#170

If John Wight didn’t exist, Harry’s Place would have to invent him.

Comment by Stephen Marks — 20 June, 2009 @ 3:21 pm

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4248#comment-135410

However, its good to see many on the far Left are showing signs of coming to their senses. At this rate there’ll be only a few Respect’ers, GG and Zin and co left on the side of the “anti-imperialism of fools”.

Nowadays, it is the Right that espouses universal values while the Left celebrates “diversity”.

It’s not really a left/right thing. Basically, all projects rooted in an essentially Hegelian teleogy are ipso facto culturally universalist. That goes for Trotskyism and neocon period Fukuyama alike.

Actually, TheIrie is a supporter of that view too. And Chomsky.

There you have it Ladies and Gentlemen, straight from the horse’s Arse, the Absolute, Set in Stone, Default ‘Thinking’ of the Neo-Fascist Left.

This level of intellectual flatulence cannot be treated by the normal anti-lunatic remedies of reason, logic, reality, experience or dare I say it (without a wiki link) The ‘Facts’.

No, sadly, this level of intellectual necrosis is of the lasting and irreversible type, the odds of any attempt at a cure succeeding has, in my view, about the same chance of success as trying to get Osama Bin Laden and George W Bush to go to a Soho strip club for a Beer and Pork Scratchings ‘Lads Night Out’.

With the odds of success for either scenario, being, as far as I can see, Zero, you can try and convince these ideological bigots with logic and reason if you wish but forgive me if I remain more than just a little skeptical, I believe your valiant attempts will simply fall on deaf ears, ears which have been grafted onto the sides of closed and very disturbed minds.

Time will surely cure some of them, maybe, you never know, but don’t hold your breath.

Biff, I give the the benefit of the doubt and assume that they don’t actually have any beliefs at all, other than fitting in and not being subjected to anything inconvenient. They don’t believe in freedom or anything else for anyone. It’s not that they’d be happy to see England under a dictatorship, its that they’ve never thought through a single principle in their lives and aren’t going to start now. They’re not for or against anything by principle. They’re way too damn stupid for that.

I don’t know why schools don’t turn out sentient principled people anymore, but it’s pretty damn obvious they don’t.

They are not historical forces in the way that industrialism or computing power are.

If you buy into the Marxian dialectic and theory of history than you can coherently believe otherwise, in the way that Christians choose to believe Christ that died for their sins, but in that case, there is no use pretending you aren’t religious.

There’s something a bit confusing going on.”

Senseless, perhaps, but not confusing in the least. Your average Left-”Progressive” today, with many honorable exceptions, is a racist who believes that modernism and universal human rights are for white people. Darkies, because of their skin color, must pursue the politics of racial identity and cultural authenticity.

Me too. I think there are issues that are left and right in of themselves (human rights versus morality, involvement of the state, etc…) but I think the big problem is that left and right are terms we use to fit people into quickly identifiable politics. It is inconceivable to me that some people do not think about issues one at a time rather than as a group of left or right issues. I believe that almost all thinking people will have opinions that will range along the political spectrum. Sometimes, the range will be wide, sometimes it will be narrow, but it will almost never be all in once place.

It brought my blood to a rolling boil, and I believe its full blown reeking repugnance should be dragged back from the obscurity of its end of thread postion because it reflects the same casual dismissal of cultural universalims [What is this PC preoccupation with non-segregation anyway? What does it matter?]
and hard fought values as the other denizens of John Wight’s cesspit.

Note also the vile homophobia, directed at one of the objectors and I assume directed at Douglas Murray, judging from Murray’s reference to homophobic remarks in his own post earlier today. Note, most nauseatingly in the closing words, the blatant eroto-fascism in the adulation of the concept of Islamic macho strength:

Jeffrey Marshall 19 June 2009, 7:09 pm

To a Different Eye Witness:

I was sitting in the main hall downstairs and watched you insisting on invading the women’s section upstairs.

Some of the women who had been sitting there – among others – were pleading with you to leave.

The men around me were complaining that you were ‘ignorant’ and rude and I can only agree. You are extremely bad mannered.

(Others were joking that you were probably a transvestite!)

What is this PC preoccupation with non-segregation anyway? What does it matter?

The bulk of people at that meeting wanted a segregated environment and only a handful of troublemakers, like yourself, refused to go along with it.

My female companion sat upstairs, I sat downstairs. What was the big deal?

We were both sitting near the front so we could ask questions afterwards if we wished.

I have attended segregated meetings with Choudary speaking in the past and found them extremely stimulating.

The contrast between the real men at that meeting and the camp little queer in charge of the hall – closing the meeting down because it was ‘segwegated’ – could not be clearer.

Muslims and Islam are strong. The pussy-whipped PC British are weak.