Comments on: The Language of Joseph Goebbels http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 25 May 2012 15:15:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Daniel in Brookline http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-344146 Daniel in Brookline Wed, 20 May 2009 17:32:14 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-344146 Many thanks, Dr. Pfeifer, for all that you do and all you have done. Rockall666: > Masochists! Are they getting a fair crack of the whip? "He jests at scars who never felt a wound." For the rest of the world, "never again" means that we must not allow a Holocaust to recur. This has a very different significance to the people who perpetrated it in the first place. To them it is not something horrible that happened far away, long ago. This is what their grandfathers did... and, if they're not careful, perhaps their children will try to do it again. Antisemitism has always moved in cycles... and when it rises, any excuse will do. I very much fear that we are seeing it rise again. For today, as always, Jews are the canary in the coal mine; the treatment your Jewish neighbor gets today could be your own treatment tomorrow. respectfully, Daniel in Brookline Many thanks, Dr. Pfeifer, for all that you do and all you have done.

Rockall666:
> Masochists! Are they getting a fair crack of the whip?

“He jests at scars who never felt a wound.”

For the rest of the world, “never again” means that we must not allow a Holocaust to recur. This has a very different significance to the people who perpetrated it in the first place.

To them it is not something horrible that happened far away, long ago. This is what their grandfathers did… and, if they’re not careful, perhaps their children will try to do it again.

Antisemitism has always moved in cycles… and when it rises, any excuse will do. I very much fear that we are seeing it rise again. For today, as always, Jews are the canary in the coal mine; the treatment your Jewish neighbor gets today could be your own treatment tomorrow.

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline

]]> By: Karl Pfeifer http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343904 Karl Pfeifer Wed, 20 May 2009 11:24:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343904 I am speaking quite often in Austrian schools to pupils aged 14-15. I almost always tell them, that the Nazis started in Austria first with the wholesale murder of so call "retarded" persons. The great majority of them was non-Jewish. During the seven years of Nazi-rule (1938-45) in Austria, more people were executed than from the time of Maria-Theresia until 1938. The pupils ask usually intelligent questions so I am hopeful, that the trend to the right will change. One should not generalise about an entire people, be it the British, the Jewish or the Austrian. At least we have no movement in Austrian Universities to boycott Israel Universities. The city of Vienna assisted to establish in the centre of Vienna at the Danube canal “Tel Aviv Beach” this summer. Sunday I tried with my wife to have a drink there, but every chair was occupied. Could you British have a Tel Aviv Beach at the shore of the Thames undisturbed by Islamists and antiimps? Here the antiimps (former Trots) promised big mouthed as they are to make a constant demonstration against this by putting up “Gaza concentration camp” but after the first day of demonstration, they did not continue. I am speaking quite often in Austrian schools to pupils aged 14-15. I almost always tell them, that the Nazis started in Austria first with the wholesale murder of so call “retarded” persons. The great majority of them was non-Jewish.
During the seven years of Nazi-rule (1938-45) in Austria, more people were executed than from the time of Maria-Theresia until 1938. The pupils ask usually intelligent questions so I am hopeful, that the trend to the right will change.
One should not generalise about an entire people, be it the British, the Jewish or the Austrian. At least we have no movement in Austrian Universities to boycott Israel Universities. The city of Vienna assisted to establish in the centre of Vienna at the Danube canal “Tel Aviv Beach” this summer. Sunday I tried with my wife to have a drink there, but every chair was occupied.
Could you British have a Tel Aviv Beach at the shore of the Thames undisturbed by Islamists and antiimps? Here the antiimps (former Trots) promised big mouthed as they are to make a constant demonstration against this by putting up “Gaza concentration camp” but after the first day of demonstration, they did not continue.

]]> By: sackcloth and ashes http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343618 sackcloth and ashes Tue, 19 May 2009 18:16:27 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343618 'And the purpose of dragging a busful of Viennese grammar school pupils to Auschwitz was what exactly?' To show them what compatriots like Adolf Eichmann, Paul Blobel, Rudolf Hoess, Franz Stangl and Odilo Globocnik were capable of, you retrovirus. ‘And the purpose of dragging a busful of Viennese grammar school pupils to Auschwitz was what exactly?’

To show them what compatriots like Adolf Eichmann, Paul Blobel, Rudolf Hoess, Franz Stangl and Odilo Globocnik were capable of, you retrovirus.

]]> By: Another Penny http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343575 Another Penny Tue, 19 May 2009 16:49:00 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343575 "And the purpose of dragging a busful of Viennese grammar school pupils to Auschwitz was what exactly?" To show what humanity is capable of if prejudice takes precedence. This isn't necessarily about those murdered by Hitler's regime; it's about the dangers that prejudice can create for ALL of us. Last time it was the Jews, the gypsies, the homosexuals and the mentally handicapped. Who might it be next time? These visits are designed to discourage a 'next time'. Long may they continue. “And the purpose of dragging a busful of Viennese grammar school pupils to Auschwitz was what exactly?”

To show what humanity is capable of if prejudice takes precedence.

This isn’t necessarily about those murdered by Hitler’s regime; it’s about the dangers that prejudice can create for ALL of us. Last time it was the Jews, the gypsies, the homosexuals and the mentally handicapped. Who might it be next time? These visits are designed to discourage a ‘next time’. Long may they continue.

]]> By: mettaculture http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343462 mettaculture Tue, 19 May 2009 13:54:42 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343462 Rockall666 Go away Rockall666

Go away

]]> By: sackcloth and ashes http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343406 sackcloth and ashes Tue, 19 May 2009 12:08:55 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343406 The greatest trick the Osterreichers played was to convince the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian. The greatest trick the Osterreichers played was to convince the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian.

]]> By: Rockall666 http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343391 Rockall666 Tue, 19 May 2009 11:32:47 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343391 Masochists! Are they getting a fair crack of the whip? Austria gave the world Sacher-Masoch's 'Venus in Furs,' of course! One outstanding example of Germanic masochism being the retention of the Slavic conquerors' Cyrillic scrawls in the Bundestag, preserved as tenderly as texts in Linear B, rather than being recognised as visible evidence of the humiliation of the German people and briskly erased. Masochists! Are they getting a fair crack of the whip?

Austria gave the world Sacher-Masoch’s ‘Venus in Furs,’ of course!

One outstanding example of Germanic masochism being the retention of the Slavic conquerors’ Cyrillic scrawls in the Bundestag, preserved as tenderly as texts in Linear B, rather than being recognised as visible evidence of the humiliation of the German people and briskly erased.

]]> By: Karl Pfeifer http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343385 Karl Pfeifer Tue, 19 May 2009 11:25:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343385 @Rockall666@ usually Austrian pupils are taken to the former concentration camp Mauthausen in Austria. This visit to Auschwitz was not well organised by the teachers. Usually Nazis write about "ritualized masochistic breast-beating", however this is part and parcel of Austrian history. Nazis of course object, because when you show young people what the Nazis did, they are usually not keen to follow in their steps. @Rockall666@

usually Austrian pupils are taken to the former concentration camp Mauthausen in Austria.

This visit to Auschwitz was not well organised by the teachers. Usually Nazis write about “ritualized masochistic breast-beating”, however this is part and parcel of Austrian history. Nazis of course object, because when you show young people what the Nazis did, they are usually not keen to follow in their steps.

]]> By: Rockall666 http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343359 Rockall666 Tue, 19 May 2009 10:52:31 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343359 While on the subject of Auschwitz, it is instructive to note that there is still a market for recovered dental gold. While on the subject of Auschwitz, it is instructive to note that there is still a market for recovered dental gold.

]]> By: Rockall666 http://hurryupharry.org/2009/05/19/the-language-of-joseph-goebbels/comment-page-1/#comment-343356 Rockall666 Tue, 19 May 2009 10:50:46 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16870#comment-343356 And the purpose of dragging a busful of Viennese grammar school pupils to Auschwitz was what exactly? To elicit ritualized masochistic breast-beating about something which happened their parents were born? Whose vile idea was this anyway? And the purpose of dragging a busful of Viennese grammar school pupils to Auschwitz was what exactly?

To elicit ritualized masochistic breast-beating about something which happened their parents were born?

Whose vile idea was this anyway?

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