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the Christian Legal Centre argues the same point, you&#039;re probably doing something wrong!

http://www.inspiremagazine.org.uk/news.aspx?action=view&amp;id=3895</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Christian Legal Centre argues the same point, you&#8217;re probably doing something wrong!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inspiremagazine.org.uk/news.aspx?action=view&amp;id=3895" rel="nofollow">http://www.inspiremagazine.org.uk/news.aspx?action=view&amp;id=3895</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mam Tor</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404762</link>
		<dc:creator>Mam Tor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett

I mean the protection of religious beliefs, if it to be inclusive, includes non-religious beliefs, and this case demonstrates the hopeless task of creating pluralistic legislation.

It is the pluralistic protect that leads to chaos, not this (minor) judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett</p>
<p>I mean the protection of religious beliefs, if it to be inclusive, includes non-religious beliefs, and this case demonstrates the hopeless task of creating pluralistic legislation.</p>
<p>It is the pluralistic protect that leads to chaos, not this (minor) judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anaximanders other sandal</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404756</link>
		<dc:creator>Anaximanders other sandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressiveness.

What did people think was going to happen when this &quot;progress&quot; ideology gained the upper hand, a star trek type &#039;federation&#039;, a planet without money or hunger or hatred, a planet were everyone would sit and debate the genius and beauty of socialism? 

So all is permissible as long as it truly believed. 

Well done the Left, another big tick in lunacy column of your little red book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressiveness.</p>
<p>What did people think was going to happen when this &#8220;progress&#8221; ideology gained the upper hand, a star trek type &#8216;federation&#8217;, a planet without money or hunger or hatred, a planet were everyone would sit and debate the genius and beauty of socialism? </p>
<p>So all is permissible as long as it truly believed. </p>
<p>Well done the Left, another big tick in lunacy column of your little red book.</p>
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		<title>By: Larkers</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404754</link>
		<dc:creator>Larkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a rotten test case, but clearly as many have commented above, an impossible situation. Tolerance is not at issue; this enshrines the quixotic, elevates mere prejudice to the level of argument. How is this going to operate? Can conscience (I need not bother you with the details of how this has been formed) be equivalent with good governance for all? It seems by this report we now have laws which will act as an opt out clause for whim or petulance. Whatever happened to &#039;vexatious&#039; law suits, chucked out at the door of the court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a rotten test case, but clearly as many have commented above, an impossible situation. Tolerance is not at issue; this enshrines the quixotic, elevates mere prejudice to the level of argument. How is this going to operate? Can conscience (I need not bother you with the details of how this has been formed) be equivalent with good governance for all? It seems by this report we now have laws which will act as an opt out clause for whim or petulance. Whatever happened to &#8216;vexatious&#8217; law suits, chucked out at the door of the court?</p>
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		<title>By: British not Racist</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/11/03/a-legal-step-towards-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-404747</link>
		<dc:creator>British not Racist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the contemptible &quot;Human Rights&quot; legislation on,
Nu Labour is the party of lawyers.
Religious feelings are merely political beliefs 
dressed up with supernatural authority.

Now, the phony faith of man made global warming is
given religious status because some fool strongly
believes in it.

Well, I strongly believe the opposite, 
I also feel that a certain imported ideology is an
existential threat to our Western values.
As its supporters also believe.
Which law is going to protect my feelings ?

Note: Cure for unemployment. Train tens of
thousands of lawyers for such cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the contemptible &#8220;Human Rights&#8221; legislation on,<br />
Nu Labour is the party of lawyers.<br />
Religious feelings are merely political beliefs<br />
dressed up with supernatural authority.</p>
<p>Now, the phony faith of man made global warming is<br />
given religious status because some fool strongly<br />
believes in it.</p>
<p>Well, I strongly believe the opposite,<br />
I also feel that a certain imported ideology is an<br />
existential threat to our Western values.<br />
As its supporters also believe.<br />
Which law is going to protect my feelings ?</p>
<p>Note: Cure for unemployment. Train tens of<br />
thousands of lawyers for such cases.</p>
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