Comments on: Permission for a bloodbath

By: Tori

Tori — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:28:53 +0000

I am amazed at how many people are willing to accept tyranny as long as it is aimed at the middle class. It seems to me that the extremes on the right and the left have united in their desire to see the people in Iran who have gone out on the streets as spoiled brats who just want their own way.

By: Doctor Heath

Doctor Heath — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:48:05 +0000

A great deal of righteous indignation is bubbling over at the Grauniad’s site, Ranting is Free. People there are angry at the pro-Mousavi demonstrators for their shamless support of the Neocon Global Hegemony Project. If ‘ShamelessHussey’ had her [?] way, anti-regime protestors would be shot, damn their hides. Reminds me of an old Scots lady I met in Brno many years ago. She was CPGB member and had emigrated to Czechoslovakia after the war with her husband, a brave Czech gentleman who had flown in the RAF. The more drunk the old dear got, the more ‘liberal’ were her views. When completely Brahms & Liszt, she out-Stalined Stalin and called for all dissenters against Soviet rule, anywhere, to be mown down or taken to concentration camps. So, Old Stalinists never die: they just fall in love with the next best thing.

By: field

field — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:24:33 +0000

Perhaps they should try a strike next.

By: Tori

Tori — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:57:29 +0000

People did go out. There was a huge police presence. We don’t know what has happened.

By: Joe Camel

Joe Camel — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:25:59 +0000

What’s happening today? Haaretz says:

Supporters of Mousavi have planned a massive rally in Tehran later Saturday, but there were conflicting reports about whether the rally would take place and about whether the defeated candidates would attend.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1094245.html

The AP says:

Web sites run by supporters of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi called for street protests at 4 p.m. (7:30 a.m. EDT, 1130 GMT) but the candidate himself issued no public statement.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1245184879516&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

It’s now nearly 6 pm in Tehran. What’s happening there? Why no further news?

By: mettaculture

mettaculture — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:00:14 +0000

For me the speech shows that Khameini iis not the all powerful wise one, but someone who deep down realises that he has been out manoeuvred by Khameini and his Iraq war veterans military power base.

Caesar is now the puppet of his captain of the praetorian guard.

Moussavi is clearly the candidate that represents the old power of the clerical Khomeini’ists of the Revolution and would be the far more compliant president for Khameini, if he were any longer in any position of real rather than symbolic power.

This now has all the ingredients for an intra regime driven civil war.

The clerics of Qom are for Mousavi and against Ahmadinejad who they must see as having betrayed the ideals of the Islamic revolution, exchanging the Kingdom of Allah for a Military dictatorship in the name of Allah.

The Islamic Theo-political regime shows us how weak and unstable a theo-politics is as the politics is winning over the theology shifting to a military politico-theological regime.

The two are irreconcilable through history but the separation of church and state only happens with a strong state not a strong church.

I am afraid that Iran may need another 30 years before demographic and technological change see off the old guard of both the revolution and the Iraq war, which has created the character of modern Iran even more strongly than the Islamic revolution.

I don’t want to see huge numbers of people killed for what is a the regime wins in any event scenario.

If Khameini had sided with the clerics and the idealistic principles of the revolution, and chosen Moussavi to do this, rather than with military power in his his own self interest, he could have faced down the massive engine of repression that Ahminedjad now seems to be in control of (with his probable active conniving prior to this election).

As it is Moussavi’s immense stature within the conservative elements of the regime is now compromised and denied legitimacy.

it is a fascist military coup d’etat indeed and apparently a well planned one.

By: M.B.

M.B. — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:15:15 +0000

We are all Anglos now.

By: old hack

old hack — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:46:18 +0000

And, whatever happens, Iran will be the better for it.

That’s what I thought in 1978

By: Clap Hammer

Clap Hammer — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:32:21 +0000

David All – “Tehran residents defy Ayatollah, shout ‘God is great’ from city rooftops”

I feel that I can say with some confidence that Iran will never be the same after this mass defiance of the ‘Grand Ayatollah’. (May his name be forever cursed).

And, whatever happens, Iran will be the better for it.

By: M.B.

M.B. — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:11:39 +0000

Ushta ! May they dispel druj (false consciousness).