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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: JPP</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/23/a-reputation-to-defend/comment-page-1/#comment-382666</link>
		<dc:creator>JPP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yyvonne

What are your views on gay people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yyvonne</p>
<p>What are your views on gay people?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/23/a-reputation-to-defend/comment-page-1/#comment-381776</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Habibi, if they are aware, then fair play, criticise away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habibi, if they are aware, then fair play, criticise away.</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne Ridley</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/23/a-reputation-to-defend/comment-page-1/#comment-381675</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvonne Ridley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John,
What don&#039;t you understand aboutn &quot;taken out of context&quot;. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the box.

&quot;Anyway I don’t have time to waste arguing with a someone apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome.&quot; - hahaha, John that&#039;s exactly what you&#039;ve done.

yvonne
ps: Read my book and then read the definition on Stockholm Syndrome. Once again you don&#039;t let facts get in the way of a good story, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John,<br />
What don&#8217;t you understand aboutn &#8220;taken out of context&#8221;. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the box.</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway I don’t have time to waste arguing with a someone apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome.&#8221; &#8211; hahaha, John that&#8217;s exactly what you&#8217;ve done.</p>
<p>yvonne<br />
ps: Read my book and then read the definition on Stockholm Syndrome. Once again you don&#8217;t let facts get in the way of a good story, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Yvonne Ridley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yvonne Ridley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John,
What don&#039;t you understand aboutn &quot;taken out of context&quot;. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the box.

&quot;Anyway I don’t have time to waste arguing with a someone apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome.&quot; - hahaha, John that&#039;s exactly what you&#039;ve done.

yvonne
ps: Read my book and then read the definition on Stockholm Syndrome. Once again you don&#039;t let facts get in the way of a good story, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John,<br />
What don&#8217;t you understand aboutn &#8220;taken out of context&#8221;. Obviously not the sharpest tool in the box.</p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway I don’t have time to waste arguing with a someone apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome.&#8221; &#8211; hahaha, John that&#8217;s exactly what you&#8217;ve done.</p>
<p>yvonne<br />
ps: Read my book and then read the definition on Stockholm Syndrome. Once again you don&#8217;t let facts get in the way of a good story, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/23/a-reputation-to-defend/comment-page-1/#comment-381495</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yyvonne

(If that&#039;s really you)

How exactly was it taken out of context? Are you denying you said those things? (P.S. Did you drink alcohol in your previous life? Does it make the victims less &quot;innocent&quot; because they were at a bar selling alcohol?) 

Anyway I don&#039;t have time to waste arguing with a someone apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yyvonne</p>
<p>(If that&#8217;s really you)</p>
<p>How exactly was it taken out of context? Are you denying you said those things? (P.S. Did you drink alcohol in your previous life? Does it make the victims less &#8220;innocent&#8221; because they were at a bar selling alcohol?) </p>
<p>Anyway I don&#8217;t have time to waste arguing with a someone apparently suffering from Stockholm syndrome.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix (Italy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix (Italy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant JEFF BUCKLEY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant JEFF BUCKLEY</p>
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		<title>By: Felix (Italy)</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/23/a-reputation-to-defend/comment-page-1/#comment-381319</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix (Italy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a comment on The Warriors Song. Apart from being a bad poem, badly recited or sort of sung with nothing warrior-like about it, it uses just a few notes of the major scale, which represents a supremely Western achievement, born of the Enlightenment and rationalisation - for better and worse.These singers could, at the very least, use an Oriental scale, and not a westernised one. They are the suckers of the Western civilisation they despise.

Western capitalist culture has knocked down nearly all resistance. I saw the black population of Namibia ceding to Wesleyan Church music, when they had a far superior music of their own. 

The same is true of the various Communist associations of today. They seem to have no idea of the extent to which their minds have been taken over by capitalist values. So there is something futile and helpless about their protestions.

Music reveals unconscious or subconscious impulses. It tells the truth. Joan Baez may sing &quot;We shall overcome&quot; (we have not overcome), Rock musicians may give concerts for freedom or against Apartheid, but the music in its structure says, &quot;We want to be slaves.&quot; Stephen Buckley may be mentioned as a Rock Musician who struggles against the musical language that was expected of him. He plays distrustfully around the received harmonies expected of him. In some moments he exceeds all boundaries with wild passion.

This does not mean that I reject all light music. It is cathartic -in a limited sense - as it just brings us back to the reality we have forgotten during the disco night; there is undoubted talent among pop musicians. But there has been a fatal ever-increasing peer group identification with pop, trhat actually excludes and cuts of music in which a process of reflection is allowed.

Everything now goes back to the basic chords of the Warrior Song. The major/minor system on which it is based emerged in the music of Bach, became established in Classicism, began to have shadows thrown over it in Romanticism and was then expelled by the Schoenberg School. Its historical life has been very brief. But everyone who learns the guitar now is brought back to those basic chords, taken absolutely for granted, as though they were natural and eternal. They aren&#039;t. The major chord was deliberately falsified so that all keys could fit into it. They have become a trap and  heavy metal hysteria has admitted unwittingly that it is a trap.

I saw a very honest film, The Wall - I think it was by the Pink Floyd - in which the anti-hero ends up as a weakened, collapsed ego receiving heroin injections. The screaming mob of fans have given up their egos, and the Pink Floyd alter their clothes intermittently into Nazi uniforms.

This is a serious political subject.

Who in Europe still knows who their great composers are? One of these is the British composer called Brian Ferneyhough (fernyhuf). He is about one year older than me. iI is no joke to cleanse yourself of musical brainwashing, but he still finds a corner of the brain in which music can still speak:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldVZdXkc28E    

This music is NOT elitist. It is committed to finding a way out of a cultural prison. Under the Communist and Fascist regimes such music was strictly forbidden. It could only arise in the relatively free capitalist world, which has not troible in rendering it harmless. But it is not harmless: it is a tatto that cannot be erased, a spoke in the wheels. 

The Warrior Song, by comparison, is poisonous kitsch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment on The Warriors Song. Apart from being a bad poem, badly recited or sort of sung with nothing warrior-like about it, it uses just a few notes of the major scale, which represents a supremely Western achievement, born of the Enlightenment and rationalisation &#8211; for better and worse.These singers could, at the very least, use an Oriental scale, and not a westernised one. They are the suckers of the Western civilisation they despise.</p>
<p>Western capitalist culture has knocked down nearly all resistance. I saw the black population of Namibia ceding to Wesleyan Church music, when they had a far superior music of their own. </p>
<p>The same is true of the various Communist associations of today. They seem to have no idea of the extent to which their minds have been taken over by capitalist values. So there is something futile and helpless about their protestions.</p>
<p>Music reveals unconscious or subconscious impulses. It tells the truth. Joan Baez may sing &#8220;We shall overcome&#8221; (we have not overcome), Rock musicians may give concerts for freedom or against Apartheid, but the music in its structure says, &#8220;We want to be slaves.&#8221; Stephen Buckley may be mentioned as a Rock Musician who struggles against the musical language that was expected of him. He plays distrustfully around the received harmonies expected of him. In some moments he exceeds all boundaries with wild passion.</p>
<p>This does not mean that I reject all light music. It is cathartic -in a limited sense &#8211; as it just brings us back to the reality we have forgotten during the disco night; there is undoubted talent among pop musicians. But there has been a fatal ever-increasing peer group identification with pop, trhat actually excludes and cuts of music in which a process of reflection is allowed.</p>
<p>Everything now goes back to the basic chords of the Warrior Song. The major/minor system on which it is based emerged in the music of Bach, became established in Classicism, began to have shadows thrown over it in Romanticism and was then expelled by the Schoenberg School. Its historical life has been very brief. But everyone who learns the guitar now is brought back to those basic chords, taken absolutely for granted, as though they were natural and eternal. They aren&#8217;t. The major chord was deliberately falsified so that all keys could fit into it. They have become a trap and  heavy metal hysteria has admitted unwittingly that it is a trap.</p>
<p>I saw a very honest film, The Wall &#8211; I think it was by the Pink Floyd &#8211; in which the anti-hero ends up as a weakened, collapsed ego receiving heroin injections. The screaming mob of fans have given up their egos, and the Pink Floyd alter their clothes intermittently into Nazi uniforms.</p>
<p>This is a serious political subject.</p>
<p>Who in Europe still knows who their great composers are? One of these is the British composer called Brian Ferneyhough (fernyhuf). He is about one year older than me. iI is no joke to cleanse yourself of musical brainwashing, but he still finds a corner of the brain in which music can still speak:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldVZdXkc28E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldVZdXkc28E</a>    </p>
<p>This music is NOT elitist. It is committed to finding a way out of a cultural prison. Under the Communist and Fascist regimes such music was strictly forbidden. It could only arise in the relatively free capitalist world, which has not troible in rendering it harmless. But it is not harmless: it is a tatto that cannot be erased, a spoke in the wheels. </p>
<p>The Warrior Song, by comparison, is poisonous kitsch.</p>
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		<title>By: habibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>habibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

K&amp;C &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; aware of who is scheduled to speak, thanks to outsiders.  Rather than “having a go at them”, I and others are simply asking them to do the right thing and deny public sector facilities to fanatics who support terrorists.

Councils are involved in anti-extremism work, as you must know.  I am sceptical about passing such difficult and delicate responsibilities to local authorities, which do have a lot of work on already, as you note. 

I hope this case doesn’t provide solid evidence for my scepticism.  We shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>K&amp;C <em>are</em> aware of who is scheduled to speak, thanks to outsiders.  Rather than “having a go at them”, I and others are simply asking them to do the right thing and deny public sector facilities to fanatics who support terrorists.</p>
<p>Councils are involved in anti-extremism work, as you must know.  I am sceptical about passing such difficult and delicate responsibilities to local authorities, which do have a lot of work on already, as you note. </p>
<p>I hope this case doesn’t provide solid evidence for my scepticism.  We shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: Venichka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venichka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest &quot;Truly He Is Risen&quot; (or, if you must &quot;THIR&quot;), if you must. But if would probably make you look like a fanatic in many contexts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest &#8220;Truly He Is Risen&#8221; (or, if you must &#8220;THIR&#8221;), if you must. But if would probably make you look like a fanatic in many contexts.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to say like the piece, but working for a council as i do, there are two reasons why they might not cancel the event.

1. (the most likely) like everyone else who probably reads this they had no idea who will speak at the event or what they have said previously.  They may now change their minds.

2. They don&#039;t want the freedom of speech fight, after all councils are obligated to follow the human rights act.  if there is evidence of hate speech, then fair enough, but if there isn&#039;t or if they are unaware of it then there isn&#039;t much they can do really.

either way it&#039;s wrong to have a go at the council, believe it or not, we are exceptionally busy people who have a lot to do, and searching for obscure quotes from obscure public figures doesn&#039;t really feature as a great part of our time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to say like the piece, but working for a council as i do, there are two reasons why they might not cancel the event.</p>
<p>1. (the most likely) like everyone else who probably reads this they had no idea who will speak at the event or what they have said previously.  They may now change their minds.</p>
<p>2. They don&#8217;t want the freedom of speech fight, after all councils are obligated to follow the human rights act.  if there is evidence of hate speech, then fair enough, but if there isn&#8217;t or if they are unaware of it then there isn&#8217;t much they can do really.</p>
<p>either way it&#8217;s wrong to have a go at the council, believe it or not, we are exceptionally busy people who have a lot to do, and searching for obscure quotes from obscure public figures doesn&#8217;t really feature as a great part of our time.</p>
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