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	<title>Comments on: Blood Libel promoted by Counterpunch, Alison Weir</title>
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		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/24/blood-libel-promoted-by-counterpunch-alison-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-392320</link>
		<dc:creator>zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Oh, yeah, Fr. Niemoller, too.&#039;

PASTOR Niemöller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Oh, yeah, Fr. Niemoller, too.&#8217;</p>
<p>PASTOR Niemöller.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/24/blood-libel-promoted-by-counterpunch-alison-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-392201</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In 1998 a Scot named Alisdair Sinclair died under questionable circumstances while in Israeli custody at Ben Gurion airport. 

His family was informed of the death and, according to a report in J Weekly, “…told they had three weeks to come up with about $4,900 to fly Sinclair&#039;s corpse home. [Alisdair’s brother] says the Israelis seemed to be pushing a different option: burying Sinclair in a Christian cemetery in Israel, at a cost of about $1,300.”

The family scraped up the money, brought the body home, and had an autopsy performed at the University of Glasgow. It turned out that Alisdair’s heart and a tiny throat bone were missing. At this point the British Embassy filed a complaint with Israel.

The J report states:

 “A heart said to be Sinclair&#039;s was subsequently repatriated to Britain, free of charge. James wanted the [Israeli] Forensic Institute to pay for a DNA test to confirm that this heart was indeed their brother&#039;s, but the Institute&#039;s director, Professor Jehuda Hiss refused, citing the prohibitive cost, estimated by some sources at $1,500.” 

Despite repeated requests from the British Embassy for the Israeli pathologist&#039;s and police reports, Israeli officials refused to release either. (5,6,7) &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I admit I&#039;m unfamiliar with this, but it&#039;s a bit rich to present a country which passed the 1832 Anatomy Act with the intention of stealing whole bodies from poor-houses and which has seen the likes of Alder Hey as a victim of Jewish vampires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1998 a Scot named Alisdair Sinclair died under questionable circumstances while in Israeli custody at Ben Gurion airport. </p>
<p>His family was informed of the death and, according to a report in J Weekly, “…told they had three weeks to come up with about $4,900 to fly Sinclair&#8217;s corpse home. [Alisdair’s brother] says the Israelis seemed to be pushing a different option: burying Sinclair in a Christian cemetery in Israel, at a cost of about $1,300.”</p>
<p>The family scraped up the money, brought the body home, and had an autopsy performed at the University of Glasgow. It turned out that Alisdair’s heart and a tiny throat bone were missing. At this point the British Embassy filed a complaint with Israel.</p>
<p>The J report states:</p>
<p> “A heart said to be Sinclair&#8217;s was subsequently repatriated to Britain, free of charge. James wanted the [Israeli] Forensic Institute to pay for a DNA test to confirm that this heart was indeed their brother&#8217;s, but the Institute&#8217;s director, Professor Jehuda Hiss refused, citing the prohibitive cost, estimated by some sources at $1,500.” </p>
<p>Despite repeated requests from the British Embassy for the Israeli pathologist&#8217;s and police reports, Israeli officials refused to release either. (5,6,7) </p></blockquote>
<p>I admit I&#8217;m unfamiliar with this, but it&#8217;s a bit rich to present a country which passed the 1832 Anatomy Act with the intention of stealing whole bodies from poor-houses and which has seen the likes of Alder Hey as a victim of Jewish vampires.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/24/blood-libel-promoted-by-counterpunch-alison-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-392199</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Yes, the people on the right are the nasty ones and the people on the left are the good ones. 

No.  If Weir is on the Right, then a need to place her on the Left suggests a similar pathopsychology to the need of the Left to claim the sugar and spice and all things nice whilst leaving the Right with the slugs and snails and puppy dog tails.

Next week, I will teach your granny to suck eggs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Yes, the people on the right are the nasty ones and the people on the left are the good ones. </p>
<p>No.  If Weir is on the Right, then a need to place her on the Left suggests a similar pathopsychology to the need of the Left to claim the sugar and spice and all things nice whilst leaving the Right with the slugs and snails and puppy dog tails.</p>
<p>Next week, I will teach your granny to suck eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilbarry1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kilbarry1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my last sentence, I should have said that Ferriter is regarded as mainstream and neither an extremist of the left OR the right. I see that Alison Weir is supposed to be right-wing whereas Cockburn is of course very left.

In Ireland I have tried to interest a number of Jewish individuals in our very own Blood Libel scandal. They have no interest - probably because the libels are  directed at Catholic brothers and nuns rather than Jews. This is stupid and self-defeating.

Incidentally in Ireland, Blood Libels are exclusively the province of  left wing and liberal activists and are always directed at the Catholic Church. There is no right wing or Catholic equivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my last sentence, I should have said that Ferriter is regarded as mainstream and neither an extremist of the left OR the right. I see that Alison Weir is supposed to be right-wing whereas Cockburn is of course very left.</p>
<p>In Ireland I have tried to interest a number of Jewish individuals in our very own Blood Libel scandal. They have no interest &#8211; probably because the libels are  directed at Catholic brothers and nuns rather than Jews. This is stupid and self-defeating.</p>
<p>Incidentally in Ireland, Blood Libels are exclusively the province of  left wing and liberal activists and are always directed at the Catholic Church. There is no right wing or Catholic equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Kilbarry1</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/24/blood-libel-promoted-by-counterpunch-alison-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-392191</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilbarry1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Ireland between about 1996 and 2004 we had a large number of allegations that children had been killed in industrial schools run by the Christian Brothers and the Sisters of Mercy. These included accusations in a major Sunday Newspaper of mass killing (’a Holocaust’) at Letterfrack in Co. Galway. Not a single claim has 
proved to be correct. This is not surprising as several relate to periods when no child died of ANY cause. I coined the phrases ‘Murder of the Undead’ and “Victimless Murders” (check Internet).

One body was exhumed and proved to be a death from natural causes but the resulting publicity resulted in dozens of child abuse claims within a couple of weeks against the institution.

The child killing allegations were not made by isolated nutcases but by major newspapers (including the very “liberal” Irish Times) and by leading members of child abuse organisations. They have also been repeated by a mainstream Irish historian:

The following is from page 393/94 of Diarmaid Ferriter&#039;s book &quot;The Transformation of Ireland 1900-2000&quot; (copyright dated 2004 and 2005). 

&quot;In the 1990s, it was discovered that the most glaring omissions from the archive files of the industrial-school system related to information concerning the deaths of children - it is highly unlikely that those missing or unaccounted for wandered innocently outside the gates of industrial schools and became lost and untraceable. [Note 104]. It is more probable, though difficult to prove conclusively, that a small number of Irish children were beaten to death in state-financed, religious-run institutions.&quot;

Note 104:  Mary Raftery and Eoin O&#039;Sullivan &quot;Suffer The Little Children: The Inside Story of Ireland&#039;s Industrial Schools&quot;, (Dublin, 1999), page 233-4 and 271-274&quot;

Ferriter may well have written these words in 1999 when the allegations were at their height but they appeared in the hardcover edition of his book in 2004 and the paperback in 2005. He was not criticised as Cockburn has been and as I said, he is mainstream, not a left wing nutcase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Ireland between about 1996 and 2004 we had a large number of allegations that children had been killed in industrial schools run by the Christian Brothers and the Sisters of Mercy. These included accusations in a major Sunday Newspaper of mass killing (’a Holocaust’) at Letterfrack in Co. Galway. Not a single claim has<br />
proved to be correct. This is not surprising as several relate to periods when no child died of ANY cause. I coined the phrases ‘Murder of the Undead’ and “Victimless Murders” (check Internet).</p>
<p>One body was exhumed and proved to be a death from natural causes but the resulting publicity resulted in dozens of child abuse claims within a couple of weeks against the institution.</p>
<p>The child killing allegations were not made by isolated nutcases but by major newspapers (including the very “liberal” Irish Times) and by leading members of child abuse organisations. They have also been repeated by a mainstream Irish historian:</p>
<p>The following is from page 393/94 of Diarmaid Ferriter&#8217;s book &#8220;The Transformation of Ireland 1900-2000&#8243; (copyright dated 2004 and 2005). </p>
<p>&#8220;In the 1990s, it was discovered that the most glaring omissions from the archive files of the industrial-school system related to information concerning the deaths of children &#8211; it is highly unlikely that those missing or unaccounted for wandered innocently outside the gates of industrial schools and became lost and untraceable. [Note 104]. It is more probable, though difficult to prove conclusively, that a small number of Irish children were beaten to death in state-financed, religious-run institutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note 104:  Mary Raftery and Eoin O&#8217;Sullivan &#8220;Suffer The Little Children: The Inside Story of Ireland&#8217;s Industrial Schools&#8221;, (Dublin, 1999), page 233-4 and 271-274&#8243;</p>
<p>Ferriter may well have written these words in 1999 when the allegations were at their height but they appeared in the hardcover edition of his book in 2004 and the paperback in 2005. He was not criticised as Cockburn has been and as I said, he is mainstream, not a left wing nutcase.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc Martyn: Are you on stupid pills? Sophia says -- correctly i believe, but that&#039;s not the point -- that Weir (note: not Counterpunch, not all anti-semitic lefties, just Weir) is on the right, and you immediately conflate to: yes, people on the right are the nasty ones.....

I mean, are you really that fucking stupid?

And, no, this is NOT a disease of the entire left. Many liberals and social democrats (i.e. the centre-left) are just as supportive of action against Islamism etc. You all should know this, since the Posters here, David T, Gene, etc. fit into that category, as does Terry Glavin, and too many others to name. Think Euston Manifesto, and then stop talking drivel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc Martyn: Are you on stupid pills? Sophia says &#8212; correctly i believe, but that&#8217;s not the point &#8212; that Weir (note: not Counterpunch, not all anti-semitic lefties, just Weir) is on the right, and you immediately conflate to: yes, people on the right are the nasty ones&#8230;..</p>
<p>I mean, are you really that fucking stupid?</p>
<p>And, no, this is NOT a disease of the entire left. Many liberals and social democrats (i.e. the centre-left) are just as supportive of action against Islamism etc. You all should know this, since the Posters here, David T, Gene, etc. fit into that category, as does Terry Glavin, and too many others to name. Think Euston Manifesto, and then stop talking drivel.</p>
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		<title>By: Grantman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grantman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mesquito, you comment was not over the top; it IS the left.   Jon, you are right, it IS toxic and it IS spreading.   Keep your eyes open (and your powder dry!)

The left, while full of good intentions, is traipsing down a path from which it will never recover unless it forthrightly disavows and combats this type of filth.

Remember, the Jews are the canaries in the mine.

Oh, yeah, Fr. Niemoller, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mesquito, you comment was not over the top; it IS the left.   Jon, you are right, it IS toxic and it IS spreading.   Keep your eyes open (and your powder dry!)</p>
<p>The left, while full of good intentions, is traipsing down a path from which it will never recover unless it forthrightly disavows and combats this type of filth.</p>
<p>Remember, the Jews are the canaries in the mine.</p>
<p>Oh, yeah, Fr. Niemoller, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Gill</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/24/blood-libel-promoted-by-counterpunch-alison-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-391950</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Adam Holland for exposing this racist filth.  The world needs to know the depths to which Cockburn&#039;s cancerous little rag has sunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Adam Holland for exposing this racist filth.  The world needs to know the depths to which Cockburn&#8217;s cancerous little rag has sunk.</p>
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		<title>By: scarf</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Sophia, this bs can come from both far left and far right, and also from part of &#039;new age&#039; and &#039;old religion&#039; ( ie druid etc ) groupings.
Thanks for the extensive debunking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Sophia, this bs can come from both far left and far right, and also from part of &#8216;new age&#8217; and &#8216;old religion&#8217; ( ie druid etc ) groupings.<br />
Thanks for the extensive debunking.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-done article, especially the extensive debunking and setting the record straight on a number of inaccuracies/lies.

As to the need of individuals feeling the need to resuscitate the blood libel myth in the effing 21st Century: Disguisting. All the more reason to expose (certain, not all, to be fair) leftist &quot;champions of justice&quot; for what they are, and ridicule them as they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-done article, especially the extensive debunking and setting the record straight on a number of inaccuracies/lies.</p>
<p>As to the need of individuals feeling the need to resuscitate the blood libel myth in the effing 21st Century: Disguisting. All the more reason to expose (certain, not all, to be fair) leftist &#8220;champions of justice&#8221; for what they are, and ridicule them as they deserve.</p>
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