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I think there is nothing at all strange in Green.

i have allways argued that the Policy of Multicultualism is nothing other than the liberal strand of Imperialism 9prototypically that of the Raj) come home.

johng is a product of this as in her way Carol Churchill.

It is allways crucial to know the lives of the parents and grandparents and their role in Empire to understand modern day anti-imperialists.

At the very least we see that their so called third world concerns are allways for former British colonies .

Hence Timor leste gets less traction than Zimbabwe and Hizb’ullah are given a free ride unthinkable in France.

As for why Monty is surprised well it must be difficult for him to realise that a white man can sound like this.

But Monty strip Green of his colour and he is a reactionary Islamist.

The English home counties upper middle version of him (his background in fact) version of his views is to convert to Rome because of the ordination of women and in the company of men after the women have retired, or at his Gentleman’s club he would lament the granting of the vote to women.

Their conversation would then move on to the state of the Tory party and how the traitor cameron has given in to the ‘half breeds’, and that the down fall of powell had been to say what everyone knewwas true.

green is a subaltern version of Wilfred Thessiger, who I once met the epitome of the Upper Class Englishman democracy loathing liberal hating pro-capital punishment he remained bi-cultural as a reactionary Brit and a reactionary Arab perfectly at home in both cultures nothing multi-cultural about him.

He would have regarded multiculturalism as more wretched hybridity for the right wing colonial the ‘half breed’ was the worst thing imaginable and a man gone native (that is to no longer keep two distinct cultures seperate in ones mind and life) a ‘half breed’ a renegade to be shot like a mangy pariah dog.

It is all a bit more weird than those Merchant Ivory films. A lot of the ‘colonials’ who were born and brought up in far away places often adopted the ways and language of the place. This was commonly called ‘going native’. The really bad types were the ones I met in the south of England who came home after de-colonisation in the late fifties. They were so strange, like “English” people in Hollywood films. Utterly repellent but strange and, what is obvious now, people who had been promoted by their skin pigmentation into a layer of the ruling elite they did not in fact have the necessary credentials for. Orwell, himself sprang from his group, and he is good on this subject.

It was a mixed bunch. Kipling, Orwell, Spike Milligan, and now Green. And what about the daughters of Empire?

Gavin Green CBE was “colonial administrator” [sic] in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Anthony “Abdur Raheem” Green was born there in 1964.

Does anyone know where abouts in Africa his father was?

cobblers, extremist anything attracts nutters like this.

An group of Israeli psychologists led by Eliezer Witztum at the Hebrew University did a study, I think in the late 80s, on Ba’aleh Teshuvim – those who returned to ultra-orthodox Judaism – in Israel, and the findings were that a significant number of those did so after having experienced mental health trauma of some kind.

Extremism attracts such people because they are in chaos – this is zeroed in on and exacerbated, and the extremist religion is offered as a panacea for that.

Of course it isn’t and cannot be since the problem is located within the individual, and this may be where cognitive dissonance, and the attempt on the part of the new convert to achieve consonance, may come in. The dissonance causes great discomfort for the new convert – s/he has burned all boats to join the religion and in the case of Islam is forbidden to leave, and even if the person were allowed to leave s/he would risk looking foolish.

Therefore in some cases the convert may try to “out-Herod Herod” by being more devout than all the others to convince him/herself that the correct decision was made and the equivalent of saying, that “there is no advocate of virginity like a reformed whore” has a substantial ring of truth here. In the case of Islam, this over enthusiasm may be battened onto and in some cases made use of by turning such a person into a suicide or other type of terrorist.

Conversely, if the convert’s devoutness is open to doubt, then he/she may be ordered to prove him/herself by volunteering for terrorist acts.

I must say however, that, if I may say so, your talented time might be better spent on other messengers of the true Prophet.

I would imagine that most potential ‘freedom fighters’ in any crowd that gathers about him would regard this one as a lunatic joker rather than a serious promoter of Islamic debate on living as a Muslim.

In religious Judaism, converts can only marry other converts. The ‘handlers’ know that the material in their hands is ‘wobbly’. ‘Unstable’. Ain’t got both feet on the ground.

Whatever.

Muslim ‘handlers’ know it too.

This is born out by the high percentage of ‘converts’ amongst Western Muslim ‘freedom fighters’.

After her husband Henry Luce, proprietor of Time and Life magazines, helped Eisenhower to be elected President of the United States of America, Claire Boothe Luce became the U.S.A.’s ambassador to the Vatican. A convert to Roman Catholicism, her ardour for her faith was apt to be intense; so much so, that Pope Pius XII was once heard to respond to her advice defensively “My dear Mrs Henry Luce, I am a Catholic”.

Oh, well. Give a fool enough rope. I thought he struggled a bit with the man who asked about why observant Moslems were killing each other and Green’s remark that Pakistan was not Islamic enough a bit of a slap in the face for the boys. Aren’t they trying? Have you seen those car bombs?

Excellent post, Habibi!

People who are sociopathic in nature, may be more inclined to convert to islam. Many conversions happen among convicts in western prison systems.

I think there’s much truth in this; Islam is intrinsically sociopathic, so gives those with any hint of those tendencies, full rein…so it tends to attract these types. I go further, there is plenty of strong evidence to suggest that Islam is a toxic enough religious political World view to make de facto sociopaths of those who otherwise would be quite normal….that’s what’s especially creepy about it. Like much else it shares this with Nazism.