Comments on: ‘Don’t criticise extremism, Alex, it’s not polite’ http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:37:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Iftikhar http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-341322 Iftikhar Wed, 13 May 2009 21:08:36 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-341322 Muslim community must protect the Islamic values in terms of the parameters of halal and haram, the values of marriage, hayaa, the prohibition of relations outside of marriage and the prohibition of homosexuality. British Establishment is trying its best to anglicanise Islam. Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time, they need to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools. Iftikhar Ahmad www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk Muslim community must protect the Islamic values in terms of the parameters of halal and haram, the values of marriage, hayaa, the prohibition of relations outside of marriage and the prohibition of homosexuality. British Establishment is trying its best to anglicanise Islam.

Muslim parents would like to send their children to state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time, they need to learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit.

There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools.
Iftikhar Ahmad
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

]]> By: Clap Hammer http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336887 Clap Hammer Fri, 01 May 2009 10:26:19 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336887 Someone <i>There is nothing “second class” in requiring immigrants - immigration is a privilege, not a right - to prove that they are going to accept the ethos and mores of their new country.</i> Ah! Not easy to formulate the 'ethos and mores of their new country'. I think I know what you mean. Probably free speech, homosexuality, misogyny, freedom of religion, (within limits of course), superiority of civil law over religious law etc etc etc. Respect for the Royal family? Fox hunting? Animal slaughter??? Someone

There is nothing “second class” in requiring immigrants – immigration is a privilege, not a right – to prove that they are going to accept the ethos and mores of their new country.

Ah!

Not easy to formulate the ‘ethos and mores of their new country’. I think I know what you mean. Probably free speech, homosexuality, misogyny, freedom of religion, (within limits of course), superiority of civil law over religious law etc etc etc.

Respect for the Royal family?

Fox hunting?

Animal slaughter???

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“Going forward” is one I did think of just as I’d hit Return, having discussed the awfulness of this phrase only a few hours earlier with colleagues. Rats.

]]> By: KB Player http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336786 KB Player Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:11:15 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336786 Going forward, Someone, we seem to be on the same page. Going forward, Someone, we seem to be on the same page.

]]> By: Someone http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336764 Someone Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:59:04 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336764 But KB, is it also blue skies and clear blue water and cutting edge? But KB, is it also blue skies and clear blue water and cutting edge?

]]> By: KB Player http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336756 KB Player Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:35:32 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336756 Totally out-of-the-box pushing-the-envelope way of dealing with Ronstadt. Use your scroll against the troll. Ignore him. I always do. Totally out-of-the-box pushing-the-envelope way of dealing with Ronstadt.

Use your scroll against the troll.

Ignore him.

I always do.

]]> By: field http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336568 field Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:56:46 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336568 Ambi - I don't mind you having a different view to me. But that is my belief: if you are serious about protecting your democracy and your security you will take a serious look at Wilders' proposals. As I said I don't agree with everything Wilders says, so it is hardly earth-shattering when I illustrate how i don't agree with him. , But I believe he has a right to be heard and we have a duty to listen to him seriously, not least because he is a man whose life could be take away at any moment for having spoken his mind. Ambi –

I don’t mind you having a different view to me.

But that is my belief: if you are serious about protecting your democracy and your security you will take a serious look at Wilders’ proposals.

As I said I don’t agree with everything Wilders says, so it is hardly earth-shattering when I illustrate how i don’t agree with him. ,

But I believe he has a right to be heard and we have a duty to listen to him seriously, not least because he is a man whose life could be take away at any moment for having spoken his mind.

]]> By: Someone http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336434 Someone Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:08:25 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336434 "Or was it just a hysterical, thuggish, pompous and clunking piece of cretin-speak rhetoric designed to put you on the supposed higher ground, and make me the rock-throwing limp wristed enemy of democracy and security who seeks to persecute you (and send Britain to the dogs), by simply asking a question? Let us know." Oh, yes: people who disagree with you are thugs and cretins, right? “Or was it just a hysterical, thuggish, pompous and clunking piece of cretin-speak rhetoric designed to put you on the supposed higher ground, and make me the rock-throwing limp wristed enemy of democracy and security who seeks to persecute you (and send Britain to the dogs), by simply asking a question? Let us know.”

Oh, yes: people who disagree with you are thugs and cretins, right?

]]> By: Someone http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336432 Someone Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:05:24 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336432 Alec, on another thread Linda has pretty much come out and said Jews=Nazis. In my opinion, this means that Linda is as bad as HB and should be banned. Alec, on another thread Linda has pretty much come out and said Jews=Nazis. In my opinion, this means that Linda is as bad as HB and should be banned.

]]> By: EscapeVelocity (nwo) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/29/%e2%80%98don%e2%80%99t-criticise-extremism-alex-it%e2%80%99s-not-polite%e2%80%99/comment-page-3/#comment-336319 EscapeVelocity (nwo) Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:41:32 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=16106#comment-336319 Good stuff from Gert Wilders. Im a big fan of his. Very courageous fellow. We have to confront Islam, because its very difficult to distinguish between Islam and Islamism. You have to think of the practical aspects of implementing an effective policy. This confrontation will force Muslims to make a choice, liberalism or Islamism. Many will choose the later, better to figure that out now than later, when they vote in shariah. Good stuff from Gert Wilders. Im a big fan of his. Very courageous fellow.

We have to confront Islam, because its very difficult to distinguish between Islam and Islamism. You have to think of the practical aspects of implementing an effective policy.

This confrontation will force Muslims to make a choice, liberalism or Islamism. Many will choose the later, better to figure that out now than later, when they vote in shariah.

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