Comments on: Hizb ut-Tahrir: “What is required is actual war” http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Sat, 26 May 2012 01:31:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: usman http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-386222 usman Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:29:15 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-386222 hizb ut tahrir is the best political party of the world.......its not a terriost ooganisation........the biggest terriosts are usa,euorpe and israel that are killing millions of muslims everyday in iraq,afghanistan and all over the world so we must fight against these kaffers and inshallah hizb ut tahrir will gain power through any muslim army and it will establish caliphateand that is not so far........... hizb ut tahrir is the best political party of the world…….its not a terriost ooganisation……..the biggest terriosts are usa,euorpe and israel that are killing millions of muslims everyday in iraq,afghanistan
and all over the world so we must fight against these kaffers and inshallah hizb ut tahrir will gain power through any muslim army and it will establish caliphateand that is not so far………..

]]> By: Nozrul Hussain http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-385894 Nozrul Hussain Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:48:26 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-385894 I wonder what statements or quotes we will find the Israelis making about Islam, Muslims and Palestinians dated back to the 1980's..?? Also, this article and even the author is discredited amongst Muslim websites who discuss he's article. http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=43651 The author only gets any credence from the non-Muslim websites who are already convinced of a Muslim threat and so seek to justify their xenophobia by applauding articles and authors of this expose nature. I wonder what statements or quotes we will find the Israelis making about Islam, Muslims and Palestinians dated back to the 1980’s..?? Also, this article and even the author is discredited amongst Muslim websites who discuss he’s article.

http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=43651

The author only gets any credence from the non-Muslim websites who are already convinced of a Muslim threat and so seek to justify their xenophobia by applauding articles and authors of this expose nature.

]]> By: Raziq http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-383205 Raziq Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:34:49 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-383205 Abdul Hadi, Let's start with the Qur'an first. Please give me evidence from the Qur'an on the Caliphate. I look forward to your reply. Abdul Hadi,

Let’s start with the Qur’an first. Please give me evidence from the Qur’an on the Caliphate.

I look forward to your reply.

]]> By: abdul hadi http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-382840 abdul hadi Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:00:38 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-382840 Raziq.. HT does believe in violence. Once their state is established they will be looking at violent expansion beyond Muslim-majority countries. Abdul hadi.. HT is a political party or state is another thing my brother... U mixed Ht with state..both have different objective and reality.. HT is working for established the Caliphate & after establishment state have rights to expand their border through foreign policy of Caliphate. after few day i will give you evidence of Caliphate through hadith & Quran..ok Raziq..
HT does believe in violence. Once their state is established they will be looking at violent expansion beyond Muslim-majority countries.

Abdul hadi..
HT is a political party or state is another thing my brother…
U mixed Ht with state..both have different objective and reality..

HT is working for established the Caliphate & after establishment state have rights to expand their border through foreign policy of Caliphate.

after few day i will give you evidence of Caliphate through hadith & Quran..ok

]]> By: Raziq http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-382042 Raziq Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:18:37 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-382042 Abdul Hadi, I was a member of HT for 8 years. I have studied their books and even taught them to others in the past (something which I regret). So please don't talk to me like I don't know anything about HT. HT does believe in violence. Once their state is established they will be looking at violent expansion beyond Muslim-majority countries. Also you claimed the caliphate is mentioned in the Qur'an. As far as I know this is a lie. Can you please quote me just one verse in the Qur'an where it clearly says 'establish a caliphate' or anything to that effect. I look forward to your reply. Abdul Hadi,

I was a member of HT for 8 years. I have studied their books and even taught them to others in the past (something which I regret).

So please don’t talk to me like I don’t know anything about HT. HT does believe in violence. Once their state is established they will be looking at violent expansion beyond Muslim-majority countries.

Also you claimed the caliphate is mentioned in the Qur’an. As far as I know this is a lie. Can you please quote me just one verse in the Qur’an where it clearly says ‘establish a caliphate’ or anything to that effect.

I look forward to your reply.

]]> By: Abdul hadi http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-381360 Abdul hadi Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:03:28 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-381360 If you want to know about Ht..the best way is to meet with Ht member or read the books of Ht.. there is too many sites of Ht by which you get the literature about Ht.. me defending the ht as a Muslim bcoz me knows all about it and all the things ht take from Islam.. If you want to know about Ht..the best way is to meet with Ht member or read the books of Ht..
there is too many sites of Ht by which you get the literature about Ht..
me defending the ht as a Muslim bcoz me knows all about it and all the things ht take from Islam..

]]> By: Abdul hadi http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-381357 Abdul hadi Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:53:28 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-381357 ohh really.. but in the Quran lots of verse about the Caliphate..even in hadith also.. Ht want to take power from the authoritarian for re-establishing the caliphate.. You all are neglecting one main thing that... the evidence mention above show some violent action as your point of you by which u called Ht is a terrorist or violent organization..rite?? but you don't know or i think don't remember one thing that Ht is a known non militant party ok so why they give these type of statements...bcoz according to Islam HT have no rights to perform these type of action then who will perform these action..After re-establishing the caliphate the caliph have right to do these action... In the above topic some of the statement is paste out of context.. and others are the part of Islam... ohh really..
but in the Quran lots of verse about the Caliphate..even in hadith also..
Ht want to take power from the authoritarian for re-establishing the caliphate..
You all are neglecting one main thing that…
the evidence mention above show some violent action as your point of you by which u called Ht is a terrorist or violent organization..rite??
but you don’t know or i think don’t remember one thing that Ht is a known non militant party ok so why they give these type of statements…bcoz according to Islam HT have no rights to perform these type of action then who will perform these action..After re-establishing the caliphate the caliph have right to do these action…
In the above topic some of the statement is paste out of context..
and others are the part of Islam…

]]> By: Silent Breeze http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-380342 Silent Breeze Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:22:52 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-380342 Abdul Hadi There is nothing in the Quran that says you need to establish a Khilafah. The Prophet never even elected a sucessor when he died. I'm sure if establishing a khilafah was so important it would have been mentioned in the Quran or at least the prophet would have spoken about it, he didn't. The fact is you and your group want to take power and kill people. Not only Jews but Muslims as well. There is nothing religous about HT. It's a violent extremist organisation that believes terrorism is justified. They should be banned!!! Abdul Hadi

There is nothing in the Quran that says you need to establish a Khilafah. The Prophet never even elected a sucessor when he died. I’m sure if establishing a khilafah was so important it would have been mentioned in the Quran or at least the prophet would have spoken about it, he didn’t. The fact is you and your group want to take power and kill people. Not only Jews but Muslims as well. There is nothing religous about HT. It’s a violent extremist organisation that believes terrorism is justified. They should be banned!!!

]]> By: jamila http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-380318 jamila Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:38:54 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-380318 abdul, no one here believes a word that you are saying. there is PLENTY of evidence to prove hizb-ut-tahrir is a terrorist organization. if you support them, then you're a terrorist sympathizer. you know these guys are bad representatives of muslims. thank you sana and jamal, i agree wholeheartedly with you guys! abdul, no one here believes a word that you are saying. there is PLENTY of evidence to prove hizb-ut-tahrir is a terrorist organization. if you support them, then you’re a terrorist sympathizer. you know these guys are bad representatives of muslims.
thank you sana and jamal, i agree wholeheartedly with you guys!

]]> By: abdul hadi http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/18/hizb-ut-tahrir-%e2%80%9cwhat-is-required-is-actual-war%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-380236 abdul hadi Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:54:18 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20565#comment-380236 its your misconception jamal... you know what Muhammad s.a.w did for establishing caliphate.. the problem is that the people's dont know anything but raise the finger very well..and they are the failures bcoz they haven't potential to do work for Islam.. its your misconception jamal…
you know what Muhammad s.a.w did for establishing caliphate..
the problem is that the people’s dont know anything but raise the finger very well..and they are the failures bcoz they haven’t potential to do work for Islam..

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