‘They (Quilliam) have told me that they risk their lives supporting the existence of Israel – which has nothing to do with critcising Israeli policies and ex? Nazi ministers.’

Now my medic’s black humour side would retort to this by saying that I didn’t know they’d joined the IDF, but seriously Felix, don’t you think it’s very indicative of the true characteristics of the situation that Quilliam’s members say that in supporting Israel’s existance they are endangering their lives -presumably they mean that the threats come from their own community -and yet all these people like the various Roses, Chomskys et al who advocate Israel’s demise do not suffer threats from within their own community?

As I have also stated before, Avigdor Lieberman is far removed from my way of thinking, but I think that it is also lazy to brand him as a Nazi (not to mention tasteless) -I have yet to see what fascist policies he has implimented since coming to power.

I guess we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one Felix. I simply cannot give carte blanche endorsement of any particular body’s policies just because I agree with their general aims. I truly believe that Quilliam have made a wrong call on this one, just as I truly believe that it is ridiculous to blame anti-Semitism in Europe on Israel’s policies and actions.
If we really want to solve the problems of Islamist extremism and Leftist anti-Semitism we need to look behind the fig leaf of blaming Israel for these two blights on our society.

I don’t think that’s the whole story somehow. There’s accidental ignorance, which if you’ve got any sense holds you back from making pronouncements on the subject in question, and there’s deliberate ignorance. Which raises questions about why ignorance is deliberately chosen.

I shall be down near Virginia Water soon, as my son lives round there. I may take something along to throw during the sermon.

No. I’m Jewish.

While knowing will not solve any of today’s problems, it does shatter a myth – the indigenous Arabs and the invading Jews. Simply not true. Research the last five hundred years before you say that.

Israel’s ethos is not based on a bible verse but historic ties that go way back, the Bible only illustrates that, all the place names are familiar and real.

As to Stephen Sizer , he is naive, stupid and igonorant, which there is no need for, he could easily be far more well informed, there is enough information out there today. He chooses to ignore at the expense of many voices who disagree with him totally and not just on Christian or Jewish issues.

Hawaii. Of course.

“But Pearl Harbour sucks, and I love you”.

No. It’s just raining in Cardiff. Are you one of his congregants?

I have my doubts.

Iran has for decades prohibited people from bringing bibles into the country, and I’m sure Sizer has been fully aware of that policy

Are you sure?”

zkharya. It is sunny there today. Are you, perchance, inferring that Stephen’s congregants do not fall asleep in the back of his sermons and are willing imbibers of his ghastly version of replacement theology?

The Christian religious antisemites and apologists for Islam, knowing practically nothing of Islam, its aims and tactics and its opinions of them as filthy kaffirs – though repeated ad nauseam by the chiefest clerics of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran etc -may believe that they are potentially protecting themselves and the remnants of Christian communities in Muslim countries, and in those European countnries being gradually islamised. They are sadly mistaken.

And Sizer is a disgusting, amoral coward, whose full conviction of the truth of Christianity is questionable in the light of his mealy-mouthed explanation to the jihadist regime of Iran.