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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;American Friends of the British National Party&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/11/american-friends-of-the-british-national-party/comment-page-1/#comment-354253</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Heritage and Destiny&quot; magazine is not a publication of the British National Party, this is run by the English First Party run by Mark Cotterill who was kicked out of the BNP.

But don&#039;t let facts get in the way of your lies.

http://www.efp.org.uk/page17.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Heritage and Destiny&#8221; magazine is not a publication of the British National Party, this is run by the English First Party run by Mark Cotterill who was kicked out of the BNP.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t let facts get in the way of your lies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.efp.org.uk/page17.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.efp.org.uk/page17.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/11/american-friends-of-the-british-national-party/comment-page-1/#comment-354251</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In 2001, CNN reported that the BNP raised more than $100,000 from the American Friends organisation.&quot;

Talk about twisting the facts.  The BNP DID NOT raise funds from the AFBNP, the AFBNP raised funds independently of the BNP.  If you and Charles continue to spread lies and slander then prepare to face legal action.

The AFBNP were created by Cotterill in the USA to help the BNP, this was not created by the British National Party.
Cotterill was kicked out of the BNP and the AFBNP disbanded in 2001 when Cotterill was deported from the USA.
The BNP have gone on the record denouncing cotterill and his views in 2001.

 VonBrunn has absolutely nothing to do with the BNP, the British National Party operate in the UK only and cannot, it&#039;s impossible, to stop local American nutters from attending fund raising events in another country.

Lastly, please keep your American psychopaths away from British Nationalism as we are sick and tired of so called white supremacists, survivalists and your white trash from polluting our democratic, legal political system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In 2001, CNN reported that the BNP raised more than $100,000 from the American Friends organisation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Talk about twisting the facts.  The BNP DID NOT raise funds from the AFBNP, the AFBNP raised funds independently of the BNP.  If you and Charles continue to spread lies and slander then prepare to face legal action.</p>
<p>The AFBNP were created by Cotterill in the USA to help the BNP, this was not created by the British National Party.<br />
Cotterill was kicked out of the BNP and the AFBNP disbanded in 2001 when Cotterill was deported from the USA.<br />
The BNP have gone on the record denouncing cotterill and his views in 2001.</p>
<p> VonBrunn has absolutely nothing to do with the BNP, the British National Party operate in the UK only and cannot, it&#8217;s impossible, to stop local American nutters from attending fund raising events in another country.</p>
<p>Lastly, please keep your American psychopaths away from British Nationalism as we are sick and tired of so called white supremacists, survivalists and your white trash from polluting our democratic, legal political system.</p>
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		<title>By: Johng elsewhere (especially the lowest remarks)</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/11/american-friends-of-the-british-national-party/comment-page-1/#comment-354017</link>
		<dc:creator>Johng elsewhere (especially the lowest remarks)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of this is also an argument about racism is. You are saying its an opinion. I&#039;m saying its a threat. I would say by treating it as an opinion just like any other your already conceding half the argument. Of course I don&#039;t mind if someone wanders around muttering vile obscenities under their breath. People are welcome to do it in private. Not in public spaces though. I&#039;m not in favour of allowing people to be threatened and intimidated and frightened on the street in an organised way. At least not without having the right to frighten them righht back.
johng &#124; 11 Jun, 18:48 &#124; # 

Again racism is not an &#039;idea&#039; and it is not therefore open to the power of &#039;logic&#039;.
johng &#124; 11 Jun, 18:49 &#124; # 

But the fascists have to be fought. And we need as many forces involved as possible. Part of what we stand for is a tradition of understanding why fascism must be confronted. And part of what we stand for is a tradition of understanding the importance of unity in fighting fascism. Hence the United Front against Fascism.
johng &#124; 11 Jun, 23:40 &#124; #

You be complacent Mike. After all your Party has been (has been in every sense of the word). yeah but wedge you throw in all these hidious stereotypes about the left which make it difficult for people to keep their temper.Particularly when you won&#039;t acknowledge direct rebuttals, even to disagree with them, but just carry on regardless: I&#039;m thinking in particular of the repeated canard that we gave &#039;Griffin publicity&#039; which Lenin has on two occassions rebutted. I think its better that he had to slink away then that he got half an hour being treated like a normal human being: what do you think?
johng &#124; 12 Jun, 00:33 &#124; # 

Yes typewriter kittens. My only problem was the idea that we stand alone making our points and everyone comes to join us. I think we do need to make alliances with people, and these alliances will involve their principles as well as ours.
johng &#124; 12 Jun, 00:23 &#124; # 

well how wide do you want the net to be Wedge? The letter does not exclude anyone at all.
johng &#124; 12 Jun, 00:51 &#124; # 

Excellent piece Lenin.

It baffles me why so many on the left are so concerned for the rights of Griffin et al, even going so far as to publicly criticise the UAF&#039;s actions.

I just can&#039;t see the left &#039;uniting&#039; around this issue at all.
Tiberius Leodis &#124; Homepage &#124; 12 Jun, 02:16 &#124; # 

I get the impression that they are New Labour left haters of HP variety. What is so odd is that, outside their own minds, there has been no backlash at all.
johng &#124; 12 Jun, 02:55 &#124; #  

http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/06/look-who-wants-free-speech.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of this is also an argument about racism is. You are saying its an opinion. I&#8217;m saying its a threat. I would say by treating it as an opinion just like any other your already conceding half the argument. Of course I don&#8217;t mind if someone wanders around muttering vile obscenities under their breath. People are welcome to do it in private. Not in public spaces though. I&#8217;m not in favour of allowing people to be threatened and intimidated and frightened on the street in an organised way. At least not without having the right to frighten them righht back.<br />
johng | 11 Jun, 18:48 | # </p>
<p>Again racism is not an &#8216;idea&#8217; and it is not therefore open to the power of &#8216;logic&#8217;.<br />
johng | 11 Jun, 18:49 | # </p>
<p>But the fascists have to be fought. And we need as many forces involved as possible. Part of what we stand for is a tradition of understanding why fascism must be confronted. And part of what we stand for is a tradition of understanding the importance of unity in fighting fascism. Hence the United Front against Fascism.<br />
johng | 11 Jun, 23:40 | #</p>
<p>You be complacent Mike. After all your Party has been (has been in every sense of the word). yeah but wedge you throw in all these hidious stereotypes about the left which make it difficult for people to keep their temper.Particularly when you won&#8217;t acknowledge direct rebuttals, even to disagree with them, but just carry on regardless: I&#8217;m thinking in particular of the repeated canard that we gave &#8216;Griffin publicity&#8217; which Lenin has on two occassions rebutted. I think its better that he had to slink away then that he got half an hour being treated like a normal human being: what do you think?<br />
johng | 12 Jun, 00:33 | # </p>
<p>Yes typewriter kittens. My only problem was the idea that we stand alone making our points and everyone comes to join us. I think we do need to make alliances with people, and these alliances will involve their principles as well as ours.<br />
johng | 12 Jun, 00:23 | # </p>
<p>well how wide do you want the net to be Wedge? The letter does not exclude anyone at all.<br />
johng | 12 Jun, 00:51 | # </p>
<p>Excellent piece Lenin.</p>
<p>It baffles me why so many on the left are so concerned for the rights of Griffin et al, even going so far as to publicly criticise the UAF&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t see the left &#8216;uniting&#8217; around this issue at all.<br />
Tiberius Leodis | Homepage | 12 Jun, 02:16 | # </p>
<p>I get the impression that they are New Labour left haters of HP variety. What is so odd is that, outside their own minds, there has been no backlash at all.<br />
johng | 12 Jun, 02:55 | #  </p>
<p><a href="http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/06/look-who-wants-free-speech.html" rel="nofollow">http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/06/look-who-wants-free-speech.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Aren’t there rules about british parties accepting foreign donations?&quot;

It&#039;s perfectly within the law if the donation is limited to £200 per individual donation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Aren’t there rules about british parties accepting foreign donations?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s perfectly within the law if the donation is limited to £200 per individual donation.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/11/american-friends-of-the-british-national-party/comment-page-1/#comment-353731</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise about von Brunn. Look here:

Registered Democrat (needs confirmation)
Christian hater
Jew Hater
FOX News’ O&#039;Reilly hater
Weekly Standard hater
Bush hater
Neo-con hater
9-11 was an inside job nut
Socialist
artist
Stated that “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”
Stated that the Apostle Paul destroyed Rome by undermining its pagan virility.
Hated corporations

Just another Nazi nutcase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise about von Brunn. Look here:</p>
<p>Registered Democrat (needs confirmation)<br />
Christian hater<br />
Jew Hater<br />
FOX News’ O&#8217;Reilly hater<br />
Weekly Standard hater<br />
Bush hater<br />
Neo-con hater<br />
9-11 was an inside job nut<br />
Socialist<br />
artist<br />
Stated that “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”<br />
Stated that the Apostle Paul destroyed Rome by undermining its pagan virility.<br />
Hated corporations</p>
<p>Just another Nazi nutcase.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockall666</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rockall666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec is thinking of the American Friends Service Committee and Friends of the British National Party, an ugly mouthful of an amalgamation like SmithKlineBeecham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec is thinking of the American Friends Service Committee and Friends of the British National Party, an ugly mouthful of an amalgamation like SmithKlineBeecham.</p>
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		<title>By: modernityblog</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/11/american-friends-of-the-british-national-party/comment-page-1/#comment-353592</link>
		<dc:creator>modernityblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyways, readers with a long memory will remember David Duke, one-time grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, and new best buddy of that fine hero of many &quot;anti-imperialists&quot; the Iranian Prez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met in December 2006.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;SNOW (voice-over): Meet Iran&#039;s new American friend -- David Duke, the former politician and ex-grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He&#039;s applauding Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for assembling a conference of Holocaust deniers. Duke says it&#039;s all about free speech. Many see it another way, with one headline in the U.S. reading: &quot;Cringing At Iran Kookfest.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/13/sitroom.01.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyways, readers with a long memory will remember David Duke, one-time grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, and new best buddy of that fine hero of many &#8220;anti-imperialists&#8221; the Iranian Prez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met in December 2006.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;SNOW (voice-over): Meet Iran&#8217;s new American friend &#8212; David Duke, the former politician and ex-grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He&#8217;s applauding Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for assembling a conference of Holocaust deniers. Duke says it&#8217;s all about free speech. Many see it another way, with one headline in the U.S. reading: &#8220;Cringing At Iran Kookfest.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/13/sitroom.01.html" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/13/sitroom.01.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mesquito</title>
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		<dc:creator>mesquito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they&#039;d found the magazine&#039;s address

A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit , also declined to comment on the investigation.

Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Standard_may_have_been_shooter_target.html?showall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they&#8217;d found the magazine&#8217;s address</p>
<p>A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit , also declined to comment on the investigation.</p>
<p>Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Standard_may_have_been_shooter_target.html?showall" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Standard_may_have_been_shooter_target.html?showall</a></p>
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		<title>By: kmag</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Cotterill’s first attempt at “entryism” came in 1992 when he joined Britain’s Conservative party, comparable in views and stature to the U.S. Republican Party&lt;/i&gt;

You and the person who wrote this are full of shit, ModernityBlogNutJob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Cotterill’s first attempt at “entryism” came in 1992 when he joined Britain’s Conservative party, comparable in views and stature to the U.S. Republican Party</i></p>
<p>You and the person who wrote this are full of shit, ModernityBlogNutJob.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockall666</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/11/american-friends-of-the-british-national-party/comment-page-1/#comment-353580</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockall666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are intermittently recurrent rumours that there was Saudi funding for the Tories in John Major&#039;s time, just as there was Saudi funding for the Republicans in Nixon&#039;s day.

Possibly all lies, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are intermittently recurrent rumours that there was Saudi funding for the Tories in John Major&#8217;s time, just as there was Saudi funding for the Republicans in Nixon&#8217;s day.</p>
<p>Possibly all lies, of course.</p>
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