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		<title>By: gnetruslll</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnetruslll</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: a somewhat frustrated yet slightly amused QMUL ISoc member</title>
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		<dc:creator>a somewhat frustrated yet slightly amused QMUL ISoc member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you actually been to any of the talks given by the speakers described...  I presume not.
I don&#039;t know whether to actually be bothered anymore about you &#039;concerns&#039;... it&#039;s almost turning into collective verbatim.
It&#039;s quite sad, though, that people actually believe most of the stuff you are saying.
But again, I ask you to reserve judgement simply for the sake of credibility.
I mean, you&#039;re more than welcome to actually attend one of these lectures.... then after that, say all you want, with the credibility you yearn so much for.

... on another point.... we Muslims don&#039;t take very kindly to your definitions of moderates and so what. Why? Because Islaam taught us (1400 years ago, may I add) to take the middle path and that we Muslims are a nation which adhere to the middle course.
So don&#039;t feel too disheartened when the so-called &#039;moderates&#039; aren&#039;t up in arms about these &#039;extremists&#039; in their midst... it&#039;s almost laughable.

I may have failed in keeping this short but my sentiments needed to be addressed for the sake of establishing truth.
Again,  I warmly invite you to attend and lend an ear to these &#039;extremists&#039; you speak of or be silent and reseve judgement. I see no logic in your rant.

May the Lord of the Worlds guide us all to what is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you actually been to any of the talks given by the speakers described&#8230;  I presume not.<br />
I don&#8217;t know whether to actually be bothered anymore about you &#8216;concerns&#8217;&#8230; it&#8217;s almost turning into collective verbatim.<br />
It&#8217;s quite sad, though, that people actually believe most of the stuff you are saying.<br />
But again, I ask you to reserve judgement simply for the sake of credibility.<br />
I mean, you&#8217;re more than welcome to actually attend one of these lectures&#8230;. then after that, say all you want, with the credibility you yearn so much for.</p>
<p>&#8230; on another point&#8230;. we Muslims don&#8217;t take very kindly to your definitions of moderates and so what. Why? Because Islaam taught us (1400 years ago, may I add) to take the middle path and that we Muslims are a nation which adhere to the middle course.<br />
So don&#8217;t feel too disheartened when the so-called &#8216;moderates&#8217; aren&#8217;t up in arms about these &#8216;extremists&#8217; in their midst&#8230; it&#8217;s almost laughable.</p>
<p>I may have failed in keeping this short but my sentiments needed to be addressed for the sake of establishing truth.<br />
Again,  I warmly invite you to attend and lend an ear to these &#8216;extremists&#8217; you speak of or be silent and reseve judgement. I see no logic in your rant.</p>
<p>May the Lord of the Worlds guide us all to what is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QMUL: Jacqueline Rose&#039;s place, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QMUL: Jacqueline Rose&#8217;s place, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Epping Forest BNP Watch</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/17/what-is-going-on-in-mile-end/comment-page-1/#comment-331176</link>
		<dc:creator>Epping Forest BNP Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You give these assholes a pass for no other reason than the fact they’re non-white and non-Christian.&quot;

No I don&#039;t. I just don&#039;t see what you can expect from a Muslim who is disinterested in these student societies and campus politics and simply wants to study and have a good time. Similarly, I don&#039;t blame organised Christianity for fanatics like David Koresh.

The rest of your rant is your assumptions about me, rather than anything I&#039;ve actually said. But please feel free to bullshit away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You give these assholes a pass for no other reason than the fact they’re non-white and non-Christian.&#8221;</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t. I just don&#8217;t see what you can expect from a Muslim who is disinterested in these student societies and campus politics and simply wants to study and have a good time. Similarly, I don&#8217;t blame organised Christianity for fanatics like David Koresh.</p>
<p>The rest of your rant is your assumptions about me, rather than anything I&#8217;ve actually said. But please feel free to bullshit away.</p>
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		<title>By: John P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And going by your logic, any student with vaguely socialist leanings is to blame for anything the SWP does on campus, eg its “occupations”.&lt;/i&gt;

And to judge from your logic, it&#039;s the purvey of Methodists to rein in islamists.

One must never make demands on ordinary Muslims or, god forbid, ever assert they&#039;ve certain duties and responsabilities vis a vis their co-religionists, the way we immediately would with (white) members of other faiths.

You give these assholes a pass for no other reason than the fact they&#039;re non-white and non-Christian.

And that you are a coward.

Their pro-pos are far more grevious and inflamatory than anything Geert Wilders could come up with, but yet it was Geert you wanted to see beaten up at Heathrow.

Until you can summon the courage to take on Khalid Yasin with a similar gusto, you shall forever remain the very template for &#039;hypocrite&#039;

And a preposterous characature of &#039;progressive&#039;.

Had white supremacists been making similar wild assertions and expressing similar hatreds, you&#039;d have been pumped up with rage, indignation and pompous self-righteousness.

When the pope, for instance, denounces abortion, all dance the apeshit panic, but when Khalid expresses a similar distaste for the procedure, we place finger to chin and then, cheek to cheek with other coquette leftists, weigh the relative merits of his deep,  informed opinions with brevity and great nuance.

So many pom-pommed french poodles rolling their &#039;arfs&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And going by your logic, any student with vaguely socialist leanings is to blame for anything the SWP does on campus, eg its “occupations”.</i></p>
<p>And to judge from your logic, it&#8217;s the purvey of Methodists to rein in islamists.</p>
<p>One must never make demands on ordinary Muslims or, god forbid, ever assert they&#8217;ve certain duties and responsabilities vis a vis their co-religionists, the way we immediately would with (white) members of other faiths.</p>
<p>You give these assholes a pass for no other reason than the fact they&#8217;re non-white and non-Christian.</p>
<p>And that you are a coward.</p>
<p>Their pro-pos are far more grevious and inflamatory than anything Geert Wilders could come up with, but yet it was Geert you wanted to see beaten up at Heathrow.</p>
<p>Until you can summon the courage to take on Khalid Yasin with a similar gusto, you shall forever remain the very template for &#8216;hypocrite&#8217;</p>
<p>And a preposterous characature of &#8216;progressive&#8217;.</p>
<p>Had white supremacists been making similar wild assertions and expressing similar hatreds, you&#8217;d have been pumped up with rage, indignation and pompous self-righteousness.</p>
<p>When the pope, for instance, denounces abortion, all dance the apeshit panic, but when Khalid expresses a similar distaste for the procedure, we place finger to chin and then, cheek to cheek with other coquette leftists, weigh the relative merits of his deep,  informed opinions with brevity and great nuance.</p>
<p>So many pom-pommed french poodles rolling their &#8216;arfs&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Larkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lets not forget the extremists in governments who have opposition members arrested without justification. This is the state of play in places like Egypt and the United Kingdom.

Harrys Place - land of liberty but not a word on this. Maybe Gordon will turn up to says its all been invented by mad rightists and the Mail.&quot; – Tory.

He may be correct if he does so. Whilst on this subject shall we remind ourselves that the police interviewed Prime Minister Tony Blair under caution at 10 Downing Street? That HRH the Princess Royal has a criminal record? I for one believe that no one should be above the Law. Do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lets not forget the extremists in governments who have opposition members arrested without justification. This is the state of play in places like Egypt and the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>Harrys Place &#8211; land of liberty but not a word on this. Maybe Gordon will turn up to says its all been invented by mad rightists and the Mail.&#8221; – Tory.</p>
<p>He may be correct if he does so. Whilst on this subject shall we remind ourselves that the police interviewed Prime Minister Tony Blair under caution at 10 Downing Street? That HRH the Princess Royal has a criminal record? I for one believe that no one should be above the Law. Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that the number of Muslim students at QMUL is over a quarter of the total or anywhere near a quarter. But it&#039;s true that most are not interested in the Islamic Society. One of my fellow students at QM is a Brunei prince and he seemed more interested in eating pizza, playing golf with celebrities and pulling women (he still is, according to press reports) than Islam; religion never came into conversation with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that the number of Muslim students at QMUL is over a quarter of the total or anywhere near a quarter. But it&#8217;s true that most are not interested in the Islamic Society. One of my fellow students at QM is a Brunei prince and he seemed more interested in eating pizza, playing golf with celebrities and pulling women (he still is, according to press reports) than Islam; religion never came into conversation with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a little OT, but I&#039;ve just read a report about a British army sergeant in Afghanistan who rugby tackled a motorcbyker who he judged to be acting suspiciously.  The byke was found to be packed with explosives.

In that scenario there is a hero.  Let&#039;s call it a hero-guessing test.  For people like me, it&#039;s the sergeant: for people [sorry to use the same word in this context] Chaudhari, Galloway and Tamimi I&#039;d guess it&#039;s the motorbyker.  I wonder how many of the speakers above so beloved of these British student societies and those who invite and applaud them would pass the test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a little OT, but I&#8217;ve just read a report about a British army sergeant in Afghanistan who rugby tackled a motorcbyker who he judged to be acting suspiciously.  The byke was found to be packed with explosives.</p>
<p>In that scenario there is a hero.  Let&#8217;s call it a hero-guessing test.  For people like me, it&#8217;s the sergeant: for people [sorry to use the same word in this context] Chaudhari, Galloway and Tamimi I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s the motorbyker.  I wonder how many of the speakers above so beloved of these British student societies and those who invite and applaud them would pass the test.</p>
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		<title>By: amie</title>
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		<dc:creator>amie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue R: well, unfortunately there were efforts, unsuccessful and bizarre as they seem, to develop various race based biological weapons in SA:

http://www.geocities.com/project_coast/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue R: well, unfortunately there were efforts, unsuccessful and bizarre as they seem, to develop various race based biological weapons in SA:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/project_coast/" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/project_coast/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Flaming Fairy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flaming Fairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Which, when you note that over a quarter of students at Queen Mary’s are Muslim, means that an awful lot of moderate Muslims studying there are being badly misrepresented by their student society.&lt;/i&gt;

Or maybe being Muslim isn&#039;t the be all and end all of their identity, so they don&#039;t see the Islamic Society as &quot;their student society&quot;.  Maybe they don&#039;t really give a shit about Islam or the politics attached to it and are more interested in studying and passing their assignments than in fart-arseing about with the Islamic Society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Which, when you note that over a quarter of students at Queen Mary’s are Muslim, means that an awful lot of moderate Muslims studying there are being badly misrepresented by their student society.</i></p>
<p>Or maybe being Muslim isn&#8217;t the be all and end all of their identity, so they don&#8217;t see the Islamic Society as &#8220;their student society&#8221;.  Maybe they don&#8217;t really give a shit about Islam or the politics attached to it and are more interested in studying and passing their assignments than in fart-arseing about with the Islamic Society.</p>
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