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		<title>By: Karl Pfeifer</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/29/tories-and-extremists-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-403335</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Pfeifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David please correct, my name is Karl Pfeifer
Kind regards
Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David please correct, my name is Karl Pfeifer<br />
Kind regards<br />
Karl</p>
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		<title>By: DSD</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/29/tories-and-extremists-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-402904</link>
		<dc:creator>DSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That both would excuse Kaminski doesn’t surprise me and doesn’t encourage great faith in their judgement on this issue&quot;

Well quite - how dare the Israeli government decide not to cooperate in tarring and feathering a man once the Left has deemed him irrevocably racist? Because obviously a bunch of Leftie intellectuals are in a much better position to judge anti-semitism than the government of the world&#039;s only Jewish state.

Kaminski was seventeen years old when he was in the NOP. If that condemns him to eternal opprobrium then you can all stuff your &#039;dont tar all Palestinians with the same brush&#039; meme where the sun doesn&#039;t shine, because by those lights they are an entirely lost people who should be caged away from the rest of the world forever. Or are you only an irrevocable anti-semite if you&#039;re a *white* kid who once joined an anti-Jewish organisation?

Kaminski simply said that he doesnt feel a moral equivalence can or should be drawn between organised mass murder on the grand scale as government policy and the single action of a group of bandits whom he happens to share nationality with. That&#039;s it. But despite the generally enlightened views on this site, it seems a depressing number of you just can&#039;t help yourselves when someone alleges teh racism. You just have to go all Salem on the target, and that&#039;s profoundly dissappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That both would excuse Kaminski doesn’t surprise me and doesn’t encourage great faith in their judgement on this issue&#8221;</p>
<p>Well quite &#8211; how dare the Israeli government decide not to cooperate in tarring and feathering a man once the Left has deemed him irrevocably racist? Because obviously a bunch of Leftie intellectuals are in a much better position to judge anti-semitism than the government of the world&#8217;s only Jewish state.</p>
<p>Kaminski was seventeen years old when he was in the NOP. If that condemns him to eternal opprobrium then you can all stuff your &#8216;dont tar all Palestinians with the same brush&#8217; meme where the sun doesn&#8217;t shine, because by those lights they are an entirely lost people who should be caged away from the rest of the world forever. Or are you only an irrevocable anti-semite if you&#8217;re a *white* kid who once joined an anti-Jewish organisation?</p>
<p>Kaminski simply said that he doesnt feel a moral equivalence can or should be drawn between organised mass murder on the grand scale as government policy and the single action of a group of bandits whom he happens to share nationality with. That&#8217;s it. But despite the generally enlightened views on this site, it seems a depressing number of you just can&#8217;t help yourselves when someone alleges teh racism. You just have to go all Salem on the target, and that&#8217;s profoundly dissappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: DSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, absolutely what Reg said.</description>
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		<title>By: Reg Varney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reg Varney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;with 3 white babies in nappies&lt;/em&gt;

Tosser!  Only someone completely and utterly obsessed with skin melanin would make such a gigantic leap.  My advice: travel, learn a language, grow up...or emigrate and leave the vast majority of Britons, who couldn&#039;t give a stuff about somebody&#039;s colour, in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>with 3 white babies in nappies</em></p>
<p>Tosser!  Only someone completely and utterly obsessed with skin melanin would make such a gigantic leap.  My advice: travel, learn a language, grow up&#8230;or emigrate and leave the vast majority of Britons, who couldn&#8217;t give a stuff about somebody&#8217;s colour, in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the ones so enthusiastic for the EU, which subjects us all to the legislative will of Stalinists, Trotskyists, neo-Fascists, neo-Nazis, Eastern European kleptomaniacs and other neocon crazies, and people who believe the Provisional Army Council to be the sovereign body throughout Ireland. Soon to be joined by Turkish Islamists, Turkish ultra-nationalists, and Kurdish Marxist terrorists. The problem is the EU itself.

It is the Czech climate change hysteria opponents, the Polish moral and social conservatives, and the Latvians who remember being sold to Stalin, who have the raw deal here, being required to associate with Cameron’s Tories. But why are some Nazi roots acceptable, yet others not?‏ It may exist in German, but I have never come across in English a full study of the SS Divisions of various nationalities after they had gone home. Yet the movements and subcultures that they became turn up an awful lot. And, except in Latvia, we love them.

We loved Alija Izetbegovic, SS recruitment sergeant turned Wahhabi rabble-rouser, and founder of one of the two entities to which the terms “Islamofascist” and “failed state” are both properly applicable. We love the other Islamofascist failed state, created by the Kosovo “Liberation” Army of heroin-trafficking pimps whose black shirts defer to their fathers and grandfathers. We love the pro-war Danish People’s Party: the coalition of the willing, no matter who the willing may be. We love those advocating Flemish secession, now that that would be in the service of global capital. Ahmadinejad’s oblique, if any, Holocaust denial causes uproar, yet that of Croatia’s Franjo Tudjman – historically, geographically, ideologically and sartorially far closer to the events – did not.

No one ever mentions that the Irish Republic’s Eurofederalist, big business-loving Fine Gael goes back to the Blueshirts, admittedly far from the worst, with their advocacy of Commonwealth membership and their main focus on preventing in Spain a Soviet satellite state which, like the Soviet Union, would have been a de facto member of the Axis at the start of the War. But for some reason, the Latvian Fatherland and Freedom Party is a problem.

Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the ones so enthusiastic for the EU, which subjects us all to the legislative will of Stalinists, Trotskyists, neo-Fascists, neo-Nazis, Eastern European kleptomaniacs and other neocon crazies, and people who believe the Provisional Army Council to be the sovereign body throughout Ireland. Soon to be joined by Turkish Islamists, Turkish ultra-nationalists, and Kurdish Marxist terrorists. The problem is the EU itself.</p>
<p>It is the Czech climate change hysteria opponents, the Polish moral and social conservatives, and the Latvians who remember being sold to Stalin, who have the raw deal here, being required to associate with Cameron’s Tories. But why are some Nazi roots acceptable, yet others not?‏ It may exist in German, but I have never come across in English a full study of the SS Divisions of various nationalities after they had gone home. Yet the movements and subcultures that they became turn up an awful lot. And, except in Latvia, we love them.</p>
<p>We loved Alija Izetbegovic, SS recruitment sergeant turned Wahhabi rabble-rouser, and founder of one of the two entities to which the terms “Islamofascist” and “failed state” are both properly applicable. We love the other Islamofascist failed state, created by the Kosovo “Liberation” Army of heroin-trafficking pimps whose black shirts defer to their fathers and grandfathers. We love the pro-war Danish People’s Party: the coalition of the willing, no matter who the willing may be. We love those advocating Flemish secession, now that that would be in the service of global capital. Ahmadinejad’s oblique, if any, Holocaust denial causes uproar, yet that of Croatia’s Franjo Tudjman – historically, geographically, ideologically and sartorially far closer to the events – did not.</p>
<p>No one ever mentions that the Irish Republic’s Eurofederalist, big business-loving Fine Gael goes back to the Blueshirts, admittedly far from the worst, with their advocacy of Commonwealth membership and their main focus on preventing in Spain a Soviet satellite state which, like the Soviet Union, would have been a de facto member of the Axis at the start of the War. But for some reason, the Latvian Fatherland and Freedom Party is a problem.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave

It&#039;s this feller. Although to be fair it appears to be Third Way, rather than the full-on  Holland and Griffin nastiness.

http://www.newstatesman.com/200406140013</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this feller. Although to be fair it appears to be Third Way, rather than the full-on  Holland and Griffin nastiness.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200406140013" rel="nofollow">http://www.newstatesman.com/200406140013</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems anti-semitism is not restricted to the Conservative Party.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5grTwhDYst--dWwa9YVi4TOyDNokAD9BKQI6O0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems anti-semitism is not restricted to the Conservative Party.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5grTwhDYst--dWwa9YVi4TOyDNokAD9BKQI6O0" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5grTwhDYst&#8211;dWwa9YVi4TOyDNokAD9BKQI6O0</a></p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Wasn’t one of its manifesto’s authors wrapped up in the NF Political Soldiers bunch?&quot;

Were they? Not heard that. I&#039;d be interested to hear more though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Wasn’t one of its manifesto’s authors wrapped up in the NF Political Soldiers bunch?&#8221;</p>
<p>Were they? Not heard that. I&#8217;d be interested to hear more though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re UKIP. Wasn&#039;t one of its manifesto&#039;s authors wrapped up in the NF Political Soldiers bunch? 

Farage has told the BNP to take a hike which was doubtless done entirely out of political principle. Bear in mind though, if the UK was to get a hard-right demagogue with a good shot of gaining power, he/she would be wise enough not have the Swastika armbands, Italian bombers or Klansmen in their closet that Griffin does. Pim Fortuyn anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re UKIP. Wasn&#8217;t one of its manifesto&#8217;s authors wrapped up in the NF Political Soldiers bunch? </p>
<p>Farage has told the BNP to take a hike which was doubtless done entirely out of political principle. Bear in mind though, if the UK was to get a hard-right demagogue with a good shot of gaining power, he/she would be wise enough not have the Swastika armbands, Italian bombers or Klansmen in their closet that Griffin does. Pim Fortuyn anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stoddart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Stoddart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The increasingly hapless Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs  admirably demonstrates Labour&#039;s bankruptcy when it comes to ideas, morals and of course finances. After 12 years of  one of the most corrupt and dissolute governments to have graced our Democracy the best defence this bunch of chancers can come up with is, not to attack Tory policies, not to attack Tories themselves but to attack a foreign politician.  

The loathsome spectacle of the Office of this Secretary of State being dragged through the gutter by a squalid nobody, the dignity and standing that that office demands clearly beyond him, is an uncomfortable  and sad low point in British political history.

To use the deaths of 300 Polish Jews to attempt to win votes, to stand on their graves and use them as a stage for his electioneering must sicken many people, Jewish or otherwise.

When contrasted with his actions towards living Jews  we get a clearer picture as to his true stance.  This governments  cowardly refusal to denounce the Goldstone Report and their refusal to sell the arms necessary for Israel&#039;s defence against terrorists sheds light on his real motivation.  The fact that many Labour MPs depend on the Muslim vote is a pointer as to why Miliband  sidelines the concerns of the Jewish community.  With 2 million Muslims in the UK and only 300,000 Jews do the arithmetic. 

When a government gives  the nod to the release of a Libyan terrorist in exchange for trade deals can you believe it is below them to arrange  affairs so that Muslims will look kindly upon Labour in the forthcoming election? 

A Foreign Secretary who supports the entry of Turkey into the EU and cravenly tells us that  terrorism is acceptable in some circumstances and is effective.

Any wonder that Labour funds  Hizb ut tahrir, has radical Islamists as advisors and funds the IPPR think tank which funnily enough recommends we partner with the radical Muslim Brotherhood.

The age of McBride and Campbell seem to live on, and they don&#039;t have the decency to dress it up in diplomatic language...just pure out and out  villainy and abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The increasingly hapless Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs  admirably demonstrates Labour&#8217;s bankruptcy when it comes to ideas, morals and of course finances. After 12 years of  one of the most corrupt and dissolute governments to have graced our Democracy the best defence this bunch of chancers can come up with is, not to attack Tory policies, not to attack Tories themselves but to attack a foreign politician.  </p>
<p>The loathsome spectacle of the Office of this Secretary of State being dragged through the gutter by a squalid nobody, the dignity and standing that that office demands clearly beyond him, is an uncomfortable  and sad low point in British political history.</p>
<p>To use the deaths of 300 Polish Jews to attempt to win votes, to stand on their graves and use them as a stage for his electioneering must sicken many people, Jewish or otherwise.</p>
<p>When contrasted with his actions towards living Jews  we get a clearer picture as to his true stance.  This governments  cowardly refusal to denounce the Goldstone Report and their refusal to sell the arms necessary for Israel&#8217;s defence against terrorists sheds light on his real motivation.  The fact that many Labour MPs depend on the Muslim vote is a pointer as to why Miliband  sidelines the concerns of the Jewish community.  With 2 million Muslims in the UK and only 300,000 Jews do the arithmetic. </p>
<p>When a government gives  the nod to the release of a Libyan terrorist in exchange for trade deals can you believe it is below them to arrange  affairs so that Muslims will look kindly upon Labour in the forthcoming election? </p>
<p>A Foreign Secretary who supports the entry of Turkey into the EU and cravenly tells us that  terrorism is acceptable in some circumstances and is effective.</p>
<p>Any wonder that Labour funds  Hizb ut tahrir, has radical Islamists as advisors and funds the IPPR think tank which funnily enough recommends we partner with the radical Muslim Brotherhood.</p>
<p>The age of McBride and Campbell seem to live on, and they don&#8217;t have the decency to dress it up in diplomatic language&#8230;just pure out and out  villainy and abuse.</p>
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