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	<title>Comments on: Stephen Sizer accuses Evangelicals Now of equivalent to Holocaust Denial</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Seismic Shock</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/07/stephen-sizer-accuses-evangelicals-now-of-equivalent-to-holocaust-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-352020</link>
		<dc:creator>Seismic Shock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dooley &amp; Roley Poley Dahl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dooley &amp; Roley Poley Dahl</p>
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		<title>By: Dooley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Seismic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Seismic</p>
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		<title>By: armaros</title>
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		<dc:creator>armaros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben White has been peddling Sizer on Cif to such a degree that Sizer should go after him for plagiarism. Needless to say, White wraps up Sizers antisemitic idiocy into his leftist narrative and Hamas rationalization. 

Two real pieces of work for sure. One ranting antisemite and another thieving ranting antisemite. 

Ahmedinegad of course re-iterated his Holocaust denial as supposedly he was irked by the Ben White/ Juan Cole types who wanted to conceal it for him. The scruffy one wants to wear it on his sleaves.
He repeated that the Holocaust was a deception. I cannot wait for the usual suspects explaining this, which they will try..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iran

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2009/06/03/01011-20090603FILWWW00524-ahmadinejadshoah-sarkozy-condamne.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben White has been peddling Sizer on Cif to such a degree that Sizer should go after him for plagiarism. Needless to say, White wraps up Sizers antisemitic idiocy into his leftist narrative and Hamas rationalization. </p>
<p>Two real pieces of work for sure. One ranting antisemite and another thieving ranting antisemite. </p>
<p>Ahmedinegad of course re-iterated his Holocaust denial as supposedly he was irked by the Ben White/ Juan Cole types who wanted to conceal it for him. The scruffy one wants to wear it on his sleaves.<br />
He repeated that the Holocaust was a deception. I cannot wait for the usual suspects explaining this, which they will try..</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iran" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_iran</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2009/06/03/01011-20090603FILWWW00524-ahmadinejadshoah-sarkozy-condamne.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2009/06/03/01011-20090603FILWWW00524-ahmadinejadshoah-sarkozy-condamne.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: failed law student</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/07/stephen-sizer-accuses-evangelicals-now-of-equivalent-to-holocaust-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-351666</link>
		<dc:creator>failed law student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the review last month. It did seem a bit &#039;out of place&#039; to be honest, and certainly not the kind of book the paper usually reviews at all (I am a long time subscriber).

Nonetheless, the review was fair, and Dr Sizer&#039;s triggerhappy whinging is embarassing to me as a christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the review last month. It did seem a bit &#8216;out of place&#8217; to be honest, and certainly not the kind of book the paper usually reviews at all (I am a long time subscriber).</p>
<p>Nonetheless, the review was fair, and Dr Sizer&#8217;s triggerhappy whinging is embarassing to me as a christian.</p>
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		<title>By: John P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a word on a few of the Catholic traditionalists like Fr Michael Crowdy.

Those who revolt against Vatican II often do so because they beleive it is a jewish conspiracy to delegitimise Catholicism or Christianity. Guys like Crowdy (deceased 2006) have never come out and directly said so, but so much in their views hint at that.

That said, don&#039;t think everyone who attends a latin mass holds those views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a word on a few of the Catholic traditionalists like Fr Michael Crowdy.</p>
<p>Those who revolt against Vatican II often do so because they beleive it is a jewish conspiracy to delegitimise Catholicism or Christianity. Guys like Crowdy (deceased 2006) have never come out and directly said so, but so much in their views hint at that.</p>
<p>That said, don&#8217;t think everyone who attends a latin mass holds those views.</p>
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		<title>By: Roley Poley Dahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roley Poley Dahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Seismic Shock for drawing our attention to Sizer&#039;s continuing weirdly nefarious activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Seismic Shock for drawing our attention to Sizer&#8217;s continuing weirdly nefarious activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If a Tory politician started to defend Nick Griffin, or approvingly recommend a racist work about the supposed inferiority of black people you would be calling ‘unfair’ or ‘guilt by association’&quot;

Exactly. There are times when guilt by association is ridiculous (see Obama and Ayres) but sharing a platform with someone means something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a Tory politician started to defend Nick Griffin, or approvingly recommend a racist work about the supposed inferiority of black people you would be calling ‘unfair’ or ‘guilt by association’&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. There are times when guilt by association is ridiculous (see Obama and Ayres) but sharing a platform with someone means something.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Camel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Camel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is strange to find a book by a Jewish author about the Palestinian Nakba reviewed in an evangelical paper.&lt;/i&gt;

A curious comment, coming from an Anglican vicar. A boomerang argument, since ot is no less strange to find the vicar of Virginia Water, who seems to be a throroughly nasty piece of work, spouting his own poisonous propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is strange to find a book by a Jewish author about the Palestinian Nakba reviewed in an evangelical paper.</i></p>
<p>A curious comment, coming from an Anglican vicar. A boomerang argument, since ot is no less strange to find the vicar of Virginia Water, who seems to be a throroughly nasty piece of work, spouting his own poisonous propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Seismic Shock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seismic Shock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What concerns me particularly is that anti-Judaic writers (Hoffman, Crowley, Shamir, etcs) who are associating themselves with white power theology and Holocaust denial would never get a serious hearing through the BNP&#039;s Robert West, because almost everyone recognises him as a fascist.

But if the exact same writers get a hearing through respected academics, surely we should pay attention. Academics are considered experts in their field and their words are trusted, as are Anglican vicars. For these reasons, it is important that normal people understand who is quoting who here.

It concerns me that the most hateful strand of modern Christian anti-Judaism is given respectability in certain elements of liberal academic Christian anti-Zionism. 

If the theology is the same, one wonders whether it even matters what Israel does - her very existence is a problem to these theologians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What concerns me particularly is that anti-Judaic writers (Hoffman, Crowley, Shamir, etcs) who are associating themselves with white power theology and Holocaust denial would never get a serious hearing through the BNP&#8217;s Robert West, because almost everyone recognises him as a fascist.</p>
<p>But if the exact same writers get a hearing through respected academics, surely we should pay attention. Academics are considered experts in their field and their words are trusted, as are Anglican vicars. For these reasons, it is important that normal people understand who is quoting who here.</p>
<p>It concerns me that the most hateful strand of modern Christian anti-Judaism is given respectability in certain elements of liberal academic Christian anti-Zionism. </p>
<p>If the theology is the same, one wonders whether it even matters what Israel does &#8211; her very existence is a problem to these theologians.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Guilt by association is a dreadful thing. &lt;/I&gt;

Guilt by association is not a bad thing at all.

If somebody appears alongside with a Nazi, or recommends their views, or defends them from charges of racist, that tells you a lot about that person.

If a Tory politician started to defend Nick Griffin, or approvingly recommend a racist work about the supposed inferiority of black people you would be calling &#039;unfair&#039; or &#039;guilt by association&#039;

Would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Guilt by association is a dreadful thing. </i></p>
<p>Guilt by association is not a bad thing at all.</p>
<p>If somebody appears alongside with a Nazi, or recommends their views, or defends them from charges of racist, that tells you a lot about that person.</p>
<p>If a Tory politician started to defend Nick Griffin, or approvingly recommend a racist work about the supposed inferiority of black people you would be calling &#8216;unfair&#8217; or &#8216;guilt by association&#8217;</p>
<p>Would you?</p>
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