Comments on: Then and Now http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:33:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Graham http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-385191 Graham Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:52:51 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-385191 <i>Ken Livingstone made the trains run on time? (joke question)</i> The bendy buses were never more than about five minutes late (I'm sure Mussolini would never have boarded a bus anyway...) In Will's defence he always had a laboured theatricality that the likes of Sonic couldn't reach - Brecht on Special Brew (if you will.) Ken Livingstone made the trains run on time? (joke question)

The bendy buses were never more than about five minutes late (I’m sure Mussolini would never have boarded a bus anyway…)

In Will’s defence he always had a laboured theatricality that the likes of Sonic couldn’t reach – Brecht on Special Brew (if you will.)

]]> By: David All http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-385069 David All Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:56:13 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-385069 Ken Livingstone made the trains run on time? (joke question) About Berlusconi: It would be honest if he gave up the pretense of leading a democracy and rule as the new IL Duce of the second Fascist Italy that he so obviously wants to be. Ken Livingstone made the trains run on time? (joke question)

About Berlusconi: It would be honest if he gave up the pretense of leading a democracy and rule as the new IL Duce of the second Fascist Italy that he so obviously wants to be.

]]> By: Ben http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-385061 Ben Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:39:15 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-385061 Ah, the good old days. Back when HP was a noticeably rosier hue of pink than it is now. I rather miss the bare knuckle fights between the sensible left and the idiot left that used to pepper the comments boxes. These days the bare knuckle fights seem to be with the Daily Mail readers and Eurabists in the comments boxes. The idiot left seemed rather to give up. Shame, as they were more sensible and intelligent loons than the class of loons you get these days. And the way every thread would end up turning around to Iraq. Nostalgia. Good stuff. Ah, the good old days. Back when HP was a noticeably rosier hue of pink than it is now. I rather miss the bare knuckle fights between the sensible left and the idiot left that used to pepper the comments boxes. These days the bare knuckle fights seem to be with the Daily Mail readers and Eurabists in the comments boxes. The idiot left seemed rather to give up. Shame, as they were more sensible and intelligent loons than the class of loons you get these days.

And the way every thread would end up turning around to Iraq. Nostalgia. Good stuff.

]]> By: Monty http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-385039 Monty Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:23:23 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-385039 Shuggy ain't odious, he's actually very thoughtful. Shuggy ain’t odious, he’s actually very thoughtful.

]]> By: Venichka http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-385018 Venichka Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:43:44 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-385018 Well I certainly don't consider Terry Glavin or Shuggy (less still Ken Livingstone, your parodic description of whom, and its oh-so-dariong and oh-so-original comparison with Mussolini (and, what then of Berlusconi, who associates and allies and governs for real with fascists), would be disgusting and libellious were it not so pathetically, not to say bathetically, amusing, and reflect so badly on the proponent of such a preposterous view) to be either odious or unsavoury. (Don't interpret this to mean that I do automatically consider Hak Mao or Jim Denham to be such: I don't know enough, and don't care to know enough, about either of them to comment. In general life is far too short to waste it on reading the stuff of authoritarian leftist extremists or apologists for the evil genius of the Red Army, the proponant of "doing away with all the papero-Quakist nonsense about the sanctity of human life" that was Monsieur Trotsky) Christopher Hitchens, however....yeah, i think unsavoury will do, for sure. But there is no denying that Will's presence in the HP comments threads, or the stuff he would post at either of his websites...was essentially the stuff of knuckle-kicking violent and hateful leftist bully-boys, apologia for decades of Marxist-influenced murder and oppression. Soviet propaganda, basically. Disgusting stuff. Well I certainly don’t consider Terry Glavin or Shuggy (less still Ken Livingstone, your parodic description of whom, and its oh-so-dariong and oh-so-original comparison with Mussolini (and, what then of Berlusconi, who associates and allies and governs for real with fascists), would be disgusting and libellious were it not so pathetically, not to say bathetically, amusing, and reflect so badly on the proponent of such a preposterous view) to be either odious or unsavoury.

(Don’t interpret this to mean that I do automatically consider Hak Mao or Jim Denham to be such: I don’t know enough, and don’t care to know enough, about either of them to comment. In general life is far too short to waste it on reading the stuff of authoritarian leftist extremists or apologists for the evil genius of the Red Army, the proponant of “doing away with all the papero-Quakist nonsense about the sanctity of human life” that was Monsieur Trotsky)

Christopher Hitchens, however….yeah, i think unsavoury will do, for sure.

But there is no denying that Will’s presence in the HP comments threads, or the stuff he would post at either of his websites…was essentially the stuff of knuckle-kicking violent and hateful leftist bully-boys, apologia for decades of Marxist-influenced murder and oppression. Soviet propaganda, basically. Disgusting stuff.

]]> By: Lbnaz http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-384995 Lbnaz Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:47:45 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-384995 <i>and a tendency to team up in a bullying fashion with odious and no less unsavoury allies</i> Who were Will's "odious" and "unsavoury" allies? I don't consider Terry Glavin, Shuggy, Hak Mao, or Jim Denham, to name a few of DSTPfW's contributors and commenters, either unsavoury or odious. I reserve terms like odious and unsavoury for creepy Ikhwani arselickers like Ken Livingstone whose only saving grace was that he made the trains run on time. and a tendency to team up in a bullying fashion with odious and no less unsavoury allies

Who were Will’s “odious” and “unsavoury” allies? I don’t consider Terry Glavin, Shuggy, Hak Mao, or Jim Denham, to name a few of DSTPfW’s contributors and commenters, either unsavoury or odious. I reserve terms like odious and unsavoury for creepy Ikhwani arselickers like Ken Livingstone whose only saving grace was that he made the trains run on time.

]]> By: Monty http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-384992 Monty Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:40:27 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-384992 SueR 3 September 2009, 3:22 pm Does anyone know what has happened to Will? Has he fallen under a bus or something? ------------- I suspect the junior schools on Teesside opened again on Tuesday, so we probably won't hear much from him until he gets expelled again. SueR
3 September 2009, 3:22 pm

Does anyone know what has happened to Will? Has he fallen under a bus or something?
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I suspect the junior schools on Teesside opened again on Tuesday, so we probably won’t hear much from him until he gets expelled again.

]]> By: Joanne http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-384980 Joanne Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:20:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-384980 I kind of liked the old format for HP. I was sorry to see it go. This one is just so-so. Sorry. I kind of liked the old format for HP. I was sorry to see it go. This one is just so-so. Sorry.

]]> By: SueR http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-384943 SueR Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:22:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-384943 Does anyone know what has happened to Will? Has he fallen under a bus or something? Does anyone know what has happened to Will? Has he fallen under a bus or something?

]]> By: Venichka http://hurryupharry.org/2009/09/03/then-and-now-5/comment-page-1/#comment-384908 Venichka Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:57:58 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=21201#comment-384908 Ah, but it must be said that, possibly more than pretty much any one-time HP regular, Will is not missed from the comments threads chez HP at all; all he ever had to offer here was vindictive pettyness and disruptive axe-grinding combined with an deluded and infantile Weltanschaaung, laden with snide insinuations and a tendency to team up in a bullying fashion with odious and no less unsavoury allies. In fact his appearance could be guaranteed to distract attention from the subject at hand to promote his own rather noxious and vile prejudices and facile hero-worship. (But such has been what has generally passed for mainstream left-wing politics since time immemorial - well, since the French Terror, anyway....) (And, of course; that is NOT the original HP header...as real long-time readers will recall...I'm sure Marcus is aware of that) Back on topic - the Telegraph website was great when it was blue. Those was the days when the paper version was worth reading, too. Oh how that age has passed. The BBC News one is probably the one that has improved the most. (in functionality as well as content) Ah, but it must be said that, possibly more than pretty much any one-time HP regular, Will is not missed from the comments threads chez HP at all; all he ever had to offer here was vindictive pettyness and disruptive axe-grinding combined with an deluded and infantile Weltanschaaung, laden with snide insinuations and a tendency to team up in a bullying fashion with odious and no less unsavoury allies. In fact his appearance could be guaranteed to distract attention from the subject at hand to promote his own rather noxious and vile prejudices and facile hero-worship. (But such has been what has generally passed for mainstream left-wing politics since time immemorial – well, since the French Terror, anyway….)

(And, of course; that is NOT the original HP header…as real long-time readers will recall…I’m sure Marcus is aware of that)

Back on topic – the Telegraph website was great when it was blue. Those was the days when the paper version was worth reading, too. Oh how that age has passed.

The BBC News one is probably the one that has improved the most. (in functionality as well as content)

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