Comments on: St. George and the “Israeli built Apartheid wall” http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:37:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: EscapeVelocity (nwo) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-3/#comment-334055 EscapeVelocity (nwo) Sat, 25 Apr 2009 06:59:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-334055 Someone you know better than to make that faulty analogy. Someone you know better than to make that faulty analogy.

]]> By: field http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-3/#comment-333931 field Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:33:14 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333931 Northern Ireland should be renamed Trans Scotia. That would reflect the reality of nationality. If Scottish Protestants aren't allowed to live in Northern Ireland, presumably Irish Catholics aren't allowed to live in Central Scotland. Northern Ireland should be renamed Trans Scotia. That would reflect the reality of nationality. If Scottish Protestants aren’t allowed to live in Northern Ireland, presumably Irish Catholics aren’t allowed to live in Central Scotland.

]]> By: Rob http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-3/#comment-333911 Rob Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:46:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333911 Only 2 comments on Soc Unity - Is Andy refusing comments ? Only 2 comments on Soc Unity – Is Andy refusing comments ?

]]> By: EscapeVelocity (nwo) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333906 EscapeVelocity (nwo) Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:33:07 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333906 The last vestige of the British Empire. Northern Ireland and the Falklands. How pathetic! The last vestige of the British Empire. Northern Ireland and the Falklands.

How pathetic!

]]> By: Salty Mouser http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333864 Salty Mouser Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:19:07 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333864 <i>Ireland is Irish, and the sooner the Brits and the Unionist Protestants face that fact, the sooner everyone can move on.</i> Britain should "face that fact" the same day that Americans face the fact that California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and probably Texas are Mexican and should be returned to that country, having been seized from her by force. Ireland is Irish, and the sooner the Brits and the Unionist Protestants face that fact, the sooner everyone can move on.

Britain should “face that fact” the same day that Americans face the fact that California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and probably Texas are Mexican and should be returned to that country, having been seized from her by force.

]]> By: zkharya http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333837 zkharya Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:24:37 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333837 “who is supposed to have lived in a period, in which the concepts of nation and national identity were unknown” Balderdash. Palestinian Christians by and large conceived of themselves as Greco-Roman. Justin Martyr certainly did. Tertullian conceived of himself as Roman. George was descended from an old Roman patrician family, and was a tribune in the army: he certainly conceived of himself as Roman. Christians definitely conceived of Jews as a babarian nation apart -a nation ethnically cleansed from temple, city and land, by Rome, as a punishment for their rejection of Jesus and the prophets. A land, in the form of the imperial, colonial entity of Palestine, to which they, Christians, were now heirs. “who is supposed to have lived in a period, in which the concepts of nation and national identity were unknown”

Balderdash.

Palestinian Christians by and large conceived of themselves as Greco-Roman. Justin Martyr certainly did. Tertullian conceived of himself as Roman.

George was descended from an old Roman patrician family, and was a tribune in the army: he certainly conceived of himself as Roman.

Christians definitely conceived of Jews as a babarian nation apart -a nation ethnically cleansed from temple, city and land, by Rome, as a punishment for their rejection of Jesus and the prophets. A land, in the form of the imperial, colonial entity of Palestine, to which they, Christians, were now heirs.

]]> By: Bill Corr http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333794 Bill Corr Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:06:28 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333794 The Ulsteroids, ugly and dour as they may be, constitute a nationality and deserve their own country. An Independent Ulster would know how to deal with traitors briskly and decisively, so no blood would be spilled. This would probably require a little cartographical adjustment or perhaps a spot of discreet ethnic cleansing and/or an exchange of populations, like that between Greece and Bulgaria all those years ago. Of the two, the former would be better. Taig islands would exist within Orange territory, like that tiny bit of Belgium cut off inside Holland, but we'd all learn to live with such curiosities. The Ulsteroids, ugly and dour as they may be, constitute a nationality and deserve their own country. An Independent Ulster would know how to deal with traitors briskly and decisively, so no blood would be spilled.

This would probably require a little cartographical adjustment or perhaps a spot of discreet ethnic cleansing and/or an exchange of populations, like that between Greece and Bulgaria all those years ago.

Of the two, the former would be better. Taig islands would exist within Orange territory, like that tiny bit of Belgium cut off inside Holland, but we’d all learn to live with such curiosities.

]]> By: Someone http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333782 Someone Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:48:24 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333782 "who is supposed to have lived in a period, in which the concepts of nation and national identity were unknown" Says who? Jews at that time were a nation with a clear national identity, and had been for over 1000 years. It can be argued that the Romans had a national identity (us v. barbarians), even if they allowed some barbarians to naturalise and become citizens. “who is supposed to have lived in a period, in which the concepts of nation and national identity were unknown”

Says who? Jews at that time were a nation with a clear national identity, and had been for over 1000 years.

It can be argued that the Romans had a national identity (us v. barbarians), even if they allowed some barbarians to naturalise and become citizens.

]]> By: Entdinglichung http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333758 Entdinglichung Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:12:46 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333758 it is a futile execise to discuss the nationality of a person, whose sheer existence is not proven and who is supposed to have lived in a period, in which the concepts of nation and national identity were unknown it is a futile execise to discuss the nationality of a person, whose sheer existence is not proven and who is supposed to have lived in a period, in which the concepts of nation and national identity were unknown

]]> By: Alec http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/23/st-george-and-the-%e2%80%9cisraeli-built-apartheid-wall%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-333725 Alec Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:41:41 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=15849#comment-333725 <blockquote>No, and surely no-one in their right minds would vote for a politician who celebrates the deaths of British citizens.</blockquote> If this related to a political election in Britain, and was more recent than sixty years ago, it would be a pertinent point. Instead we see the contortions the reactionary fauxicialists get into, in that only one violent colonial insurrection is held up as iniquitous and, most of all, Israelis are informed that they should think first of foreign citizens six decades ago.

No, and surely no-one in their right minds would vote for a politician who celebrates the deaths of British citizens.

If this related to a political election in Britain, and was more recent than sixty years ago, it would be a pertinent point. Instead we see the contortions the reactionary fauxicialists get into, in that only one violent colonial insurrection is held up as iniquitous and, most of all, Israelis are informed that they should think first of foreign citizens six decades ago.

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