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	<title>Comments on: Al Muhajiroun: Extremists and Thugs</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356747</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Muslims and Islam are strong. The pussy-whipped PC British are weak&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s why the brave Al Muhajiroun bouncers ran away when the police came to arrest them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Muslims and Islam are strong. The pussy-whipped PC British are weak</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the brave Al Muhajiroun bouncers ran away when the police came to arrest them.</p>
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		<title>By: Andromeda</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356696</link>
		<dc:creator>Andromeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We don&#039;t need a debate&quot; says Sue R.  That sounds rather ominously totalitarian.  

What is an &quot;A-d&quot; groupie, &quot;Me&quot;?  I have been accused of many things, but this one&#039;s new to me.  

I witnessed no physical violence.  At the most you were surrounded by protesting Muslims but then you brought that on yourself by your anti-segregationist fanaticism.

I am still trying to puzzle out why you have a problem with direct democracy and why you say &quot;no more comment is needed&quot;.  

Perhaps your reasoning goes something like this:

Direct democracy is evil because I am evil because I wanted to the debate to go ahead, which was an evil thing to want??!  

My word, the standard of debate is getting better and better with each post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t need a debate&#8221; says Sue R.  That sounds rather ominously totalitarian.  </p>
<p>What is an &#8220;A-d&#8221; groupie, &#8220;Me&#8221;?  I have been accused of many things, but this one&#8217;s new to me.  </p>
<p>I witnessed no physical violence.  At the most you were surrounded by protesting Muslims but then you brought that on yourself by your anti-segregationist fanaticism.</p>
<p>I am still trying to puzzle out why you have a problem with direct democracy and why you say &#8220;no more comment is needed&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Perhaps your reasoning goes something like this:</p>
<p>Direct democracy is evil because I am evil because I wanted to the debate to go ahead, which was an evil thing to want??!  </p>
<p>My word, the standard of debate is getting better and better with each post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Marshall</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356590</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To a Different Eye Witness:

I was sitting in the main hall downstairs and watched you insisting on invading the women’s section upstairs.  

Some of the women who had been sitting there – among others – were pleading with you to leave.  

The men around me were complaining that you were ‘ignorant’ and rude and I can only agree.  You are extremely bad mannered.  

(Others were joking that you were probably a transvestite!)

What is this PC preoccupation with non-segregation anyway?  What does it matter?  

The bulk of people at that meeting wanted a segregated environment and only a handful of troublemakers, like yourself, refused to go along with it.

My female companion sat upstairs, I sat downstairs.  What was the big deal? 

We were both sitting near the front so we could ask questions afterwards if we wished.  

I have attended segregated meetings with Choudary speaking in the past and found them extremely stimulating.

The contrast between the real men at that meeting and the camp little queer in charge of the hall – closing the meeting down because it was ‘segwegated’ - could not be clearer.

Muslims and Islam are strong.  The pussy-whipped PC British are weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To a Different Eye Witness:</p>
<p>I was sitting in the main hall downstairs and watched you insisting on invading the women’s section upstairs.  </p>
<p>Some of the women who had been sitting there – among others – were pleading with you to leave.  </p>
<p>The men around me were complaining that you were ‘ignorant’ and rude and I can only agree.  You are extremely bad mannered.  </p>
<p>(Others were joking that you were probably a transvestite!)</p>
<p>What is this PC preoccupation with non-segregation anyway?  What does it matter?  </p>
<p>The bulk of people at that meeting wanted a segregated environment and only a handful of troublemakers, like yourself, refused to go along with it.</p>
<p>My female companion sat upstairs, I sat downstairs.  What was the big deal? </p>
<p>We were both sitting near the front so we could ask questions afterwards if we wished.  </p>
<p>I have attended segregated meetings with Choudary speaking in the past and found them extremely stimulating.</p>
<p>The contrast between the real men at that meeting and the camp little queer in charge of the hall – closing the meeting down because it was ‘segwegated’ &#8211; could not be clearer.</p>
<p>Muslims and Islam are strong.  The pussy-whipped PC British are weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356570</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Andromeda&#039;s link:

&lt;i&gt;Called ‘direct’ or ‘pure’ democracy, it empowers the population to voice its opinion on specific policy issues, allowing &quot;the greatest happiness of the greatest number&quot; to be expressed.&lt;/i&gt;

No comment needed, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Andromeda&#8217;s link:</p>
<p><i>Called ‘direct’ or ‘pure’ democracy, it empowers the population to voice its opinion on specific policy issues, allowing &#8220;the greatest happiness of the greatest number&#8221; to be expressed.</i></p>
<p>No comment needed, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356567</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To pretend that the women in your group were in some sort of physical danger if they had to sit upstairs is ridiculous, and you know it.&lt;/i&gt;

You need to learn to read (but then, you are an A-d groupie, so this is hardly surprising; how can one admire this antisemitic thug ... it speaks volumes about you). Nobody said the women were in some sort of physical danger if they had to sit upstairs. The physical danger came from the &lt;i&gt;&quot;security people&quot;&lt;/i&gt; who resorted to violence against peaceful visitors making a complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To pretend that the women in your group were in some sort of physical danger if they had to sit upstairs is ridiculous, and you know it.</i></p>
<p>You need to learn to read (but then, you are an A-d groupie, so this is hardly surprising; how can one admire this antisemitic thug &#8230; it speaks volumes about you). Nobody said the women were in some sort of physical danger if they had to sit upstairs. The physical danger came from the <i>&#8220;security people&#8221;</i> who resorted to violence against peaceful visitors making a complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue R</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356546</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is perfectly clear what side of the sharia law or British law, Andromeda is on.  We don&#039;t need a debate.  And yes, actions do speak louder than words. (res ipsa loquitur).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is perfectly clear what side of the sharia law or British law, Andromeda is on.  We don&#8217;t need a debate.  And yes, actions do speak louder than words. (res ipsa loquitur).</p>
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		<title>By: A Different Eye Witness</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356521</link>
		<dc:creator>A Different Eye Witness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adromeda,

Please do not twist what I have said. It was  not me making a fuss about seating arrangements! The seating arrangements of Conway Hall is that anyone can sit anywhere. Al-Muhajiroun put thugs on the door to prevent that. It was them making a fuss, not me.

Now I am done with you and your distortions of the truth. I have nothing more to say to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adromeda,</p>
<p>Please do not twist what I have said. It was  not me making a fuss about seating arrangements! The seating arrangements of Conway Hall is that anyone can sit anywhere. Al-Muhajiroun put thugs on the door to prevent that. It was them making a fuss, not me.</p>
<p>Now I am done with you and your distortions of the truth. I have nothing more to say to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andromeda</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356508</link>
		<dc:creator>Andromeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer your question, ADV, if it was a BNP meeting and I as a &quot;racial foreigner&quot; was compelled to sit upstairs or downstairs or in front or behind, I would accede to their conditions provided I got a good seat in the sense of being able to see or hear the proceedings, if my primary intention was to attend the meeting and hear what they had to say.  

If it was not my primary intention to hear what they had to say, then I would adopt the same tactics that closed the meeting down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your question, ADV, if it was a BNP meeting and I as a &#8220;racial foreigner&#8221; was compelled to sit upstairs or downstairs or in front or behind, I would accede to their conditions provided I got a good seat in the sense of being able to see or hear the proceedings, if my primary intention was to attend the meeting and hear what they had to say.  </p>
<p>If it was not my primary intention to hear what they had to say, then I would adopt the same tactics that closed the meeting down.</p>
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		<title>By: Andromeda</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356502</link>
		<dc:creator>Andromeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are going round and round in circles again and again.  As I have said before, if you wanted to hear the debate then you would have accepted the segregation rules, because doing so meant that the meeting could go ahead.  

If you turned up with the primary intention of making a scene and scoring a point, then you would wish to disrupt and stop the meeting by making a fuss about the seating arrangements.  

I fall into the former category and you, A Different View, fall into the latter category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are going round and round in circles again and again.  As I have said before, if you wanted to hear the debate then you would have accepted the segregation rules, because doing so meant that the meeting could go ahead.  </p>
<p>If you turned up with the primary intention of making a scene and scoring a point, then you would wish to disrupt and stop the meeting by making a fuss about the seating arrangements.  </p>
<p>I fall into the former category and you, A Different View, fall into the latter category.</p>
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		<title>By: A Different Eye Witness</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/17/al-muhajiroun-extremists-and-thugs/comment-page-2/#comment-356480</link>
		<dc:creator>A Different Eye Witness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andromeda,

If &quot;most would have wanted&quot; white people seated downstairs and non white people seated upstairs, would that make it morally acceptable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andromeda,</p>
<p>If &#8220;most would have wanted&#8221; white people seated downstairs and non white people seated upstairs, would that make it morally acceptable?</p>
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