Comments on: “The DDR was also absolutely pioneering in gay rights” http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 25 May 2012 22:45:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: andy newman http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-396521 andy newman Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:38:58 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-396521 my response to this is here; http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4749 my response to this is here;
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4749

]]> By: mictalan http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-396020 mictalan Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:38:21 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-396020 <i>the West German border guards who treated him with contempt as a Communist dupe</i> Oh yeah, that's what they were contemptuous of. the West German border guards who treated him with contempt as a Communist dupe

Oh yeah, that’s what they were contemptuous of.

]]> By: Corrigan http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395973 Corrigan Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:29:06 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395973 Reread the Tatchell text and hit this line in the 18th paragraph: " ... Vietnam was still waging a national liberation war against the American invaders ..." Remove this dishonest lying claptrap and substitute the following: " ... the Politburo in Hanoi, the capital of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, which controlled every move of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam, was engaged in a relentless campaign of armed subversion to destroy the independence of the Republic of Vietnam and was using the territories of the Kingdom of Laos and the Kingdom of Cambodia as routes to supply the NLFSV, in consequence of which the government of the Republic of Vietnam had appealed for assistance to other Free World countries. The U.S.A., Australia, New Zealand, Thailand and the Republic of Korea had responded to this appeal and, in consequence, all of Indochina was plunged into years of catastrophic war." Peter Tatchell may well be a sound bloke on Gay Rights and Wrongs but he deserves a spot of intensive Political Re-Education and Thought Reform concerning events in Southeast Asia. Reread the Tatchell text and hit this line in the 18th paragraph:

” … Vietnam was still waging a national liberation war against the American invaders …”

Remove this dishonest lying claptrap and substitute the following:

” … the Politburo in Hanoi, the capital of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, which controlled every move of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam, was engaged in a relentless campaign of armed subversion to destroy the independence of the Republic of Vietnam and was using the territories of the Kingdom of Laos and the Kingdom of Cambodia as routes to supply the NLFSV, in consequence of which the government of the Republic of Vietnam had appealed for assistance to other Free World countries.

The U.S.A., Australia, New Zealand, Thailand and the Republic of Korea had responded to this appeal and, in consequence, all of Indochina was plunged into years of catastrophic war.”

Peter Tatchell may well be a sound bloke on Gay Rights and Wrongs but he deserves a spot of intensive Political Re-Education and Thought Reform concerning events in Southeast Asia.

]]> By: Alan Ji http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395952 Alan Ji Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:30:46 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395952 "included leading members of the National Union of Students and the Communist Party" Surely at the next NUS Conference in Margate, National Exective member Steve Parry was censured, and voted for it himself? He went on to become General Secretary of the British-Soviet Friendship Society. “included leading members of the National Union of Students and the Communist Party”

Surely at the next NUS Conference in Margate, National Exective member Steve Parry was censured, and voted for it himself? He went on to become General Secretary of the British-Soviet Friendship Society.

]]> By: David All http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395925 David All Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:00:53 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395925 "Free German Youth" - an Orwellian distortion meaning young Communist thugs. "from the Irish Republican prisoners in Long Kesh internment camp to members of the African National Congress in South Africa" You left out the Palestinians: Surely the PLO recieved some of the leaflets if they did indeed circulated among the Left worldwide. “Free German Youth” – an Orwellian distortion meaning young Communist thugs.

“from the Irish Republican prisoners in Long Kesh internment camp to members of the African National Congress in South Africa”

You left out the Palestinians: Surely the PLO recieved some of the leaflets if they did indeed circulated among the Left worldwide.

]]> By: David All http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395920 David All Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:45:54 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395920 Peter Tatchell committed brave actions on part of gay rights in 1973 in Communist East Germany. He may have advanced the cause of gay rights on the Left. However like Mesquito, I wonder why Tatchell was attending a Communist youth congress in the first place. Must say my attitude would have been the same as the West German border guards who treated him with contempt as a Communist dupe. Perhaps Tatchell might have thought about all those who had been murdered by his East German hosts trying to escape the People's Paradise of the GDR in regards to the West German officials attitude and their treatment of him Peter Tatchell committed brave actions on part of gay rights in 1973 in Communist East Germany. He may have advanced the cause of gay rights on the Left. However like Mesquito, I wonder why Tatchell was attending a Communist youth congress in the first place. Must say my attitude would have been the same as the West German border guards who treated him with contempt as a Communist dupe. Perhaps Tatchell might have thought about all those who had been murdered by his East German hosts trying to escape the People’s Paradise of the GDR in regards to the West German officials attitude and their treatment of him

]]> By: M-o-r-g-o-t-h http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395911 M-o-r-g-o-t-h Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:29:07 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395911 I'm in agreement with Phil. I’m in agreement with Phil.

]]> By: John Edwards http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395902 John Edwards Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:29:30 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395902 What a thoroughly admirable and courageous person Peter Tatchell is. On a pedantic point, the reference to the SWP in 1973 must surely be to their predecessor organisation the International Socialists. What a thoroughly admirable and courageous person Peter Tatchell is.

On a pedantic point, the reference to the SWP in 1973 must surely be to their predecessor organisation the International Socialists.

]]> By: Roo http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395887 Roo Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:37:08 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395887 Peter's a secular saint Peter’s a secular saint

]]> By: Jon D http://hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/comment-page-1/#comment-395858 Jon D Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:07:13 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/10/08/the-ddr-was-also-absolutely-pioneering-in-gay-rights-2/#comment-395858 Good on peter for actually trying it out. Need a 'useful idiots' category for newman's credulity here and that essay yesterday about polygamy not necessarily being a human rights disaster. Good on peter for actually trying it out. Need a ‘useful idiots’ category for newman’s credulity here and that essay yesterday about polygamy not necessarily being a human rights disaster.

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