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	<title>Comments on: BBC to Pay £45,000 in Damages to Secretary General of MCB</title>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/18/bbc-to-pay-45000-in-damages-to-secretary-general-of-mcb/comment-page-2/#comment-368550</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of bringing down a complete shitstorm on my head, again, I don&#039;t think this verdict is that complicated at all. 

With reference to Moore&#039;s remarks, I guess he was referring to Abdullah. In that instance, he should have had name Abdullah direct. By not doing so, he left himself, and anyone who disseminated his remarks, liable to action from anyone else from the leadership (being a fairly limited group of people) who hadn&#039;t made such remarks.

The post pretty effectively scores against Abdul Bari with a number of substantiated charges of gittishness, what it doesn&#039;t do is find him saying is that killing British soldiers is a &#039;good&#039; and &#039;Islamic&#039; act. In fact when he&#039;s taken that way by interviewers (as cited here), he is extremely careful in his use of language to draw back from this, without ever really condemning such actions. The reader can draw his or her own inference from this. But it just isn&#039;t the smoking gun that a successful libel defence requires. 

This is all-based on my very rudimentary and not particularly current reading of defamation law, and I&#039;m surprised Moore didn&#039;t know better. Although as a fan of the literature of Robert Ludlum, I like the idea that the BBC and the MCB could have somehow have acted in concert to discredit licence fee refusenik Moore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of bringing down a complete shitstorm on my head, again, I don&#8217;t think this verdict is that complicated at all. </p>
<p>With reference to Moore&#8217;s remarks, I guess he was referring to Abdullah. In that instance, he should have had name Abdullah direct. By not doing so, he left himself, and anyone who disseminated his remarks, liable to action from anyone else from the leadership (being a fairly limited group of people) who hadn&#8217;t made such remarks.</p>
<p>The post pretty effectively scores against Abdul Bari with a number of substantiated charges of gittishness, what it doesn&#8217;t do is find him saying is that killing British soldiers is a &#8216;good&#8217; and &#8216;Islamic&#8217; act. In fact when he&#8217;s taken that way by interviewers (as cited here), he is extremely careful in his use of language to draw back from this, without ever really condemning such actions. The reader can draw his or her own inference from this. But it just isn&#8217;t the smoking gun that a successful libel defence requires. </p>
<p>This is all-based on my very rudimentary and not particularly current reading of defamation law, and I&#8217;m surprised Moore didn&#8217;t know better. Although as a fan of the literature of Robert Ludlum, I like the idea that the BBC and the MCB could have somehow have acted in concert to discredit licence fee refusenik Moore.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole S</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/18/bbc-to-pay-45000-in-damages-to-secretary-general-of-mcb/comment-page-2/#comment-368527</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t make me laugh: &#039;So much whining about British libel laws, so little campaigning to change them.&#039; The campaigning has started. See: http://www.spectator.co.uk/martinbright/5194646/the-growing-campaign-on-libel.thtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t make me laugh: &#8216;So much whining about British libel laws, so little campaigning to change them.&#8217; The campaigning has started. See: <a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/martinbright/5194646/the-growing-campaign-on-libel.thtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.co.uk/martinbright/5194646/the-growing-campaign-on-libel.thtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Philo-Semite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philo-Semite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are subjecting ourselves to &quot;creeping dhimmitude&quot;. Too much of Western society, in an attempt to be reasonable and tolerant in dealing with Islam, bends over too far backwards. 

If I interpret Biff Larkin&#039;s above comment correctly, he is complaining of this - depressing that even a staunchly independent site like Harry&#039;s is too solicitous of Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are subjecting ourselves to &#8220;creeping dhimmitude&#8221;. Too much of Western society, in an attempt to be reasonable and tolerant in dealing with Islam, bends over too far backwards. </p>
<p>If I interpret Biff Larkin&#8217;s above comment correctly, he is complaining of this &#8211; depressing that even a staunchly independent site like Harry&#8217;s is too solicitous of Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Larkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Charlie Moore is a corrupt lying cunt whose mentor is now in jail in America. The BBC had to apologise because it allowed the corrupt lying cunt to spill his guts on prime time TV. All you cunts, as well as Moore himself, are quite welcome to join his corrupt boss in the clink. Nothing Moore to add, really&quot; – Been Banned Before.

I happen to know Moore is the kind of Tory toff who set store by good manners in dealing with opinions with which he disagreed whilst editor at &#039;The Daily Telegraph&#039;. I doubt this principle carries any significance for you. If you are indeed part of the &#039;anti-war&#039; movement you do it and yourself a dis-service by coming here with a stream of disgusting language in place of a serious comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Charlie Moore is a corrupt lying cunt whose mentor is now in jail in America. The BBC had to apologise because it allowed the corrupt lying cunt to spill his guts on prime time TV. All you cunts, as well as Moore himself, are quite welcome to join his corrupt boss in the clink. Nothing Moore to add, really&#8221; – Been Banned Before.</p>
<p>I happen to know Moore is the kind of Tory toff who set store by good manners in dealing with opinions with which he disagreed whilst editor at &#8216;The Daily Telegraph&#8217;. I doubt this principle carries any significance for you. If you are indeed part of the &#8216;anti-war&#8217; movement you do it and yourself a dis-service by coming here with a stream of disgusting language in place of a serious comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronbo2571</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronbo2571</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow been banned before,what an angry person you are,I don&#039;t think you should be banned,pitied yes but banned?
Silly personal attacks have no place on a blog like this,keep to the topic and if you wish to make statements like yours,provide the evidence base otherwise you will make yourself look terribly silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow been banned before,what an angry person you are,I don&#8217;t think you should be banned,pitied yes but banned?<br />
Silly personal attacks have no place on a blog like this,keep to the topic and if you wish to make statements like yours,provide the evidence base otherwise you will make yourself look terribly silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Been Banned Before</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/18/bbc-to-pay-45000-in-damages-to-secretary-general-of-mcb/comment-page-1/#comment-368352</link>
		<dc:creator>Been Banned Before</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Moore is a corrupt lying cunt whose mentor is now in jail in America. The BBC had to apologise because it allowed the corrupt lying cunt to spill his guts on prime time TV. All you cunts, as well as Moore himself, are quite welcome to join his corrupt boss in the clink. Nothing Moore to add, really</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Moore is a corrupt lying cunt whose mentor is now in jail in America. The BBC had to apologise because it allowed the corrupt lying cunt to spill his guts on prime time TV. All you cunts, as well as Moore himself, are quite welcome to join his corrupt boss in the clink. Nothing Moore to add, really</p>
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		<title>By: maven</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/18/bbc-to-pay-45000-in-damages-to-secretary-general-of-mcb/comment-page-1/#comment-368338</link>
		<dc:creator>maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I meant to say &#039;double-dealing politically correct journalism&#039;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I meant to say &#8216;double-dealing politically correct journalism&#8217;.)</p>
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		<title>By: maven</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/18/bbc-to-pay-45000-in-damages-to-secretary-general-of-mcb/comment-page-1/#comment-368337</link>
		<dc:creator>maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clearly heard MCB magnate Dr Daud Abdullah, on a live feed, carried by CNN from Baghdad (where he had gone with a team to discuss the fate of the afterwards beheaded hostage Ken Bigley)
calling on Iraqis to attack UK and US forces and &quot;resist the occupation.&quot;
You may think that was news but no-one else did and it has never been reported and Dr. Abdullah has never been asked to account for the statement.
Double dealing politically journalism is a danger and a threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I clearly heard MCB magnate Dr Daud Abdullah, on a live feed, carried by CNN from Baghdad (where he had gone with a team to discuss the fate of the afterwards beheaded hostage Ken Bigley)<br />
calling on Iraqis to attack UK and US forces and &#8220;resist the occupation.&#8221;<br />
You may think that was news but no-one else did and it has never been reported and Dr. Abdullah has never been asked to account for the statement.<br />
Double dealing politically journalism is a danger and a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/18/bbc-to-pay-45000-in-damages-to-secretary-general-of-mcb/comment-page-1/#comment-368333</link>
		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back metta and I take your point that perhaps Eady &quot;represents one of the few certain income generators for the new court business model&quot; and not only because the conversation scenario you posited hypothetically taking place at the court listings office, as humorous as it seems to me, sounds so bloody plausible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back metta and I take your point that perhaps Eady &#8220;represents one of the few certain income generators for the new court business model&#8221; and not only because the conversation scenario you posited hypothetically taking place at the court listings office, as humorous as it seems to me, sounds so bloody plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: habibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>habibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec, it is not live.  It is broadcasted one hour after the show finishes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/question_time/faqs/default.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec, it is not live.  It is broadcasted one hour after the show finishes.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/question_time/faqs/default.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/question_time/faqs/default.stm</a></p>
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