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	<title>Comments on: Guardian documents Iran&#8217;s dead and detained</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Clap Hammer</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362449</link>
		<dc:creator>Clap Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda Grant. If it really is you, I do admire you posting using your real name.

Please do not think that I am being sarcastic or humorous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda Grant. If it really is you, I do admire you posting using your real name.</p>
<p>Please do not think that I am being sarcastic or humorous.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Grant</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362345</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>armaros

Apart from Seamas Milne can you name any other &#039;elements of the writer staff fully in bed with Irans terrorist regime&#039;. The Guardian has produced a grand total of one pro-regime piece by its staff journalists and some apologists on CIF swiftly countered by opponents. I find the CiF stuff quite interesting as it revealed the debates and fault-lines amongst Iranians themselves. For two weeks the Guardian published on line a daily live blog updated throughout the day, which made no bones about where it stood in its opposition to the regime.

Regarding the &#039;deafeaning silence from the left&#039; - the left is split on Iran, with the Galloway faction marginalised by far greater opposition from the left and women&#039;s groups. 

Serendipity - fair enough that you don&#039;t read the Guardian. On the hand that doesn&#039;t put you in a position to make statements about what it does and doesn&#039;t publish, so best to give that one  rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>armaros</p>
<p>Apart from Seamas Milne can you name any other &#8216;elements of the writer staff fully in bed with Irans terrorist regime&#8217;. The Guardian has produced a grand total of one pro-regime piece by its staff journalists and some apologists on CIF swiftly countered by opponents. I find the CiF stuff quite interesting as it revealed the debates and fault-lines amongst Iranians themselves. For two weeks the Guardian published on line a daily live blog updated throughout the day, which made no bones about where it stood in its opposition to the regime.</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8216;deafeaning silence from the left&#8217; &#8211; the left is split on Iran, with the Galloway faction marginalised by far greater opposition from the left and women&#8217;s groups. </p>
<p>Serendipity &#8211; fair enough that you don&#8217;t read the Guardian. On the hand that doesn&#8217;t put you in a position to make statements about what it does and doesn&#8217;t publish, so best to give that one  rest.</p>
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		<title>By: armaros</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362246</link>
		<dc:creator>armaros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a worthy subject and the Guardian has done a great job in covering the Iran story. Still their editorial line is betrayed and soiled upon by elements of the writer staff fully in bed with Irans terrorist regime and merely re-stating their propaganda.  Milne is again an example of this as are a few Iranian writers who seem to spread the idea that the revolt is futile and unpopular. 

The OIC just came out standing behind Irans regime and denouncing any condemnation of the election farce. 
This same OIC wanted the world to believe that they had a human rights agenda and wanted to impose their pythonesque version of the Declaration of Human rights on the world. 

Now in light of their open stance on Iran backing women beaters, murderers and torturers of Muslims should have been better explored and exposed by the Guardian as well as the deafening silence from the Left when it comes to British / Western Muslim groups and women s groups. 
I am not holding my breath if they will go the extra yard (not even mile) and expose this hypocrisy given that these same groups are lent credibility on the regular when the Guardian discusses Israel issues or various issues revolving around  Muslims living in the West or the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a worthy subject and the Guardian has done a great job in covering the Iran story. Still their editorial line is betrayed and soiled upon by elements of the writer staff fully in bed with Irans terrorist regime and merely re-stating their propaganda.  Milne is again an example of this as are a few Iranian writers who seem to spread the idea that the revolt is futile and unpopular. </p>
<p>The OIC just came out standing behind Irans regime and denouncing any condemnation of the election farce.<br />
This same OIC wanted the world to believe that they had a human rights agenda and wanted to impose their pythonesque version of the Declaration of Human rights on the world. </p>
<p>Now in light of their open stance on Iran backing women beaters, murderers and torturers of Muslims should have been better explored and exposed by the Guardian as well as the deafening silence from the Left when it comes to British / Western Muslim groups and women s groups.<br />
I am not holding my breath if they will go the extra yard (not even mile) and expose this hypocrisy given that these same groups are lent credibility on the regular when the Guardian discusses Israel issues or various issues revolving around  Muslims living in the West or the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: maglan</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362231</link>
		<dc:creator>maglan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David All

Actually it shows that we care very deeply that the vanguard newspaper of the left has become a platform for hate-speech and that being left wing does not have to be synonymous with the kind of hate that you expect of the far-right. I think that it would say very much more about us if we passively accepted such discourse.</description>
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<p>Actually it shows that we care very deeply that the vanguard newspaper of the left has become a platform for hate-speech and that being left wing does not have to be synonymous with the kind of hate that you expect of the far-right. I think that it would say very much more about us if we passively accepted such discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362206</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh, what was a thread about the Guardian doing articles about Iran and those being killed and detained there, quickly turned into a brawl over the Guardian&#039;s generally anti-Israeli coverage. Guess this shows where the priorities of most poster at HP really are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, what was a thread about the Guardian doing articles about Iran and those being killed and detained there, quickly turned into a brawl over the Guardian&#8217;s generally anti-Israeli coverage. Guess this shows where the priorities of most poster at HP really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Serendipity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serendipity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, but you know what, having looked too often at CiF I just can&#039;t be bothered.   I reason that any newspaper that could lend its name to such hate-filled filth isn&#039;t worth the effort.  Sorry if that offends but I wouldn&#039;t use the Guardian even to wipe my feet on now.  My local free newspaper has more absorbency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, but you know what, having looked too often at CiF I just can&#8217;t be bothered.   I reason that any newspaper that could lend its name to such hate-filled filth isn&#8217;t worth the effort.  Sorry if that offends but I wouldn&#8217;t use the Guardian even to wipe my feet on now.  My local free newspaper has more absorbency.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Grant</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362144</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem serendipity, but perhaps best to do a little research before making such statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem serendipity, but perhaps best to do a little research before making such statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Yohoho</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362139</link>
		<dc:creator>Yohoho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you should take it to heart, Linda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you should take it to heart, Linda.</p>
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		<title>By: Serendipity</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/07/01/guardian-documents-irans-dead-and-detained/comment-page-1/#comment-362137</link>
		<dc:creator>Serendipity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Fraid not, Linda, that was when I was neck deep in my studies and rarely read the Guardian or anything other than textbooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Fraid not, Linda, that was when I was neck deep in my studies and rarely read the Guardian or anything other than textbooks.</p>
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		<title>By: maglan</title>
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		<dc:creator>maglan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene

Are you really denying the obsessive nature of the Guardian&#039;s focus on the I/P conflict and the regular publishing of articles that deny Jewish self-determination as well as other anti-Jewish articles?

Are you not bothered by the fact that the Guardian went out of its way to produce an audio-visual production of Caryl Churchill&#039;s play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene</p>
<p>Are you really denying the obsessive nature of the Guardian&#8217;s focus on the I/P conflict and the regular publishing of articles that deny Jewish self-determination as well as other anti-Jewish articles?</p>
<p>Are you not bothered by the fact that the Guardian went out of its way to produce an audio-visual production of Caryl Churchill&#8217;s play?</p>
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