Comments on: Praying for Hamas in East London http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:59:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Israelinurse http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374332 Israelinurse Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:29:56 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374332 Not quite Nick... http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3756792,00.html More like 'none of it is our fault and we reserve the right to carry on blowing Israelis up.' Note the remarks by Avi Dichter -I fear he may be correct. Not quite Nick…
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3756792,00.html
More like ‘none of it is our fault and we reserve the right to carry on blowing Israelis up.’
Note the remarks by Avi Dichter -I fear he may be correct.

]]> By: Toutsuite http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374322 Toutsuite Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:46:32 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374322 @ Colin Wanderer: I have also found myself in almost exactly the same predicament as you; my solution was to terminate the friendship, as a) any respect I had for my friend as a person had by that time completely ebbed away, precisely due to the immunity of his position to reason and facts; and consequently b) to avoid punching him repeatedly in the face. This was all compounded and made worse by the fact that my (ex) friend had a MA in History from Imperial College (or so at least he claimed at the time). @ Colin Wanderer: I have also found myself in almost exactly the same predicament as you; my solution was to terminate the friendship, as a) any respect I had for my friend as a person had by that time completely ebbed away, precisely due to the immunity of his position to reason and facts; and consequently b) to avoid punching him repeatedly in the face.
This was all compounded and made worse by the fact that my (ex) friend had a MA in History from Imperial College (or so at least he claimed at the time).

]]> By: Empress Trudy http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374266 Empress Trudy Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:46:14 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374266 We need a clock that counts down to yellow star day in Britain. I suspect I seriously suspect that Jews will be 'relocated' away from the London 2012 Olympic Games for 'their own protection'. We need a clock that counts down to yellow star day in Britain. I suspect I seriously suspect that Jews will be ‘relocated’ away from the London 2012 Olympic Games for ‘their own protection’.

]]> By: davod http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374259 davod Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:11:21 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374259 Abbas's speech - Only if you read the official translation. Me, I will wait for the MEMRI version. “We need to embrace the future of our people with our Israeli neighbours leaving sectarianism, religious strife and hate behind us. We intend moving rapidly on the roadmap to a fully independent, viable Palestinian state, one that can be counted amongst the free nations of the world. A state populated by an educated, healthy, tolerant, economically active people of goodwill. A state where the people cherish their children, where life is seen as precious, and one united in pursuit of a vibrant, wholesome future where the soocial and economic indicators are counted as amongst the very best in the World.” Am I close?" Abbas’s speech – Only if you read the official translation.

Me, I will wait for the MEMRI version.

“We need to embrace the future of our people with our Israeli neighbours leaving sectarianism, religious strife and hate behind us. We intend moving rapidly on the roadmap to a fully independent, viable Palestinian state, one that can be counted amongst the free nations of the world. A state populated by an educated, healthy, tolerant, economically active people of goodwill. A state where the people cherish their children, where life is seen as precious, and one united in pursuit of a vibrant, wholesome future where the soocial and economic indicators are counted as amongst the very best in the World.”

Am I close?”

]]> By: Joolz http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374242 Joolz Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:27:29 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374242 I'm still not clear about what the mosque does with half a million pounds of our money, and I'm not clear about how much the other religious institutions of Jews, Christians, Sikhs or Hindus in that side of London receive of public money. If there is cash favouritism, why is that so? How much money are British taxpayers giving to institutions like the east London mosque, that invites hate preachers under our subsidy, and why are they being subsidised when other institutions of other religions don't appear to receive anywhere near the same level of public funding? What is going on? We need an audit, people. This is as onerous and in the long term, as bad as the Preventing Violent Extremism funding free-for-all. I’m still not clear about what the mosque does with half a million pounds of our money, and I’m not clear about how much the other religious institutions of Jews, Christians, Sikhs or Hindus in that side of London receive of public money.

If there is cash favouritism, why is that so? How much money are British taxpayers giving to institutions like the east London mosque, that invites hate preachers under our subsidy, and why are they being subsidised when other institutions of other religions don’t appear to receive anywhere near the same level of public funding?

What is going on? We need an audit, people. This is as onerous and in the long term, as bad as the Preventing Violent Extremism funding free-for-all.

]]> By: Nick (ex South Africa) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374236 Nick (ex South Africa) Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:19:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374236 <blockquote>have you seen Abbas’s opening speech at the Fatah conference? Very depressing.</blockquote> Can you link, or better yet precis in a sentence. Let me guess... "We need to embrace the future of our people with our Israeli neighbours leaving sectarianism, religious strife and hate behind us. We intend moving rapidly on the roadmap to a fully independent, viable Palestinian state, one that can be counted amongst the free nations of the world. A state populated by an educated, healthy, tolerant, economically active people of goodwill. A state where the people cherish their children, where life is seen as precious, and one united in pursuit of a vibrant, wholesome future where the soocial and economic indicators are counted as amongst the very best in the World." Am I close?

have you seen Abbas’s opening speech at the Fatah conference? Very depressing.

Can you link, or better yet precis in a sentence.

Let me guess…
“We need to embrace the future of our people with our Israeli neighbours leaving sectarianism, religious strife and hate behind us. We intend moving rapidly on the roadmap to a fully independent, viable Palestinian state, one that can be counted amongst the free nations of the world. A state populated by an educated, healthy, tolerant, economically active people of goodwill. A state where the people cherish their children, where life is seen as precious, and one united in pursuit of a vibrant, wholesome future where the soocial and economic indicators are counted as amongst the very best in the World.”

Am I close?

]]> By: Israelinurse http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374215 Israelinurse Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:43:43 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374215 Not entirely OT -have you seen Abbas's opening speech at the Fatah conference? Very depressing. Not entirely OT -have you seen Abbas’s opening speech at the Fatah conference? Very depressing.

]]> By: Clap Hammer http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374195 Clap Hammer Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:00:31 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374195 Colin <i>Wanderer: I had a friend of sixty years standing, who in recent years developed a hatred for Zionism and couldn’t bear to hear me criticize not only Hamas or Hezbollah but also any friend of theirs - such as Galloway - in this country. Since I couldn’t exclude these things from my conversation, I decided to exclude him instead. Just to make clear, neither of us are Muslim or Jewish.</i> Indeed Sir. Occasionally, just occasionally, common sense shines through Colin Wanderer: I had a friend of sixty years standing, who in recent years developed a hatred for Zionism and couldn’t bear to hear me criticize not only Hamas or Hezbollah but also any friend of theirs – such as Galloway – in this country. Since I couldn’t exclude these things from my conversation, I decided to exclude him instead. Just to make clear, neither of us are Muslim or Jewish.

Indeed Sir.

Occasionally, just occasionally, common sense shines through

]]> By: Marra http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374191 Marra Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:47:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374191 I'm thinking what Larkers is thinking. If the government would give £500,000 to churches in deprived areas (like mine in Copeland) we might have a fighting chance of being able to do stuff that would fight the causes of BNP support within our communities. I’m thinking what Larkers is thinking.

If the government would give £500,000 to churches in deprived areas (like mine in Copeland) we might have a fighting chance of being able to do stuff that would fight the causes of BNP support within our communities.

]]> By: David T http://hurryupharry.org/2009/08/03/praying-for-for-hamas-in-east-london/comment-page-1/#comment-374182 David T Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:31:49 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=20084#comment-374182 "No, have you accepted that he didn’t?" What makes you think that he didn't? I think it is uncontested that Qayyum attended this meeting. His name appears in the list of signatories. If you are able to point me to a statement from this man explaining that he did not give permission to the organisers of the event to include his name on the list of signatories and asking for it to be removed, then that would settle the matter. Does any such statement exist? “No, have you accepted that he didn’t?”

What makes you think that he didn’t?

I think it is uncontested that Qayyum attended this meeting. His name appears in the list of signatories.

If you are able to point me to a statement from this man explaining that he did not give permission to the organisers of the event to include his name on the list of signatories and asking for it to be removed, then that would settle the matter.

Does any such statement exist?

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