Comments on: ‘Dog bark’ politics http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:42:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ermintrude http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-366105 ermintrude Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:36:41 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-366105 Allan@Aberdeen Ah, you play the old "the real Nazis are everyone who opposes/exposes us" gambit beloved of the BNP! Somehow I don't think I would be very welcome at the BNP's pathetic annual garden fete cum Nuremburg Rally. I'm very proud of that, actually - obviously I'm doing something right... whereas you are simply very wrong and have absolutely nothing to be proud of whatsoever. Allan@Aberdeen

Ah, you play the old “the real Nazis are everyone who opposes/exposes us” gambit beloved of the BNP!

Somehow I don’t think I would be very welcome at the BNP’s pathetic annual garden fete cum Nuremburg Rally.

I’m very proud of that, actually – obviously I’m doing something right… whereas you are simply very wrong and have absolutely nothing to be proud of whatsoever.

]]> By: field http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-366006 field Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:46:26 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-366006 Allan - Here's a simple equation for you: Two wrongs don't make a right. You don't like Islam - it seems because you think it's a violent totalitarian movement that wants to dominate the planet. But do you like Nazism - a violent totalitarian movement that wants to dominate the planet? Do tell... Allan –

Here’s a simple equation for you:

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

You don’t like Islam – it seems because you think it’s a violent totalitarian movement that wants to dominate the planet.

But do you like Nazism – a violent totalitarian movement that wants to dominate the planet?

Do tell…

]]> By: Allan@Aberdeen http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365989 Allan@Aberdeen Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:01:27 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365989 Unfortunately you weren't there, ermintrude. So I had to give it a miss. Unfortunately you weren’t there, ermintrude. So I had to give it a miss.

]]> By: ermintrude http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365965 ermintrude Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:11:15 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365965 Actually, Allan@Aberdeen, what you wrote on the BNP website was as follows: "I'm not a member but I am quite a reasonable donor - can I get in if I come down?" And the editor replied: "You need to be a cardholder or a guest of a cardholder, AA. - Ed." Ah, how sweet! So, did you get a bonehead to hold your hand and get you in? Actually, Allan@Aberdeen, what you wrote on the BNP website was as follows:

“I’m not a member but I am quite a reasonable donor – can I get in if I come down?”

And the editor replied:

“You need to be a cardholder or a guest of a cardholder, AA. – Ed.”

Ah, how sweet!

So, did you get a bonehead to hold your hand and get you in?

]]> By: Allan@Aberdeen http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365940 Allan@Aberdeen Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:33:14 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365940 Correct Edmund, I'm a BNP donor but I'll bet that I spend much less time on the BNP's website than you do. Clearly the amount of time that you spent trawling through the BNP's comments in order to 'out' me means that I must have written something that you found difficult to argue with, hence the 'outing'. BTW, does that mean that I should be banned, censored or similar? It would be a pity because I quite like reading and engaging with the more open-minded leftists found on this site. Correct Edmund, I’m a BNP donor but I’ll bet that I spend much less time on the BNP’s website than you do. Clearly the amount of time that you spent trawling through the BNP’s comments in order to ‘out’ me means that I must have written something that you found difficult to argue with, hence the ‘outing’. BTW, does that mean that I should be banned, censored or similar? It would be a pity because I quite like reading and engaging with the more open-minded leftists found on this site.

]]> By: Hector http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365922 Hector Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:55:55 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365922 Wardytron: <i>a party whose utter failure to exert any control whatsoever over immigration</i> Seriously, take your head out of your arse. Being a teenager is no excuse for this kind of air-headed, bullshit-swallowing nonsense. This government has exerted more draconian controls over immigration than any other peace-time government in British history. There is no way to make our immigration system any tighter, tougher, harder or whatever tabloid-pleasing epithet you want to use. There is no way to further stem the tide of illegal immigration unless we start shutting down all points of entry and exit - unless we impose Soviet-style restrictions on anyone leaving or coming in. You're not a complete idiot and you shouldn't be coming out with this kind of nonsense. Grow up. Wardytron:
a party whose utter failure to exert any control whatsoever over immigration

Seriously, take your head out of your arse. Being a teenager is no excuse for this kind of air-headed, bullshit-swallowing nonsense. This government has exerted more draconian controls over immigration than any other peace-time government in British history. There is no way to make our immigration system any tighter, tougher, harder or whatever tabloid-pleasing epithet you want to use. There is no way to further stem the tide of illegal immigration unless we start shutting down all points of entry and exit – unless we impose Soviet-style restrictions on anyone leaving or coming in. You’re not a complete idiot and you shouldn’t be coming out with this kind of nonsense. Grow up.

]]> By: field http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365896 field Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:07:21 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365896 Ignorance is Bliss - I've lived in the same household as a Muslim for two years, so they are not creatures from another planet as far as I am concerned. The issue is not whether they are Muslim but how much they believe in Islam. The same goes for other religions and ideologies. I don't have any friends who are fervent believers in Islam and I don't have any who are fervent members of the BNP. I very much doubt I could have a friend who was an ultra Orthodox Jew or a strict Baptist. My friends tend to be open minded people. If you'd like to indicate which part of Islam you find attractive and would like to see adopted in the UK as a matter of public policy, please let me know. Is it the ban on visual representation? Murder of apostates? Cruel punishments for criminals? Oppression of women? Intolerance of criticism of the Prophet? Polygamy? Commitment to global Jihad until the victory over the whole planet is secured? Do let us know... Ignorance is Bliss –

I’ve lived in the same household as a Muslim for two years, so they are not creatures from another planet as far as I am concerned. The issue is not whether they are Muslim but how much they believe in Islam. The same goes for other religions and ideologies.

I don’t have any friends who are fervent believers in Islam and I don’t have any who are fervent members of the BNP. I very much doubt I could have a friend who was an ultra Orthodox Jew or a strict Baptist.
My friends tend to be open minded people.

If you’d like to indicate which part of Islam you find attractive and would like to see adopted in the UK as a matter of public policy, please let me know. Is it the ban on visual representation? Murder of apostates? Cruel punishments for criminals? Oppression of women? Intolerance of criticism of the Prophet? Polygamy? Commitment to global Jihad until the victory over the whole planet is secured?

Do let us know…

]]> By: field http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365875 field Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:19:08 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365875 Think of England - There's nothing wrong with Islam or immigration being discussed. But we don't have to do it in relation to comments from ex, current or faux Nazis. Think of England –

There’s nothing wrong with Islam or immigration being discussed. But we don’t have to do it in relation to comments from ex, current or faux Nazis.

]]> By: Old Sailor http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365861 Old Sailor Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:13:47 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365861 Chemorherepy with Cymag - The new name for Zyclon B. Have no doubt that is what thr Briyish Nonces Party have in mind for Blacks, W*gs. disidents, lefties and all us other subhuman creatures. Old Sailor Chemorherepy with Cymag – The new name for Zyclon B.

Have no doubt that is what thr Briyish Nonces Party have in mind for Blacks, W*gs. disidents, lefties and all us other subhuman creatures.

Old Sailor

]]> By: Think of England http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/10/%e2%80%98dog-bark%e2%80%99-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-365851 Think of England Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:03:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19142#comment-365851 If the BNP is the only group that will discuss Islam as a problem then they will be the ones to define how it is discussed. And if they're smart they will continue to use it as a wedge issue. They must assume that what they say out loud is that many people say to themselves. If so, why should this not be discussed? As one poster mentioned, 250 Muslims have been arrested on terrorism charges and the British government has said there are thousands of British muslims who support terrorism; polls have shown widespread support among British Muslims for anti-gay sentiment; for Shari'a, etc. Why is this not a problem? This is how a Nazi party takes hold; when it and it alone give voice to the voiceless it will be the only one occupying that space. If the BNP is the only group that will discuss Islam as a problem then they will be the ones to define how it is discussed. And if they’re smart they will continue to use it as a wedge issue. They must assume that what they say out loud is that many people say to themselves. If so, why should this not be discussed? As one poster mentioned, 250 Muslims have been arrested on terrorism charges and the British government has said there are thousands of British muslims who support terrorism; polls have shown widespread support among British Muslims for anti-gay sentiment; for Shari’a, etc. Why is this not a problem? This is how a Nazi party takes hold; when it and it alone give voice to the voiceless it will be the only one occupying that space.

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