Comments on: Hello Boys http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 25 May 2012 19:32:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: zkharya http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363842 zkharya Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:42:32 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363842 The subs are hydrogen-oxygen electric and very quiet. But you can bet Iran is working on detecting them, possibly with Russian help. They have long range fully submersed for conventional boats, but they aren't atomic subs. They can't slink off into the pacific and end up on the other side of the world. They run the risk of one use only: once they launch their cruise missiles, they risk detection and destruction. That's why I object to that fool Netanyahu's sabre-rattling, which is as much for the home audience as anything else. They only have four cruise missiles each, that's only twelve in total, each of about one megaton yield. That's a lot, but is it enough? They're no good for targets deep under ground, simply above ground infrastructure. There's a danger of fooling oneself into thinking they constitue the US navy. And I don't think Israel will do anything until if or when she has the F-35, which is the only plane with the stealth qualities necessary. I don't know how far Iran has integrated the new Russian radar systems. The subs are hydrogen-oxygen electric and very quiet. But you can bet Iran is working on detecting them, possibly with Russian help. They have long range fully submersed for conventional boats, but they aren’t atomic subs. They can’t slink off into the pacific and end up on the other side of the world. They run the risk of one use only: once they launch their cruise missiles, they risk detection and destruction.

That’s why I object to that fool Netanyahu’s sabre-rattling, which is as much for the home audience as anything else.

They only have four cruise missiles each, that’s only twelve in total, each of about one megaton yield. That’s a lot, but is it enough? They’re no good for targets deep under ground, simply above ground infrastructure.

There’s a danger of fooling oneself into thinking they constitue the US navy.

And I don’t think Israel will do anything until if or when she has the F-35, which is the only plane with the stealth qualities necessary. I don’t know how far Iran has integrated the new Russian radar systems.

]]> By: zkharya http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363839 zkharya Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:28:24 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363839 Israel is in a lose lose situation: leave Iran alone in the hope of a more moderate government and she runs the risk of Iran's joining the nuclear club. Attack, and even in the event of militarily successful result, a more hard line government will follow, even if Ahmadinejad is toppled. The question is: which of these two bad options does Israel prefer? Israel is in a lose lose situation: leave Iran alone in the hope of a more moderate government and she runs the risk of Iran’s joining the nuclear club. Attack, and even in the event of militarily successful result, a more hard line government will follow, even if Ahmadinejad is toppled.

The question is: which of these two bad options does Israel prefer?

]]> By: 666 http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363817 666 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:37:52 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363817 When Israel sorted Iraq's nuclear development in the 80's the world condemned them. Privately it was another matter. The same will happen when Iran is given a good f*****g. France wouldn't let America overfly its territory when Gaddafi needed sorting. How many Americans died on the beaches liberating these cheese eating surrender monkeys. When Israel sorted Iraq’s nuclear development in the 80’s the world condemned them. Privately it was another matter. The same will happen when Iran is given a good f*****g.
France wouldn’t let America overfly its territory when Gaddafi needed sorting. How many Americans died on the beaches liberating these cheese eating surrender monkeys.

]]> By: zkharya http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363809 zkharya Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:15:32 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363809 Wish it were that easy, Doc, but it ain't. Wish it were that easy, Doc, but it ain’t.

]]> By: DocMartyn http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363797 DocMartyn Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:32:19 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363797 The IDF Dolphin submarines are armed with 6 x 21-inch torpedo tubes and 4 x 25.5 inch tubes; these are much larger than the standard These are big puppies. Outer left and right. http://dontbombiran.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dolphin_t1.jpg These 25.5 inch tubes are supposed to carry Popeye II missiles, with big conventional warheads or nuclear ones (part of Israel's mini-Trident (sub, land and bomber)). As soon as Iran looks like a nuclear power, the Israelis will launch on warning. They appear to have mastered the art of making thermonuclear devices with a realistic shelf-life. Tehran, with its lovely mountains, is a nuclear targeteers dream; stick in a rosette of five 400Kt and it is no more. The IDF Dolphin submarines are armed with 6 x 21-inch torpedo tubes and 4 x 25.5 inch tubes; these are much larger than the standard
These are big puppies.
Outer left and right.

http://dontbombiran.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/dolphin_t1.jpg

These 25.5 inch tubes are supposed to carry Popeye II missiles, with big conventional warheads or nuclear ones (part of Israel’s mini-Trident (sub, land and bomber)).

As soon as Iran looks like a nuclear power, the Israelis will launch on warning. They appear to have mastered the art of making thermonuclear devices with a realistic shelf-life.
Tehran, with its lovely mountains, is a nuclear targeteers dream; stick in a rosette of five 400Kt and it is no more.

]]> By: Israelinurse http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363779 Israelinurse Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:54:17 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363779 Where's Wigton Lane? Where’s Wigton Lane?

]]> By: 666 http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363767 666 Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:19:37 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363767 Israelinurse, are you far from Wigton Lane? Israelinurse, are you far from Wigton Lane?

]]> By: PetraMB http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363709 PetraMB Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:31:19 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363709 mullah, I'm not sure what you read into the Totten article, but he comes down firmly saying that a nuclear-armed Iran would be unacceptable for a whole host of reasons. As to the question how crazy or how rational the mullahs are, this is always a tricky debate, because rationality is, after all, not an absolute concept: being rational means acting according to your interests. No doubt staying in power is the mullahs first and foremost interest, and this is arguably easier for them to achieve in a destabilized Middle East. How far they would go to destabilize the Middle East is hard to guess, but since they probably have nice bunker facilities available for themselves... Moreover, the question also is what would they do if they had the bomb and thought their grip on power is threatened? That could seem to them as a good time to test the theories about the Mahdi's coming... mullah, I’m not sure what you read into the Totten article, but he comes down firmly saying that a nuclear-armed Iran would be unacceptable for a whole host of reasons.

As to the question how crazy or how rational the mullahs are, this is always a tricky debate, because rationality is, after all, not an absolute concept: being rational means acting according to your interests. No doubt staying in power is the mullahs first and foremost interest, and this is arguably easier for them to achieve in a destabilized Middle East. How far they would go to destabilize the Middle East is hard to guess, but since they probably have nice bunker facilities available for themselves… Moreover, the question also is what would they do if they had the bomb and thought their grip on power is threatened? That could seem to them as a good time to test the theories about the Mahdi’s coming…

]]> By: Clap Hammer http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363675 Clap Hammer Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:05:16 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363675 uppty <i>Of course we could stop fucking around with these deranged death cult fascists and destroy their capability.</i> Indeed. uppty

Of course we could stop fucking around with these deranged death cult fascists and destroy their capability.

Indeed.

]]> By: mullah http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/05/hello-boys/comment-page-2/#comment-363652 mullah Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:39:52 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=18879#comment-363652 Nick, I think there's been plenty of goosestepping prior to that. Reza Shah was hardly averse to a bit of Aryan pride! Azza, what is with you and that 'we reserve the right...' quote? Nobody believes they want peaceful nuclear power, they want to build a bomb. Helloooooo! Nick, I think there’s been plenty of goosestepping prior to that. Reza Shah was hardly averse to a bit of Aryan pride!

Azza, what is with you and that ‘we reserve the right…’ quote? Nobody believes they want peaceful nuclear power, they want to build a bomb. Helloooooo!

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