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	<title>Comments on: Immigration and Asylum policies fail torture victims</title>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-352128</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it too much to ask for asylum policy to have something of the spirit of Jesus&#039; remark &quot;that what you did to the least among you, you did to me&quot;?

Oh, and do I need to repeat Jesus&#039; story answering the question: &quot;Who is my neighbor?&quot;
That was the one concerning a Samartian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too much to ask for asylum policy to have something of the spirit of Jesus&#8217; remark &#8220;that what you did to the least among you, you did to me&#8221;?</p>
<p>Oh, and do I need to repeat Jesus&#8217; story answering the question: &#8220;Who is my neighbor?&#8221;<br />
That was the one concerning a Samartian.</p>
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		<title>By: mettaculture</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-351656</link>
		<dc:creator>mettaculture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post at 2:05 is held in moderation that&#039;s just silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post at 2:05 is held in moderation that&#8217;s just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Yarbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yarbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I present Exhibit A, m&#039;lud

&lt;em&gt;Predictions suggest that population will stabilise later this century and then begin to fall.&lt;/em&gt;

According to the graph on p.13 of the .pdf linked to, only 1 of the 3 scenarios envisages population decline.  Indeed, one of the scenarios forecasts the global population to reach 36 billion by 2300.  The principle &#039;medium&#039; scenario also forecasts a rising global population.

The &#039;evidence&#039; you provided for your assertion of &#039;global population decline&#039; is less than conclusive; indeed, on balance it contradicts your assertion.  Nonetheless, I appreciate the gesture.

Could you provide further evidence for your additional claim that:

&lt;em&gt;Plenty of people work in this area and virtually none suggest exponential growth. Not least because the growth rate in human population has been declining since the 1960s.&lt;/em&gt;

_ _ _ _ _

&lt;em&gt;I had thought this sort of knowledge was fairly widespread, but clearly the ultra right have been sticking their head in the sand, or - more likely - choosing to deliberately ignore inconvenient facts so they can promote their ugly politics based on fear.&lt;/em&gt;

Who are the &#039;ultra right&#039;, Ben?  Is this your coinage?

Incidentally, in spite of the flawed evidence you produce (so flawed that it contradicts your original assertion), the document says almost nothing about proposed migration trends, and yet this is what most likely concerns those commenters advocating a more robust asylum and immigration system.

You seem to be ignoring &#039;inconvenient facts&#039; by making claims that are either not proven or, on balance, less likely to come true given the alternative scenarios.

&lt;em&gt;“Racialist”, yarbles? That word is exactly like the word “Moslem”, and has similar loaded connotations.&lt;/em&gt;

No, it doesn&#039;t. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism

The word &#039;racialism&#039; has obtained amongst those of a certain generation and social scientists, to say nothing of those who, falling outside of these two categories, have appropriated the term in much the same way as any other abstract lexical item.

And you won&#039;t find me using the spelling &#039;Moslem&#039;, which, whether it has negative connotations or not, is a totally separate matter; far-removed from the substantive discussion at hand. 

&lt;em&gt;You know what I’m saying, you prick. It is *disgusting* that you and your ilk are allowed to post here.&lt;/em&gt;

And just who *are* my &#039;ilk&#039;?  The Tourette&#039;s seems to be kicking in again: did you follow my prescription for &#039;simmering down&#039;?

&lt;em&gt;I have consistently sought to bring context to this ugly discussion,&lt;/em&gt;

Surely you jest?  &#039;Context&#039;?  All you seem to have brought to the &#039;discussion&#039; (please let me know when it begins and I&#039;ll be happy to add my 3s 6d) is foul language and uncorroborated hearsay.  Even your latest attempt at &#039;evidence&#039; has been exposed as hollow; worthy of the sort of unsubstantiated allegations frequently thrown by people in glass houses.

&lt;em&gt;and your ilk have offered nothing more than “home spun wisdom”.&lt;/em&gt;

I appreciate that having a civilised discussion without descending into a torrent of obscenities might be difficult for you, but might I be so bold as to suggest that you give it a go?

For the record, there&#039;s nothing wrong with &#039;homespun wisdom&#039;, as you call it.  It&#039;s only when commenters or posters make unverifiable assertions and insult other commenters that &#039;facts&#039; somehow morph into what you pejoratively describe as &#039;homespun wisdom&#039;.

&lt;em&gt;And yet you have the gall to suggest the opposite.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes. T&#039;is rather galling, is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I present Exhibit A, m&#8217;lud</p>
<p><em>Predictions suggest that population will stabilise later this century and then begin to fall.</em></p>
<p>According to the graph on p.13 of the .pdf linked to, only 1 of the 3 scenarios envisages population decline.  Indeed, one of the scenarios forecasts the global population to reach 36 billion by 2300.  The principle &#8216;medium&#8217; scenario also forecasts a rising global population.</p>
<p>The &#8216;evidence&#8217; you provided for your assertion of &#8216;global population decline&#8217; is less than conclusive; indeed, on balance it contradicts your assertion.  Nonetheless, I appreciate the gesture.</p>
<p>Could you provide further evidence for your additional claim that:</p>
<p><em>Plenty of people work in this area and virtually none suggest exponential growth. Not least because the growth rate in human population has been declining since the 1960s.</em></p>
<p>_ _ _ _ _</p>
<p><em>I had thought this sort of knowledge was fairly widespread, but clearly the ultra right have been sticking their head in the sand, or &#8211; more likely &#8211; choosing to deliberately ignore inconvenient facts so they can promote their ugly politics based on fear.</em></p>
<p>Who are the &#8216;ultra right&#8217;, Ben?  Is this your coinage?</p>
<p>Incidentally, in spite of the flawed evidence you produce (so flawed that it contradicts your original assertion), the document says almost nothing about proposed migration trends, and yet this is what most likely concerns those commenters advocating a more robust asylum and immigration system.</p>
<p>You seem to be ignoring &#8216;inconvenient facts&#8217; by making claims that are either not proven or, on balance, less likely to come true given the alternative scenarios.</p>
<p><em>“Racialist”, yarbles? That word is exactly like the word “Moslem”, and has similar loaded connotations.</em></p>
<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism</a></p>
<p>The word &#8216;racialism&#8217; has obtained amongst those of a certain generation and social scientists, to say nothing of those who, falling outside of these two categories, have appropriated the term in much the same way as any other abstract lexical item.</p>
<p>And you won&#8217;t find me using the spelling &#8216;Moslem&#8217;, which, whether it has negative connotations or not, is a totally separate matter; far-removed from the substantive discussion at hand. </p>
<p><em>You know what I’m saying, you prick. It is *disgusting* that you and your ilk are allowed to post here.</em></p>
<p>And just who *are* my &#8216;ilk&#8217;?  The Tourette&#8217;s seems to be kicking in again: did you follow my prescription for &#8217;simmering down&#8217;?</p>
<p><em>I have consistently sought to bring context to this ugly discussion,</em></p>
<p>Surely you jest?  &#8216;Context&#8217;?  All you seem to have brought to the &#8216;discussion&#8217; (please let me know when it begins and I&#8217;ll be happy to add my 3s 6d) is foul language and uncorroborated hearsay.  Even your latest attempt at &#8216;evidence&#8217; has been exposed as hollow; worthy of the sort of unsubstantiated allegations frequently thrown by people in glass houses.</p>
<p><em>and your ilk have offered nothing more than “home spun wisdom”.</em></p>
<p>I appreciate that having a civilised discussion without descending into a torrent of obscenities might be difficult for you, but might I be so bold as to suggest that you give it a go?</p>
<p>For the record, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with &#8216;homespun wisdom&#8217;, as you call it.  It&#8217;s only when commenters or posters make unverifiable assertions and insult other commenters that &#8216;facts&#8217; somehow morph into what you pejoratively describe as &#8216;homespun wisdom&#8217;.</p>
<p><em>And yet you have the gall to suggest the opposite.</em></p>
<p>Yes. T&#8217;is rather galling, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: mettaculture</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-351654</link>
		<dc:creator>mettaculture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cipriano

You are not up to date posession of Rocckall matters not a jot to claims over the sea bed.

Law of the Sea

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea states, 

“Rocks which cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.” 

Ireland, Denmark, and Iceland all acceded to the convention. 

The United Kingdom acceded to the convention on 25 July 1997. 

The United Kingdom and Ireland have agreed to a delineation which ignores Rockall&#039;s existence and have granted exploration rights.

[ibid]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cipriano</p>
<p>You are not up to date posession of Rocckall matters not a jot to claims over the sea bed.</p>
<p>Law of the Sea</p>
<p>The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea states, </p>
<p>“Rocks which cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no exclusive economic zone or continental shelf.” </p>
<p>Ireland, Denmark, and Iceland all acceded to the convention. </p>
<p>The United Kingdom acceded to the convention on 25 July 1997. </p>
<p>The United Kingdom and Ireland have agreed to a delineation which ignores Rockall&#8217;s existence and have granted exploration rights.</p>
<p>[ibid]</p>
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		<title>By: Cipriano</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-351638</link>
		<dc:creator>Cipriano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But actually no further meetings are necessary! In 1972 Rockall was formally claimed for Mer Majesty the Queen, Gawd bless &#039;er, by Act of Parliament:

&quot;The Island of Rockall Act 1972 (1972 c. 2) is a UK Act of Parliament formally annexing Rockall in its entirety to protect it from Irish and Icelandic claims. The Act asserts that the Island of Rockall, was part of the Scottish county of Inverness-shire.

The long title of the Act is &quot;An Act to make provision for the incorporation of that part of Her Majesty&#039;s Dominions known as the Island of Rockall into that part of the United Kingdom known as Scotland, and for purposes connected therewith&quot;.

The entire Act consists of a single effective section, which reads, &quot;As from the date of the passing of this Act, the Island of Rockall (of which possession was formally taken in the name of Her Majesty on 18th September 1955 in pursuance of a Royal Warrant dated 14th September 1955 addressed to the Captain of Her Majesty&#039;s Ship Vidal) shall be incorporated into that part of the United Kingdom known as Scotland and shall form part of the District of Harris in the County of Inverness, and the law of Scotland shall apply accordingly.&quot; It was amended by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 to transfer administrative control to the Western Isles Council when Inverness-shire was abolished.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But actually no further meetings are necessary! In 1972 Rockall was formally claimed for Mer Majesty the Queen, Gawd bless &#8216;er, by Act of Parliament:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Island of Rockall Act 1972 (1972 c. 2) is a UK Act of Parliament formally annexing Rockall in its entirety to protect it from Irish and Icelandic claims. The Act asserts that the Island of Rockall, was part of the Scottish county of Inverness-shire.</p>
<p>The long title of the Act is &#8220;An Act to make provision for the incorporation of that part of Her Majesty&#8217;s Dominions known as the Island of Rockall into that part of the United Kingdom known as Scotland, and for purposes connected therewith&#8221;.</p>
<p>The entire Act consists of a single effective section, which reads, &#8220;As from the date of the passing of this Act, the Island of Rockall (of which possession was formally taken in the name of Her Majesty on 18th September 1955 in pursuance of a Royal Warrant dated 14th September 1955 addressed to the Captain of Her Majesty&#8217;s Ship Vidal) shall be incorporated into that part of the United Kingdom known as Scotland and shall form part of the District of Harris in the County of Inverness, and the law of Scotland shall apply accordingly.&#8221; It was amended by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 to transfer administrative control to the Western Isles Council when Inverness-shire was abolished.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cipriano</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-351637</link>
		<dc:creator>Cipriano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A meeting between the countries involved (the United Kingdom, Denmark (for the Faroe Islands), Ireland and Iceland), is scheduled for May 2009.&quot;

Well, in that case, it&#039;s running a bit late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A meeting between the countries involved (the United Kingdom, Denmark (for the Faroe Islands), Ireland and Iceland), is scheduled for May 2009.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in that case, it&#8217;s running a bit late.</p>
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		<title>By: mettaculture</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-351634</link>
		<dc:creator>mettaculture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melvyn.  I dont who Rockall666 is but this is what his moniker represents;
Rockall is a small, uninhabited, rocky islet in the north Atlantic Ocean. It gives its name to one of the sea areas named in the Shipping Forecast, provided by the British Meteorological Office. It could be, in James Fisher&#039;s words, &quot;the most isolated small rock in the oceans of the world&quot;.[1]
The ownership of Rockall is disputed as are the exploration and fishing rights on the Rockall Bank. A meeting between the countries involved (the United Kingdom, Denmark (for the Faroe Islands), Ireland and Iceland), is scheduled for May 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall

666 is the number of the Beast of Revelations and Hollywood spooky movies.

Spooky huh!


I have a strong suspician that he is the former bete noir of this site WJ Philips returned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melvyn.  I dont who Rockall666 is but this is what his moniker represents;<br />
Rockall is a small, uninhabited, rocky islet in the north Atlantic Ocean. It gives its name to one of the sea areas named in the Shipping Forecast, provided by the British Meteorological Office. It could be, in James Fisher&#8217;s words, &#8220;the most isolated small rock in the oceans of the world&#8221;.[1]<br />
The ownership of Rockall is disputed as are the exploration and fishing rights on the Rockall Bank. A meeting between the countries involved (the United Kingdom, Denmark (for the Faroe Islands), Ireland and Iceland), is scheduled for May 2009.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall</a></p>
<p>666 is the number of the Beast of Revelations and Hollywood spooky movies.</p>
<p>Spooky huh!</p>
<p>I have a strong suspician that he is the former bete noir of this site WJ Philips returned.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockall666</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/06/06/immigration-and-asylum-policies-fail-torture-victims/comment-page-2/#comment-351632</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockall666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we get something straight before accusing people of the dreadful crime of being that unspeakable person, a &#039;racist&#039;?

A person loves his or her children because they are his or hers. Right?

Of course, other people&#039;s children may be smarter, better-looking or even better behaved but I love my children because they are mine. I prefer their company to the company of your children, however adorable YOUR children might be.

And I certainly don&#039;t want YOUR children crowding into MY children&#039;s playroom without being specifically invited. Is that clear enough?

Is that enough to win me an Enoch Powell award, to be presented in public by Shahid Malik, the Martyr King, or perhaps by the Aden-born Keith Vaz?

Do please make an effort to read Robert Putnam on the malign effect multiculturalism has had on community cohesion and trust. In one case study after another Putnam found that trust and community cohesion diminished markedly in accordance with how diverse a society is. 

In a society as diverse as Southall Market or Brixton Magistrates&#039; Court, nobody with any sense trusts anyone outside his or her immediate clan or - perhaps - his or her ethno-cultural group.

The U.K. Home Office confirmed this in a study a few years ago and them promptly suppressed it. [&quot;A good day to bury bad news.&quot;]

Equally, detailed and exhaustive studies that establish very clearly that mass low-skill immigration brings no real benefit to ordinary people in British society have been suppressed by the political class. Sure, cheap domestic labour and amusing restaurants are lovely for the posh and rich 5% of our society but for MOST ordinary Brits overcrowded and ethnically-mixed schools are a parents&#039; nightmare and then we can add the extra pressure on social housing [70% of Somalis in Britain live in social housing and well over 50% of Somalis are living on public dole of one form or another] and the health service and public transport and ...

As for creating jobs, Third World immigrants certainly create SOME jobs. Since Muslims of all origins, Nigerians and Jamaicans occupy far more prison beds than their proportional entitlement, we can say that these people&#039;s immigration has created jobs for prison and police and probation officers, psychiatric social workers and a whole host of other people whose labour benefits me not at all but who are paid for by the taxpayer.

The political class hates and despises the ordinary British people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get something straight before accusing people of the dreadful crime of being that unspeakable person, a &#8216;racist&#8217;?</p>
<p>A person loves his or her children because they are his or hers. Right?</p>
<p>Of course, other people&#8217;s children may be smarter, better-looking or even better behaved but I love my children because they are mine. I prefer their company to the company of your children, however adorable YOUR children might be.</p>
<p>And I certainly don&#8217;t want YOUR children crowding into MY children&#8217;s playroom without being specifically invited. Is that clear enough?</p>
<p>Is that enough to win me an Enoch Powell award, to be presented in public by Shahid Malik, the Martyr King, or perhaps by the Aden-born Keith Vaz?</p>
<p>Do please make an effort to read Robert Putnam on the malign effect multiculturalism has had on community cohesion and trust. In one case study after another Putnam found that trust and community cohesion diminished markedly in accordance with how diverse a society is. </p>
<p>In a society as diverse as Southall Market or Brixton Magistrates&#8217; Court, nobody with any sense trusts anyone outside his or her immediate clan or &#8211; perhaps &#8211; his or her ethno-cultural group.</p>
<p>The U.K. Home Office confirmed this in a study a few years ago and them promptly suppressed it. ["A good day to bury bad news."]</p>
<p>Equally, detailed and exhaustive studies that establish very clearly that mass low-skill immigration brings no real benefit to ordinary people in British society have been suppressed by the political class. Sure, cheap domestic labour and amusing restaurants are lovely for the posh and rich 5% of our society but for MOST ordinary Brits overcrowded and ethnically-mixed schools are a parents&#8217; nightmare and then we can add the extra pressure on social housing [70% of Somalis in Britain live in social housing and well over 50% of Somalis are living on public dole of one form or another] and the health service and public transport and &#8230;</p>
<p>As for creating jobs, Third World immigrants certainly create SOME jobs. Since Muslims of all origins, Nigerians and Jamaicans occupy far more prison beds than their proportional entitlement, we can say that these people&#8217;s immigration has created jobs for prison and police and probation officers, psychiatric social workers and a whole host of other people whose labour benefits me not at all but who are paid for by the taxpayer.</p>
<p>The political class hates and despises the ordinary British people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, metta, what can I say? I always knew I had good breeding. It shows. Certainly better than the rather infra dig racist oiks displaying their wares ici, n&#039;est pas? They are so terribly non-U, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, metta, what can I say? I always knew I had good breeding. It shows. Certainly better than the rather infra dig racist oiks displaying their wares ici, n&#8217;est pas? They are so terribly non-U, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf

The table on p13 is particularly useful, but should be read with accompanying comments on the previous pages. Suffice to say, actually, changed assumptions need to be made about human birth rates in order for there not to be a substantial decline in the long term. This is only one prediction. Plenty of people work in this area and virtually none suggest exponential growth. Not least because the growth rate in human population has been declining since the 1960s.

I had thought this sort of knowledge was fairly widespread, but clearly the ultra right have been sticking their head in the sand, or - more likely - choosing to deliberately ignore inconvenient facts so they can promote their ugly politics based on fear.

&quot;Racialist&quot;, yarbles? That word is exactly like the word &quot;Moslem&quot;, and has similar loaded connotations. You know what I&#039;m saying, you prick. It is *disgusting* that you and your ilk are allowed to post here.

I have consistently sought to bring context to this ugly discussion, and your ilk have offered nothing more than &quot;home spun wisdom&quot;. And yet you have the gall to suggest the opposite. 

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf</a></p>
<p>The table on p13 is particularly useful, but should be read with accompanying comments on the previous pages. Suffice to say, actually, changed assumptions need to be made about human birth rates in order for there not to be a substantial decline in the long term. This is only one prediction. Plenty of people work in this area and virtually none suggest exponential growth. Not least because the growth rate in human population has been declining since the 1960s.</p>
<p>I had thought this sort of knowledge was fairly widespread, but clearly the ultra right have been sticking their head in the sand, or &#8211; more likely &#8211; choosing to deliberately ignore inconvenient facts so they can promote their ugly politics based on fear.</p>
<p>&#8220;Racialist&#8221;, yarbles? That word is exactly like the word &#8220;Moslem&#8221;, and has similar loaded connotations. You know what I&#8217;m saying, you prick. It is *disgusting* that you and your ilk are allowed to post here.</p>
<p>I have consistently sought to bring context to this ugly discussion, and your ilk have offered nothing more than &#8220;home spun wisdom&#8221;. And yet you have the gall to suggest the opposite. </p>
<p>Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.</p>
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