Actually I think it is. CiF itself, in the sense of the part run by the Guardian, is only mildly anti-Semitic I think. I don’t think that lightly or casually, but from years of reading it. I would compare it to some guy I read talking about Patrick Buchanan back in the day before Pat made his views on Jews clear – he said that you can ignore Bitberg, you can excuse his carbon-dioxide vans views, you can pass over his views on Israel, but you can’t ignore all of it put together. Nor can you look at CiF’s record of pushing the views of anti-Semites, Islamist terrorists, and demonising Israel at every opportunity without drawing the obvious conclusion. Not to mention their one-sided banning policy which means open justification of anti-Semitism or even open anti-Semitism is excused but anyone who defends Israel *will* get banned in the end.

That tolerance leads to the general culture of CiF which is undeniably viciously anti-Semitic.

“Seriously, there is enough to criticise about CiF without having to make shit up.”

If only I were.

Different question about Cif: who decided the blog roll? It’s v v small, hasn’t changed in a year and has what might be considered in some circles a somewhat Hundalian bias. Certainly has helped his traffic rank but might explain why the PP comments section has gone from the 2nd best on the web to somewhere below Cif…

With Milne at the helm this blog would never get linked by the Graun, but a more diverse selection of opinion (e.g. from a rotating list of links) would be an improvement.

If anyone knows who to email at Cif with this suggestion I’d be grateful as I couldn’t find anything on the site.

Philo-Semite, whatever you might think about Conor, he at least walks the walk. I admire him for that and for much of the work he has done in the past and continues to do. Try to remember this is a fucking blog and we’re all pisisng in the wind the next time you want to regale us of how you might feel in the event Conor comes to harm in one of the various war-zones he works in.

So if the general culture of CiF is viciously anti-Semitic, and it is,

No it’s not. I can’t much stand the place and there is a lot of inane rubbish written about Israel at CiF, and not just in the comments, but the above is hyperbolic nonsense. It wouldn’t be true even if every thread at CiF were about I/P. Given this is not even nearly the case, it makes the accusation even more absurd.

Seriously, there is enough to criticise about CiF without having to make shit up.

Isn’t it inevitable that anyone praised on HP is banned on CiF?

Shazlee is a woman and so is LaRit. Personally I have no idea why either of them is not banned. But I think CiF relies on readers reporting offensive posts. So if the general culture of CiF is viciously anti-Semitic, and it is, then their posts won’t get reported. Perhaps the solution is to read and report more often.

Strange, that. I thought CiF positively reinforced it to try to frighten off anyone who argues with their anti-Israel stance. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was that sort of lunacy which drove Glaister away. The infamous Shazlee is a wind-up merchant par excellence in that regard but I haven’t noticed anyone but the people he’s offended taking issue with it.

Perhaps you could do another good deed for humanity and pull him up about it when he next posts in that vein.

Why not go back there? I am sure that Conor Foley at least, in his new found role as spokesman for the got at, and with his obvious desire to see CiF’s moderation policy enforced properly and rigorously would be proud to come on line and back you up against laRit and the other haters. Who knows perhaps even Matt Seaton might join him to rap the haters’ knuckles.

(Well, I can dream, can’t I?)

paul, Moveanymountain is a star.