As such, it only appeals to types who are so irrational and extreme that they think it is normal to speak this way.

Thus we see the spate of over-excited commentary above from just one or two commentators.

Its all rather silly.

It seems that for some Labour members and their allies Glasgow Central is a contest between different views of Islam or multi culturalism. It’s not. It is about who will be elected to represent the people – all of the people – of Glasgow Central in Westminster.

The Labour campaign has forgotten that. They lost Pollokshields to the SNP so they seem to be focusing all their attention on winning it back, hence the focus on the votes of the Asian community. But it’s nothing to do with ‘the Asian vote’. Labour lost the whole of Pollokshields to the SNP in 2007 – they also lost Govan and Cessnock and Ibrox, Shawlands, Pollokshaws and Strathbungo and Crossmyloof and Crosshill and Battlefield and Langside. North of the river they lost out in large chunks of Kelvin too.

This is not down to ‘the Asian vote’. Asian voters voted the same way that most other people did in these areas.

By focussing intensely on trying to win back the ‘Asian’ vote all Labour are doing is marginalising themselves everywhere else in the constituency. And they are messing up in Pollokshields – for example by taking over the community council. What was the consequence of that? After many years of being very vocal and active in the community it has become so moribund that it did not even put in an objection to the nursery closures. The biggest community issue to affect Pollokshields in years and they missed it!

Meanwhile the SNP candidate is campaigning across the whole constituency. He is not focusing on Asian voters more than any other voters, he’s focusing on winning the seat, not simply winning in one small part of it. When he does win, as I have no doubt he will, it will be interesting to read all the conspiracy theories about how he did it – which probably won’t include the fact that he was the best candidate who ran the best campaign, ably assisted by the redoubtable Esther Sassaman.

Incidentally Osama is a Scottish nationalist through and through. By which I mean that he is working for the independence of his country. That’s why he is in politics.

The problem Tom is that you repeat all the tired old Labour attack

This reminds me of that guest poster who recounted her attempt to entrap Derek Draper. Hello, Mr. Point, show yourself… some people can’t see you.

Not in the opinion of Craig Murray.

Thank you, and good night.

Labour in Scotland have been staring at an open goalmouth as the embarrasing views and connections of Osama Saeed become impossible for the SNP to conceal.

Not in the opinion of Craig Murray. A Man who had the guts to put his diplomatic career on the line to reveal the truth about torture in Uzbekistan. He correctly identifies the Quilliam Foundation as a New Labour front.

On the contrary, the SNP can offer nothing but post-Unionism in which…the old restrictitive practices that caused millions to flee Scotland are stronger than ever before.

Perhaps you could define “Post-Unionism”? Millions have fled Scotland because the Scottish economy has been neglected in the Union to such an extent that a better life can be obtained pretty much anywhere elsewhere in Western Europe, Australia and North-America. I don’t know what your definition of “Post-Unionism” is but it has to better than Unionism.

If you cannot respond in kind to a post that perhaps recklessly treats you as a rational soul with debate rather than abuse and evasion on his mind…

The problem Tom is that you repeat all the tired old Labour attack lines against the SNP in your articles and then complain that you’ve been roughly treated in the comments or that the SNP is not listening to you. Even in this quote the use of the word, “cybernat”, is a classic example of New Labour nuspeak.

…I think it best if you confine yourself to the rough-house of the Scottish blogosphere.

I know my place Guv. Sorry. I’ll get me coat.

No surprises that I personally have little time for Sillars, and only a little more for MacCormack. I have met several decent and thoughtful sneeps. But they have been a small minority, and have always had problems reconciling themselves with the Anglophobic bigotry which remains the bedrock of the SNP’s appeal.

Muslim guy: ‘Scots muslims say they feel more Scottish than the er… the white indigenous community’

Mmm-hmm?” – Cobblers

This is the usual muslim line. An ex-muslim told me that the reasoning is that the whole world belongs to allah; only muslims worship allah, and therefore only muslims can rightfully say that each and every country is theirs. Perfectly logical. Google it. Also google > sheik taj al-din al-hilali we are entitled to australia more than you <

Islam is not a nationality, it is a philosophy / way of life. The analogy with moderate Nazis is not one of magnitude but one of nature. The point of the like of Wilders is that Islam is a system of expansion by warfare, subjugation of non-Muslims with pragmatic second class toleration (for similar reasons that the British Raj didn’t go around converting to Christianity at bayonet point) with a system of ethics and jurisprudence which is unacceptable to them. Therefore a moderate Muslim is as meaningful as a moderate Nazi. In fact moderate Nazism is less of a contradiction since Mein Kampf is not supposed to be the word of God. We’ve seen a self described Communist country adopt capitalism for example, but a true “moderate Islam” is a category error.

True there may, for some strange reason, have been members of the German Nazi party who were good people, and card carrying members of Islam who are likewise, and members of the BNP who are not racist, but if they’re not following the definitional instruction manual they’re a walking contradiction.

Do you really not comprehend this argument or are ignoring it?

Chryst, that is borne in virginitie!
Succour Scotland and remedie
All that is staid in perplexitie…

Re: Salmond.

The SNP under him has degenerated into a sick party of short-term unprincipled opportunism and crude Anglophobia.

That’s all the SNP ever really amounted to in my experience. Jumping into bed with the jihadi apologists and theocratic fascists should prove their most damaging example of self-delusion if the Scottish press ever evolve a backbone.

Much of its “nationalism” is confined to certain geographical regions & far
from genuinely national.
Islamists, using their familiar techniques of leverage, are in fact the almost invisible tail wagging the kilted dog.

After the last Scottish parliamentary elections it was found that many SMPs were not legitimately elected. Whole ballot boxes went missing from constituencies known to be hostile to the SNP.

Rather like Pakistani elections.

Martin