Comments on: Half a glass of Pilger Lite, half a pint of weasel. http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 25 May 2012 19:58:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sackcloth and ashes http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-365224 sackcloth and ashes Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:14:27 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-365224 'My guess was that if he tells the same lie about the UK rather than about individual UK citizens, nobody sues him for it. It still shockingly flagrant contempt for the truth'. The folks who took him to court in 1990 were ex-members of the SAS who ensured that his lawyers issued a statement stressing that the accusation that they had trained KR was untrue, and that had they been ordered to train members of the KR they would have refused to obey them. As you say, it does go to show how deceitful Pilger is. ‘My guess was that if he tells the same lie about the UK rather than about individual UK citizens, nobody sues him for it.

It still shockingly flagrant contempt for the truth’.

The folks who took him to court in 1990 were ex-members of the SAS who ensured that his lawyers issued a statement stressing that the accusation that they had trained KR was untrue, and that had they been ordered to train members of the KR they would have refused to obey them.

As you say, it does go to show how deceitful Pilger is.

]]> By: Mr Danger http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-365100 Mr Danger Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:42:08 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-365100 My guess was that if he tells the same lie about the UK rather than about individual UK citizens, nobody sues him for it. It still shockingly flagrant contempt for the truth. My guess was that if he tells the same lie about the UK rather than about individual UK citizens, nobody sues him for it.

It still shockingly flagrant contempt for the truth.

]]> By: sackcloth and ashes http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-365072 sackcloth and ashes Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:43:18 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-365072 'S&A, if Pilger has already been successfully sued for it once, why is he still repeating it?' My guess is that it's either because he thinks no one will notice, or because he's a psychopathic liar who has completely lost the ability to recognise the difference between fact and fabrication. ‘S&A, if Pilger has already been successfully sued for it once, why is he still repeating it?’

My guess is that it’s either because he thinks no one will notice, or because he’s a psychopathic liar who has completely lost the ability to recognise the difference between fact and fabrication.

]]> By: Mr Danger http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-365031 Mr Danger Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:05:54 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-365031 S&A, if Pilger has already been successfully sued for it once, why is he still repeating it? S&A, if Pilger has already been successfully sued for it once, why is he still repeating it?

]]> By: venichka http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-364913 venichka Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:10:52 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-364913 Nick, was that intended for the other thread, or was it just an, erm, involuntary ejaculation? Nick, was that intended for the other thread, or was it just an, erm, involuntary ejaculation?

]]> By: Nick (ex South Africa) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-364865 Nick (ex South Africa) Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:12:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-364865 For some reason I'd just like to say - Fuck the Pope! For some reason I’d just like to say – Fuck the Pope!

]]> By: The Count of Monte Cristo in a Bubble Car http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-364849 The Count of Monte Cristo in a Bubble Car Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:34:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-364849 in 1979, Pilger published his "Death of a Nation" front-page article in the Daily Mirror on the genocide carried out by the Khmer Rouge in "Democratic" Kampuchea. As a teenager, I remembered being intensely moved by his report. Pilger praised Vietnam for invading Kampuchea to remove the Khmer Rouge from power, putting pay to the Marxist monsters' reign of terror. The Taliban/Islamists are every bit as terrorizing, vicious and potentially genocidal as the Khmer Rouge; especially if they get their hands on nuclear weapons. But according to Pilger, outside intervention is this time is not justified. Why? Well because it involves the Americans of course. And in the minds of the hard left and bleeding-heart liberals that fact trumps everything; it's an extreme form of mental illness to which many of Pilger's ilk finally succoumb. Gore Vidal is another example. In a word, Pilger is now officially a fucking idiot. in 1979, Pilger published his “Death of a Nation” front-page article in the Daily Mirror on the genocide carried out by the Khmer Rouge in “Democratic” Kampuchea. As a teenager, I remembered being intensely moved by his report. Pilger praised Vietnam for invading Kampuchea to remove the Khmer Rouge from power, putting pay to the Marxist monsters’ reign of terror. The Taliban/Islamists are every bit as terrorizing, vicious and potentially genocidal as the Khmer Rouge; especially if they get their hands on nuclear weapons. But according to Pilger, outside intervention is this time is not justified. Why? Well because it involves the Americans of course. And in the minds of the hard left and bleeding-heart liberals that fact trumps everything; it’s an extreme form of mental illness to which many of Pilger’s ilk finally succoumb. Gore Vidal is another example.

In a word, Pilger is now officially a fucking idiot.

]]> By: Roley Poley Dahl http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-364800 Roley Poley Dahl Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:58:58 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-364800 Lucy Lips at 3.22pm, thanks for the pointer. I say it eponymously and I'll say it straight. Dahl was a revolting antisemite. Among other viciously antisemitic utterances he "accused the Jews of cowardice during the Second World War." - Wikipedia. His feckless fiction and obsession with human toilet function as children's entertainment is a lesson to us in the massive disparity that can occur between popular success and greatness. Lucy Lips at 3.22pm, thanks for the pointer. I say it eponymously and I’ll say it straight. Dahl was a revolting antisemite. Among other viciously antisemitic utterances he “accused the Jews of cowardice during the Second World War.” – Wikipedia. His feckless fiction and obsession with human toilet function as children’s entertainment is a lesson to us in the massive disparity that can occur between popular success and greatness.

]]> By: Nick (ex South Africa) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-364799 Nick (ex South Africa) Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:56:19 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-364799 who “delivered virtually the opposite” of what he “promised” and ”started his own war in Pakistan Pilger's right for once! But he says it like it's a bad thing! who “delivered virtually the opposite” of what he “promised” and ”started his own war in Pakistan
Pilger’s right for once! But he says it like it’s a bad thing!

]]> By: sackcloth and ashes http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/08/half-a-glass-of-pilger-lite-half-a-pint-of-weasel/comment-page-2/#comment-364790 sackcloth and ashes Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:32:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=19023#comment-364790 'Apparently John Major admitted in Parliament that there had been SAS training/assistance of the KR and of course the Anglo-American insistence that the Vietnamese intervention not be recognizesd, the KR represemting Cambodia at the UN in exile. Is this true?' No it isn't. Pilger got taken to court in 1991 for making claims that the SAS were training the KR, and Central Television (which broadcast his documentary) had to settle for damages. I’d say that was fairly convincing proof of the inaccuracy of his journalism: http://timesonline.typepad.com/oliver_kamm/2009/02/pilger-and-camb.html The British government did admit in 1991 that British special forces had trained anti-Vietnamese guerrillas from the Khmer People’s National Liberation Front and the Armee Nationale Sihanoukienne. This is where Pilger’s mendacity is evident. He falsely implies that the Khmer Rouge were part of a ‘coalition’ with these groups. In fact, as Derek Tonkin (the British Ambassador to Thailand, 1986-1989) noted in June 1991, ‘The three [anti-Vietnamese] resistance factions have spent most the past twelve years in mutual recrimination’, and aside from isolated instances tactical co-operation between some ANS and KR unis in 1990, there is nothing at all to justify Pilger’s claims that the UK supported a ‘coalition’ of Cambodian resistance groups that included the KR, let alone claims that British soldiers trained guerrillas aligned with the movement which caused ‘Year Zero’. The bottom line is that Pilger lied like a whore, and had to pay damages when he was found out. 'I’m not really sure what fools like Pilger want.' IMHO, they want a fucking good smack across the snout. ‘Apparently John Major admitted in Parliament that there had been SAS training/assistance of the KR and of course the Anglo-American insistence that the Vietnamese intervention not be recognizesd, the KR represemting Cambodia at the UN in exile. Is this true?’

No it isn’t. Pilger got taken to court in 1991 for making claims that the SAS were training the KR, and Central Television (which broadcast his documentary) had to settle for damages. I’d say that was fairly convincing proof of the inaccuracy of his journalism:

http://timesonline.typepad.com/oliver_kamm/2009/02/pilger-and-camb.html

The British government did admit in 1991 that British special forces had trained anti-Vietnamese guerrillas from the Khmer People’s National Liberation Front and the Armee Nationale Sihanoukienne. This is where Pilger’s mendacity is evident. He falsely implies that the Khmer Rouge were part of a ‘coalition’ with these groups. In fact, as Derek Tonkin (the British Ambassador to Thailand, 1986-1989) noted in June 1991, ‘The three [anti-Vietnamese] resistance factions have spent most the past twelve years in mutual recrimination’, and aside from isolated instances tactical co-operation between some ANS and KR unis in 1990, there is nothing at all to justify Pilger’s claims that the UK supported a ‘coalition’ of Cambodian resistance groups that included the KR, let alone claims that British soldiers trained guerrillas aligned with the movement which caused ‘Year Zero’. The bottom line is that Pilger lied like a whore, and had to pay damages when he was found out.

‘I’m not really sure what fools like Pilger want.’

IMHO, they want a fucking good smack across the snout.

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