Comments on: Hate Crimes

By: Someone

Someone — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:18:59 +0000

“Ken Loach: as far as I am concerned, making a film about and with Eric Cantona provides significant mitigation for his politics. Rather like Michael Rosen and his books”

That’s like saying that Goebbels was all right because he painted nice pictures.

“The appalling internment of Japanese-Americans was not mitigated by the absence of beatings and bombings and torture”

So things wouldn’t have been worse for them had there been beatings and bombings and torture? What nonsense.

By: Think of England

Think of England — Sat, 23 May 2009 14:11:02 +0000

If it were the case that the general population of America felt that it didn’t matter were the America population to become primarily Spanish-speaking sometime in the next century, then it would certainly not be for anyone like me to say this is undesirable.

Perhaps someone should ask the British public: Do you mind if England becomes a majority Islamic country next century?

By: Doctor Heath

Doctor Heath — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:48:42 +0000

Colin
Perhaps we’re not connecting here. The Muslims I know are Sufis. Whether this has anything to do with their pacifism is not something I spend any time pondering. I’ve always assumed they’re normal for the same reasons most everyone else is normal.

I don’t know where the point lies in the mention of witch-burning.

By: colin

colin — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:27:52 +0000

Doctor Heath.

Why aren’t most of the Muslims you know intererested in “stoning to stoning to death of adulterers.’? You mean, no stonings, here in England or in the tribal lands?

My English Christian ancesters about 300 years ago had a phobia about witches and burnt them.

A long time ago

Colin

By: Doctor Heath

Doctor Heath — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:59:46 +0000

Colin
“What about ‘Sura [fill in number/poetic name]‘ in the Qur’aan that calls for inflicting bloodthirsty punishment on naughty women?” “Yes, but what about that passage in the Bible, you know, the ‘eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth’ business? Just as bad, or probably worse, don’t you think?” This sort of anile point scoring, indulged in often by people who aren’t even religious, has nothing much to do with most people’s lives. Most Christians don’t want ‘eye for an eye’ type restorative justice and the Muslims I know just want a quiet life and aren’t interested in stoning adulterers to death or breaking our laws in any way. Most religious books appear to have been written by men, not angels, probably in the Stone Age, and I think most people behave accordingly. As to how one can spot a nutter, I have no idea. Alas, they do exist and the phobia surrounding nutters of any religious persuasion is often disproportionate to their numbers.

By: colin

colin — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:48:21 +0000

Doctor Heath: I don’t fear Hindus or Buddhists – or for that matter Mormons or Jews – because I don’t fear being blown up by them in my my morinng train or bus. But this still leaves me with this fear – phobe – of Muslims, whio might wish to kill me as a kuffer wherever I happen to be. Please assure me, Doctor Heath, from your knowledge of of Islamic theology, whether I have anything to fear, unless of course I’m a Jew, which I’ve already told you I’m not. But what should they do – in case I have to advise them – to escape the wrath of Muslims?

By: Doctor Heath

Doctor Heath — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:11:04 +0000

Colin:
I was not intending the exact wording of my comment to be taken literally. Phobias are fears. Most of the time, they are irrational. Fear of falling from a great height, however, is rational for someone whose job requires them to clean skyscraper windows. Fear of any alien ideology that, objectively analysed, might appear threatening, bellicose or capable of inspiring others to attack you is also rational. I sympathise entirely with your views. Islamophobia is ultra-rational in regard to the minority of Muslims who do slaughter innocent people, call for non-Muslims to be slaughtered and describe people you like and me as the descendants of pigs. The asinine prigs who pontificate so sanctimoniously on the evil of Islamophobia omit to say that it is an evil only if one is describing an irrational bigotry that despises all Muslims, almost all of whom are normal people, content to leave everyone else alone and mind their own business. There appears to be no Buddhismophobia or Sikhismophobia rampant in the world. Why this is so is too obvious to need stating.

By: colin

colin — Fri, 22 May 2009 13:40:17 +0000

Doctor Heath: please help me. I suspect that I’m an Islamophobe. I loathe the religion of white skinned Yvonne Ridly as much as that of brown-skinned Abu Hamza, much in the same way as I loathe the nazism of white skinned Streicher as much as that of browned-slinned grand Mufti of Jerusalem, the one who chided Himmler for not being Jew-hating enough.

‘Social illnesss’ of our time? What on earth can I do? Why on earth should I feel degraded when certain Imams describe me as a descendant of monkeys [not of pigs, of course, because I'm not Jewish - but, question, should I feel a little agrieved because pigs are supposedly more intelligent than monkeys?].

Doctor Heath, should I presume to say that these descriptions from Muslim leaders of thought do not apply to me? Should I say that those leaders have no standing and that their quotations from the Koran are of no consequence whatsoever to the majority of Muslims? Come on, Doctor Heath, in th interests of diagnosing the state of of my own case of ’social illness’, should I have any reason to feel Islamophobic?

By: Doctor Heath

Doctor Heath — Fri, 22 May 2009 10:26:40 +0000

Who was it that sang “Don’t let’s be beastly to the Hun?” Noel Coward? He might have penned these lyrics after the war. I forget. Anyhow, the point of this is to draw some parallel, if possible, between today’s Islamophobia Scare and the 1930s. To display symptoms of Islamophobia surely is to suffer from the most embarrassing social illness of our time. There is, of course, no rational reason at all for islamophobics to say or think what they do. Islamophobia, as any Guardianista will testify, is about as unnecessarily alarmist as, say, Teletubbyphobia. It’s merely an irrational mental disturbance. But what about Naziphobia? Was there such an ailment extant seventy odd years ago? If so, what treatment was available to the sufferers? Could we not prescribe the same medicines and treatment today to islamophobes?

By: EscapeVelocity (nwo)

EscapeVelocity (nwo) — Fri, 22 May 2009 09:12:17 +0000

Identity politics isnt rational?