(AMUSED – I’m not including you in that group :) )

I’m going to assume you’re being facetious, and that you know there is no ‘jewish race’.

I’ll clarify anyway, in case there are people reading this who are unclear on what Jews ‘are’:

Jews are a family, a faith and a people.

We are not and have never been a ‘race’. You cannot change your race but you can of course change your religion.

Nor are we an ‘ethnicity’. There are Jews of *all* ethnicities.

I’d dispute “or indeed just the Left”. Moderate / mainstream leftists are much less likely to move to the right than far-leftists, and when they do it generally follows a move into a higher income bracket. They haven’t sincerely changed their position, they’re just rationalising their self-interest.

Far-leftists who move right, meanwhile, rarely pass through the centre, they generally flip straight over to the diametric opposite of their previous views: a lot of anarcho-capitalists are ex-Marxists. I don’t find it particularly surprising that those who have demonstrated a propensity for irrational extremism sometimes move from one kind of irrational extremism to another.

Sorry, but you don’t GET to ‘disagree’ with objective FACT.

You are entitled to your own opinions.
You are not entitled to your own facts.

YOSSI has stated facts, as have I. You may not like them – but you don’t get to ‘disagree’.

Ah.. I should have thought of that :-)

What Tabatha is saying is that as long as a Jew does not adopt another religion he remains part of the Jewish family.

THAT actually makes more sence (I still disagree with your oppinion
but they now seem more logical to me)

It occurs to me I have been writing for some unknown reason BMP instead of BNP, sorry about that.
I thought it was on perpous as if you’re making fun of the BNP by calling it the British Moronic Party or some other initials.

Allow me to enlighten you:

1 – it is spelled JUDAISM

2 – zionism = support for the right of Israel to EXIST

ISRAELI = nationality

There are Israelis of all faiths

JUDAISM = religion

Now, you can of course refuse to accept this factual definition. But that would be irrational on your part.

Nobody is ‘jewish’ by ‘nationality’.

There is no country named ‘jewish’ or ‘judaism’.

Is ‘catholic’ a nationality?

After all, Italy is a Catholic country….

Clearly the answer is NO.

Now apply the same logic to JUDAISM and Israel.

Well without wishing to debate Zionism, it might be relevant to point out that the overwhelming number of traditional Jews were opposed to the redefinition of Jewishness that Zionism created.

And some of us, still are opposed to Zionism, and do not see it as a genuine expression of Jewish national identity.

The Jewish people are a nation, but a nation that is defined by and because of its religious faith.

What Tabatha is saying is that as long as a Jew does not adopt another religion he remains part of the Jewish family.

It occurs to me I have been writing for some unknown reason BMP instead of BNP, sorry about that.