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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/13/amanullah-de-sondy/comment-page-1/#comment-366912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Be ashamed.&quot;

Anat, keep your pieties to yourself until someone expresses an interest in them. Otherwise they are just presumptuous and arrogant. You shame yourself.

&quot;I have gay people in my family whom I love...&quot;

And I suppose some of your &quot;best friends are black people&quot; too. Save it. That kind of thing has been played out for a very long tme now.

Morgoth makes a great show of his insults and smears, and you only shame yourself by aligning yourself with him and them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Be ashamed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anat, keep your pieties to yourself until someone expresses an interest in them. Otherwise they are just presumptuous and arrogant. You shame yourself.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have gay people in my family whom I love&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And I suppose some of your &#8220;best friends are black people&#8221; too. Save it. That kind of thing has been played out for a very long tme now.</p>
<p>Morgoth makes a great show of his insults and smears, and you only shame yourself by aligning yourself with him and them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anat</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/13/amanullah-de-sondy/comment-page-1/#comment-366610</link>
		<dc:creator>Anat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I have gay people in my family whom I love, I support equal rights for gays and gay marriage, and I have raised my children to be completely accepting of both homosexuals and homosexuality.  

That said, your foul mouth, name-calling, insults and smears do you no credit, in fact, quite the reverse.  You are obverse of the Reverend Phelps of &quot;God Hates Fags&quot; fame.  Be ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I have gay people in my family whom I love, I support equal rights for gays and gay marriage, and I have raised my children to be completely accepting of both homosexuals and homosexuality.  </p>
<p>That said, your foul mouth, name-calling, insults and smears do you no credit, in fact, quite the reverse.  You are obverse of the Reverend Phelps of &#8220;God Hates Fags&#8221; fame.  Be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/13/amanullah-de-sondy/comment-page-1/#comment-366564</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s a lot of comfort to the millions of gays butchered by the butchers of Yahweh isn’t it?&quot;

You can take your feel-good compassion and stuff it up your breeder ass. We don&#039;t need your kind for anything except to produce more gay men. What we need is a few more gun muzzles in the mouths of bigoted straight people, religious, atheist and every shade in between. 

If you think athesist breeders don&#039;t harrass and attack gay people, you&#039;re huffing glue. The Soviets locked us up for years.

When a gay kid is being harrassed in school by some mouth-breathing breeder filth, egged on as often as not by some stinking little breeder sow, they don&#039;t need any incitement from &quot;Yahweh&quot; to get them going, any more than the slimy sewer they dripped out of needs help from &quot;Yahweh&quot; to beg them off of even the slightest punishment for it. So you can drop the dodge about &quot;Yahweh&quot;, breeder - m&#039;kay?

Are you trying to tell me it&#039;s only ever Muslims and Jews and Christians who beat up and kill gays? Are you really trying to tell me religion is where homophobia comes from?  Oh, of course, it&#039;s all &quot;Yahweh&#039;s&quot; fault - it has nothing to do with jock culture, nothing to do with men strutting for pussy, nothing like that. Tell me - what religion were the filth that hung up Matthew Shepard to die? What religion were the policmen in Houston that just last week put a man into a coma when they raided the bar where he was, and are claiming &quot;gay panic&quot;? I&#039;m waiting......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s a lot of comfort to the millions of gays butchered by the butchers of Yahweh isn’t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>You can take your feel-good compassion and stuff it up your breeder ass. We don&#8217;t need your kind for anything except to produce more gay men. What we need is a few more gun muzzles in the mouths of bigoted straight people, religious, atheist and every shade in between. </p>
<p>If you think athesist breeders don&#8217;t harrass and attack gay people, you&#8217;re huffing glue. The Soviets locked us up for years.</p>
<p>When a gay kid is being harrassed in school by some mouth-breathing breeder filth, egged on as often as not by some stinking little breeder sow, they don&#8217;t need any incitement from &#8220;Yahweh&#8221; to get them going, any more than the slimy sewer they dripped out of needs help from &#8220;Yahweh&#8221; to beg them off of even the slightest punishment for it. So you can drop the dodge about &#8220;Yahweh&#8221;, breeder &#8211; m&#8217;kay?</p>
<p>Are you trying to tell me it&#8217;s only ever Muslims and Jews and Christians who beat up and kill gays? Are you really trying to tell me religion is where homophobia comes from?  Oh, of course, it&#8217;s all &#8220;Yahweh&#8217;s&#8221; fault &#8211; it has nothing to do with jock culture, nothing to do with men strutting for pussy, nothing like that. Tell me &#8211; what religion were the filth that hung up Matthew Shepard to die? What religion were the policmen in Houston that just last week put a man into a coma when they raided the bar where he was, and are claiming &#8220;gay panic&#8221;? I&#8217;m waiting&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hasan prishtina</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/13/amanullah-de-sondy/comment-page-1/#comment-366546</link>
		<dc:creator>hasan prishtina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP, as you seem to be uniquely placed to tell us what is &quot;proper&quot; Islam and what isn&#039;t, perhaps you can give us a bit more detail as to how each of these four copies of the Qur&#039;an differ, which one is genuine and why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP, as you seem to be uniquely placed to tell us what is &#8220;proper&#8221; Islam and what isn&#8217;t, perhaps you can give us a bit more detail as to how each of these four copies of the Qur&#8217;an differ, which one is genuine and why.</p>
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		<title>By: Anaximanders other sandal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anaximanders other sandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is precisely what I mean when I say that no religion is monolithic and that texts are open textured. Understandings of any particular religion changes over time, and from place to place.&quot;

In other words some people don&#039;t believe it and are just going along with everyone else, some people sort of believe it but are not quite sure, some people believe it with all their hearts but are not prepared to kill others who don&#039;t believe it and some are complete and utter raving lunatics who will kill anyone who insults their &quot;Religion&quot;.

That doesn&#039;t really make me feel any safer than I did 20 minutes ago, yes this gentleman Amanullah De Sondy seems a &quot;progressive&quot; sort of guy but he is still going to propagate these fairy tales, they are still going to be interpreted by lunatics as being true and said lunatics are still going to kill people who draw cartoons or who name teddy bears or who perform abortions, are they not.

Nice guy shame about the religious fairy tales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is precisely what I mean when I say that no religion is monolithic and that texts are open textured. Understandings of any particular religion changes over time, and from place to place.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words some people don&#8217;t believe it and are just going along with everyone else, some people sort of believe it but are not quite sure, some people believe it with all their hearts but are not prepared to kill others who don&#8217;t believe it and some are complete and utter raving lunatics who will kill anyone who insults their &#8220;Religion&#8221;.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t really make me feel any safer than I did 20 minutes ago, yes this gentleman Amanullah De Sondy seems a &#8220;progressive&#8221; sort of guy but he is still going to propagate these fairy tales, they are still going to be interpreted by lunatics as being true and said lunatics are still going to kill people who draw cartoons or who name teddy bears or who perform abortions, are they not.</p>
<p>Nice guy shame about the religious fairy tales.</p>
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		<title>By: ermintrude</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/13/amanullah-de-sondy/comment-page-1/#comment-366540</link>
		<dc:creator>ermintrude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MPACuk (who are, incidentally, mirroring a lot of HP stories these days on their site - without acknowledging such, of course) have their own spin on Amunallah Sondy&#039;s views about homosexuality. If you can stomach the usual homophobic hate of the MPACuk regulars, their views may be inspected at:

http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?p=638594#post638594</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MPACuk (who are, incidentally, mirroring a lot of HP stories these days on their site &#8211; without acknowledging such, of course) have their own spin on Amunallah Sondy&#8217;s views about homosexuality. If you can stomach the usual homophobic hate of the MPACuk regulars, their views may be inspected at:</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?p=638594#post638594" rel="nofollow">http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?p=638594#post638594</a></p>
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		<title>By: M o r g o t h</title>
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		<dc:creator>M o r g o t h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Which is a simply incorrect, but a very common misreading. Ezekiel 16:48 -50 says the cities were destroyed because they mistreated guests. Failure to provide hospitality was apparently considered a bigger sin than homosexuality.&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s a lot of comfort to the millions of gays butchered by the butchers of Yahweh isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Which is a simply incorrect, but a very common misreading. Ezekiel 16:48 -50 says the cities were destroyed because they mistreated guests. Failure to provide hospitality was apparently considered a bigger sin than homosexuality.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of comfort to the millions of gays butchered by the butchers of Yahweh isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;De Sondy knows his conservative opponents will use one particular story, which appears in both the Koran and the Bible, to justify oppression. This is when God sends angels to destroy the sinful inhabitants of Sodom.&quot;

Which is a simply incorrect, but a very common misreading. Ezekiel 16:48 -50 says the cities were destroyed because they mistreated guests. Failure to provide hospitality was apparently considered a bigger sin than homosexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;De Sondy knows his conservative opponents will use one particular story, which appears in both the Koran and the Bible, to justify oppression. This is when God sends angels to destroy the sinful inhabitants of Sodom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is a simply incorrect, but a very common misreading. Ezekiel 16:48 -50 says the cities were destroyed because they mistreated guests. Failure to provide hospitality was apparently considered a bigger sin than homosexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanullah de Sondy is a bold, humane and extremely erudite Muslim from Scotland who will contribute much to whichever seat of learning offers him space.

 I am not surprised that the stuffy world of the Scottish universities has been unable to hold him. I remarked to him that he is made for the American academic and plural religious scene. Indeed as long as the USA continues to attract people of his calibre, it will be fated to remain the chief force for progressive change  in the world (notwithstanding its undeniable faults).

 By privileging monolithic Muslims who see Islam mainly as a political instrument, Alex Salmond effectively pointed de Sondy to the exit. Scotland looks set to be a country in which servility prevails if the SNP cleans up politically. Many Scots fled for a less restrictive existence in centuries past and plenty more who share de Sondy&#039;s unfanatical and open-minded perspectives will surely follow in the time ahead.

Ironically, this is the Year of the Homecoming when the snake-oil saleman in charge is trying to attract back people of Scots ancestry in the hope that they will open their pocketbooks and invest in his Caledonian Xanadu.

 But tickets for the grand climax in Holyrood park, Edinburgh  have had to be slashed in price as not enough of the locals have been swept up in the frenzy. The poet, Robert Burns, a spirit just as free as Amanullah de Sondy would be smiling if he could see how not everything is going according to plan for the authoritarian Mr Salmond  who invokes his name but buries his humane spirit at every opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanullah de Sondy is a bold, humane and extremely erudite Muslim from Scotland who will contribute much to whichever seat of learning offers him space.</p>
<p> I am not surprised that the stuffy world of the Scottish universities has been unable to hold him. I remarked to him that he is made for the American academic and plural religious scene. Indeed as long as the USA continues to attract people of his calibre, it will be fated to remain the chief force for progressive change  in the world (notwithstanding its undeniable faults).</p>
<p> By privileging monolithic Muslims who see Islam mainly as a political instrument, Alex Salmond effectively pointed de Sondy to the exit. Scotland looks set to be a country in which servility prevails if the SNP cleans up politically. Many Scots fled for a less restrictive existence in centuries past and plenty more who share de Sondy&#8217;s unfanatical and open-minded perspectives will surely follow in the time ahead.</p>
<p>Ironically, this is the Year of the Homecoming when the snake-oil saleman in charge is trying to attract back people of Scots ancestry in the hope that they will open their pocketbooks and invest in his Caledonian Xanadu.</p>
<p> But tickets for the grand climax in Holyrood park, Edinburgh  have had to be slashed in price as not enough of the locals have been swept up in the frenzy. The poet, Robert Burns, a spirit just as free as Amanullah de Sondy would be smiling if he could see how not everything is going according to plan for the authoritarian Mr Salmond  who invokes his name but buries his humane spirit at every opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: field</title>
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		<dc:creator>field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David T. - 

Can you explain why my post was removed? I posted a comment relating to Mohammed&#039;s well documented policy on sexual relations with captive slaves (which was in short - go ahead boys). This policy has been followed to this day in places like Darfur. 

I&#039;d like to know exactly how that post offended. 

Are we now not allowed to refer to the Prophet? Or his views on sex slaves? 

Mullah - How exactly was my babble &quot;ignorant&quot;? Are you saying the Prophet did not approve of sexual relations between master and slave? Or that the slave had to give consent before such relations could commence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David T. &#8211; </p>
<p>Can you explain why my post was removed? I posted a comment relating to Mohammed&#8217;s well documented policy on sexual relations with captive slaves (which was in short &#8211; go ahead boys). This policy has been followed to this day in places like Darfur. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know exactly how that post offended. </p>
<p>Are we now not allowed to refer to the Prophet? Or his views on sex slaves? </p>
<p>Mullah &#8211; How exactly was my babble &#8220;ignorant&#8221;? Are you saying the Prophet did not approve of sexual relations between master and slave? Or that the slave had to give consent before such relations could commence?</p>
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