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	<title>Comments on: Neda and Arash</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/25/neda-and-arash/comment-page-1/#comment-359642</link>
		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3736263,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this senior researcher&lt;/a&gt;
 at the Center for Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University neither the bourgeoise, nor organized labour were out on the streets protesting:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Opposition members failed to enlist the support of two social groups that played a crucial role in past revolutions: Bazaar merchants, who always excelled in their highly developed organizational ability and willingness to fundraise, and labor organizations, whose strikes prompted the collapse of the Shah’s regime. The merchants, who tend to be religiously conservative, back the regime or maintain their neutrality, while labor groups hesitate to join the demonstrators as all their past protests were repressed with an iron fist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So much for the poikilothermic Gucci thrill seeking protester conspiracy.
You need more sun Neddy boy. I say your blood is running cold son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3736263,00.html" rel="nofollow">this senior researcher</a><br />
 at the Center for Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University neither the bourgeoise, nor organized labour were out on the streets protesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>Opposition members failed to enlist the support of two social groups that played a crucial role in past revolutions: Bazaar merchants, who always excelled in their highly developed organizational ability and willingness to fundraise, and labor organizations, whose strikes prompted the collapse of the Shah’s regime. The merchants, who tend to be religiously conservative, back the regime or maintain their neutrality, while labor groups hesitate to join the demonstrators as all their past protests were repressed with an iron fist.</p></blockquote>
<p>So much for the poikilothermic Gucci thrill seeking protester conspiracy.<br />
You need more sun Neddy boy. I say your blood is running cold son.</p>
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		<title>By: mettaculture</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/25/neda-and-arash/comment-page-1/#comment-359624</link>
		<dc:creator>mettaculture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, Maw, Anaximanders other sandal and Django git over here right now

Judy, you too siss, just pull them critters of yah titties, give em to Mother dear you know how she lahkes to take em all to selfridges,  and get over here.

Ah got em, yes indeedee,  

yee hah! got em both that Ayron and that Ned caught em both tryin to cornhole each other in that anti mercan commie City speakeasy on cornhill.

Uh huh ah got em hog tied in the back of the Smart Car, sure have.

tracked em down by the judishous use of hillbilly cunning and the kind offer of the Pentagon, spy satelites, to track the GPS of theyr little commie cell phones.

We shoor ah gonna have some fun boys

on yer knees, thats it.  uh huh what was that y&#039;all was sayin bout hillbillies and yuppies uh huh we are the motherfucking hillyuppies  you just met at the end of yer fuckin rainbow yer anti-imperialists just done gone and met yer nemesises ahm tellin yer

We are gonna have us some fun now aint we clan?.

come on  thats raht Squeel lak a pig you seen deliverance aint yer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, Maw, Anaximanders other sandal and Django git over here right now</p>
<p>Judy, you too siss, just pull them critters of yah titties, give em to Mother dear you know how she lahkes to take em all to selfridges,  and get over here.</p>
<p>Ah got em, yes indeedee,  </p>
<p>yee hah! got em both that Ayron and that Ned caught em both tryin to cornhole each other in that anti mercan commie City speakeasy on cornhill.</p>
<p>Uh huh ah got em hog tied in the back of the Smart Car, sure have.</p>
<p>tracked em down by the judishous use of hillbilly cunning and the kind offer of the Pentagon, spy satelites, to track the GPS of theyr little commie cell phones.</p>
<p>We shoor ah gonna have some fun boys</p>
<p>on yer knees, thats it.  uh huh what was that y&#8217;all was sayin bout hillbillies and yuppies uh huh we are the motherfucking hillyuppies  you just met at the end of yer fuckin rainbow yer anti-imperialists just done gone and met yer nemesises ahm tellin yer</p>
<p>We are gonna have us some fun now aint we clan?.</p>
<p>come on  thats raht Squeel lak a pig you seen deliverance aint yer?</p>
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		<title>By: Cipriano</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/25/neda-and-arash/comment-page-1/#comment-359599</link>
		<dc:creator>Cipriano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Django -

you never know - it can happen quite quickly. Though in crap health I am confident that I will see my enemies confounded, and you&#039;d be surprised how often it happens. That you and I are on the right side of history is undeniable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Django -</p>
<p>you never know &#8211; it can happen quite quickly. Though in crap health I am confident that I will see my enemies confounded, and you&#8217;d be surprised how often it happens. That you and I are on the right side of history is undeniable.</p>
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		<title>By: Django</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/25/neda-and-arash/comment-page-1/#comment-359587</link>
		<dc:creator>Django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can at least be heartened by the knowledge that what goes around comes around. Life will deal young Ned a heavy blow for the disgusting things he says and what he does. Such a pity I won&#039;t be there to see it dealt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can at least be heartened by the knowledge that what goes around comes around. Life will deal young Ned a heavy blow for the disgusting things he says and what he does. Such a pity I won&#8217;t be there to see it dealt.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ned you&#039;re right the odds are slightly low that a single person is shot and there is someone next to her ready to film.

Therefor I conclude that the odds are extremely high that more than one person has been shot in Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ned you&#8217;re right the odds are slightly low that a single person is shot and there is someone next to her ready to film.</p>
<p>Therefor I conclude that the odds are extremely high that more than one person has been shot in Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Cipriano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cipriano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and can&#039;t people understand that, if there is a valid case for developing countries fighting for a better deal vis-a-vis the West, they don&#039;t need dictators to further their cause, but would be a lot stronger with real popular governments...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and can&#8217;t people understand that, if there is a valid case for developing countries fighting for a better deal vis-a-vis the West, they don&#8217;t need dictators to further their cause, but would be a lot stronger with real popular governments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Django

you&#039;re the man

I know there are plenty of mealy mouthed-apologists for this kind of stuff on the &#039;left&#039; that give the rest of us a bad name, and that like to think of themselves as &#039;anti-imperialists&#039; etc but they&#039;re just spineless gobshites with no fucking heart. 

the regime in Iran is vile and despicable and I hope the people have their way soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Django</p>
<p>you&#8217;re the man</p>
<p>I know there are plenty of mealy mouthed-apologists for this kind of stuff on the &#8216;left&#8217; that give the rest of us a bad name, and that like to think of themselves as &#8216;anti-imperialists&#8217; etc but they&#8217;re just spineless gobshites with no fucking heart. </p>
<p>the regime in Iran is vile and despicable and I hope the people have their way soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Django</title>
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		<dc:creator>Django</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t say I&#039;m too bothered by what Ned says or thinks. He supports theocracy, enjoys the death of a young woman. Hang &#039;em high. Beside Aaron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m too bothered by what Ned says or thinks. He supports theocracy, enjoys the death of a young woman. Hang &#8216;em high. Beside Aaron.</p>
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		<title>By: pete woodhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could those (aaron, ned, etc) who feel compelled to take the opposite side to that presented here, please present cogent and intelligent arguments, instead of the sneering, smug claptrap that we&#039;re currently experiencing.
 ned, your claims of a hate fest would get a better hearing if you didn&#039;t indulge in some yourself: &quot;gucci set&quot; for example, displays your own class hatred. it is worth remembering that society needs those with tertiary education, they are the section that provide doctors, innovators, scientists, engineers, artists, writers, journalists, philosophers, managers, historians, lawyers, bureaucrats, politicians, and leaders. alienating them can only result in disaster.
 i too am slightly suspicious of dr arash, and i recognise how events like this can be spun out of control, Neda is a very powerful symbol (jean d&#039;arc anyone?). however at this stage we have no idea if, why or who. these events can be distorted out of shape for many reasons, not all of those reasons need the hand of the security services on them. you can also be sure that if our (the west) spies are involved, then so will iran&#039;s be, and thus the water is doubly clouded. we can however be sure of one thing and that is that the islamic republic is suffering an existential crisis. this can&#039;t just be dismissed as usual saturday night rowdiness from tehran&#039;s &quot;gucci set&quot;. all levels of iranian society are involved in a struggle. clerics are divided, politicians are divided, and the public is divided. 
 my personal opinion is that, if the Neda story is a lever for those people in iran who want change, then i&#039;m all for it. removal of the theocracy will be good for the people of iran, good for the people of the region and good for the people of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could those (aaron, ned, etc) who feel compelled to take the opposite side to that presented here, please present cogent and intelligent arguments, instead of the sneering, smug claptrap that we&#8217;re currently experiencing.<br />
 ned, your claims of a hate fest would get a better hearing if you didn&#8217;t indulge in some yourself: &#8220;gucci set&#8221; for example, displays your own class hatred. it is worth remembering that society needs those with tertiary education, they are the section that provide doctors, innovators, scientists, engineers, artists, writers, journalists, philosophers, managers, historians, lawyers, bureaucrats, politicians, and leaders. alienating them can only result in disaster.<br />
 i too am slightly suspicious of dr arash, and i recognise how events like this can be spun out of control, Neda is a very powerful symbol (jean d&#8217;arc anyone?). however at this stage we have no idea if, why or who. these events can be distorted out of shape for many reasons, not all of those reasons need the hand of the security services on them. you can also be sure that if our (the west) spies are involved, then so will iran&#8217;s be, and thus the water is doubly clouded. we can however be sure of one thing and that is that the islamic republic is suffering an existential crisis. this can&#8217;t just be dismissed as usual saturday night rowdiness from tehran&#8217;s &#8220;gucci set&#8221;. all levels of iranian society are involved in a struggle. clerics are divided, politicians are divided, and the public is divided.<br />
 my personal opinion is that, if the Neda story is a lever for those people in iran who want change, then i&#8217;m all for it. removal of the theocracy will be good for the people of iran, good for the people of the region and good for the people of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: amie</title>
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		<dc:creator>amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ned: Did you apply the same forensic rigour to the Al Durah footage at the time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned: Did you apply the same forensic rigour to the Al Durah footage at the time?</p>
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