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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-368376</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the WRP for a brief period in the 70s. I think they realised that I was not going to be to &#039;cadre&#039; when I innocently inquired why they were always going about this &#039;Trotsky geezer&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the WRP for a brief period in the 70s. I think they realised that I was not going to be to &#8216;cadre&#8217; when I innocently inquired why they were always going about this &#8216;Trotsky geezer&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Jazz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-364165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ladies and Gentlemen - Harry&#039;s Place: still providing all sorts of opportunities for dimwits whether they’re conscious of it or not. 

nb. This time I am being literal rather than &lt;i&gt;bitterly sarcastic&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ladies and Gentlemen &#8211; Harry&#8217;s Place: still providing all sorts of opportunities for dimwits whether they’re conscious of it or not. </p>
<p>nb. This time I am being literal rather than <i>bitterly sarcastic</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: billaricaydickey</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363990</link>
		<dc:creator>billaricaydickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socialist unity is down because it seems they didn&#039;t know that if you don&#039;t expand the capacity of your programn then it just jams up, sounds a bit like the SWP.

Wouldn&#039;t disagree with what is being said above but the antics of the SWP, the rest of the Trot groups don&#039;t matter, has had serious negative effect on the anti fascist movement for the last few years. 

What I have experienced in East London and out in Essex is repeated all over the country. UAF exists or doesn&#039;t according to the whims of the SWP CC. Throughout the 2006 campaign in Barking and Dagenham we saw no sign of them because they wereall in Tower Hamlets with their Respect hats on campaigning for Galloway.

What they did was to concoct a fictional campaign which allegedly had distributed 1.7 million leaflets in that area alone involving hundreds of activists and several days of action. The whole thing was a lie and you wonder how many of the other campaigns reported in Socialist Worker are lies as well.

What is truly pathetic is the attempt to build yet a new united anti fascist front. The open letter from the SWP which calls for this is an admission that they have completely failed with UAF and are desperate to be allowed back into the mainstream. It will be interesting to see what their pathetic conference in Manchester produces.

With TU money being pulled from UAF and directed at the Hope Not Hate campaign the SWP is facing a financial crisis as large amounts of that money was diverted to pay the salaries of the SWP full timers. There can&#039;t be any profits from the Bloomsbury bookshop as no one seems to buy anything and membership subscriptions must be at an all time low.

There was a huge loss on the farce at Stoke football ground and most of those there were let in free because only a couple of thousand actually paid and initially photographers were not allowed on the stage as the crowd was so sparce.

What is moving against them is the fact that not only are they control freaks who lie about all of their campaigns but that the left is becoming more diverse with people who would have joined a Marxist party twenty or thirty years ago now involved in many specific campaigns that by their very nature cannot be taken over and used.

The record of collapsed campaigns is getting more frequent with a demoralising effect on what remains of the leadership. Everything they seem to touch and have done  in the last ten years has ended in failure with bitter infighting and recriminations.

All of the leadership are coming up to retirement age and looking back on failed lives might just be tempted to pack it all in. We could see the company being wound up and the directors put out to grass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialist unity is down because it seems they didn&#8217;t know that if you don&#8217;t expand the capacity of your programn then it just jams up, sounds a bit like the SWP.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t disagree with what is being said above but the antics of the SWP, the rest of the Trot groups don&#8217;t matter, has had serious negative effect on the anti fascist movement for the last few years. </p>
<p>What I have experienced in East London and out in Essex is repeated all over the country. UAF exists or doesn&#8217;t according to the whims of the SWP CC. Throughout the 2006 campaign in Barking and Dagenham we saw no sign of them because they wereall in Tower Hamlets with their Respect hats on campaigning for Galloway.</p>
<p>What they did was to concoct a fictional campaign which allegedly had distributed 1.7 million leaflets in that area alone involving hundreds of activists and several days of action. The whole thing was a lie and you wonder how many of the other campaigns reported in Socialist Worker are lies as well.</p>
<p>What is truly pathetic is the attempt to build yet a new united anti fascist front. The open letter from the SWP which calls for this is an admission that they have completely failed with UAF and are desperate to be allowed back into the mainstream. It will be interesting to see what their pathetic conference in Manchester produces.</p>
<p>With TU money being pulled from UAF and directed at the Hope Not Hate campaign the SWP is facing a financial crisis as large amounts of that money was diverted to pay the salaries of the SWP full timers. There can&#8217;t be any profits from the Bloomsbury bookshop as no one seems to buy anything and membership subscriptions must be at an all time low.</p>
<p>There was a huge loss on the farce at Stoke football ground and most of those there were let in free because only a couple of thousand actually paid and initially photographers were not allowed on the stage as the crowd was so sparce.</p>
<p>What is moving against them is the fact that not only are they control freaks who lie about all of their campaigns but that the left is becoming more diverse with people who would have joined a Marxist party twenty or thirty years ago now involved in many specific campaigns that by their very nature cannot be taken over and used.</p>
<p>The record of collapsed campaigns is getting more frequent with a demoralising effect on what remains of the leadership. Everything they seem to touch and have done  in the last ten years has ended in failure with bitter infighting and recriminations.</p>
<p>All of the leadership are coming up to retirement age and looking back on failed lives might just be tempted to pack it all in. We could see the company being wound up and the directors put out to grass.</p>
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		<title>By: British not Racist</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363956</link>
		<dc:creator>British not Racist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all the “comedians” the BBC employs who are associated with the SWP or the equally nasty Greens, vanished, who’d be left ?
The News Quiz would consist of a chairman asking himself questions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all the “comedians” the BBC employs who are associated with the SWP or the equally nasty Greens, vanished, who’d be left ?<br />
The News Quiz would consist of a chairman asking himself questions</p>
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		<title>By: British not Racist</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363955</link>
		<dc:creator>British not Racist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all the “comedians” the BBC employs who are associated with the SWP or the equally nasty Greens, vanished, who’d be left ?
The News Quiz would consist of a chairman asking himself questions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all the “comedians” the BBC employs who are associated with the SWP or the equally nasty Greens, vanished, who’d be left ?<br />
The News Quiz would consist of a chairman asking himself questions</p>
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		<title>By: British not Racist</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363954</link>
		<dc:creator>British not Racist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If all the &quot;comedians&quot; the BBC employs who are associated with the SWP or the equally nasty Greens, who&#039;d be left ?

The News Quiz would consist of a chairman asking himself questions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all the &#8220;comedians&#8221; the BBC employs who are associated with the SWP or the equally nasty Greens, who&#8217;d be left ?</p>
<p>The News Quiz would consist of a chairman asking himself questions</p>
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		<title>By: Fabián from Israel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363942</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabián from Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lbnaz: lol!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lbnaz: lol!</p>
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		<title>By: field</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363895</link>
		<dc:creator>field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not funny and he&#039;s not clever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not funny and he&#8217;s not clever.</p>
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		<title>By: DocMartyn</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363800</link>
		<dc:creator>DocMartyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mark Steel was a member of the SWP for 30 years; yet thought that he could make jokes about GWB&#039;s stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mark Steel was a member of the SWP for 30 years; yet thought that he could make jokes about GWB&#8217;s stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: John Edwards</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/06/optimism-of-the-will/comment-page-1/#comment-363774</link>
		<dc:creator>John Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the SWP is relatively normal compared with a demented sect like the Alliance for Workers Liberty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the SWP is relatively normal compared with a demented sect like the Alliance for Workers Liberty</p>
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