Well, I sort of see your point. But, like many other people, what I’m in favour of is people just getting on with their lives and allowing everybody else to get on with theirs, and that needs no action from me. It’s only when people stand in the way of that that any action from me is required. So yes, I am more concerned with what I’m against, because what I’m for can look after itself.

“The way to deal with doctrinaire hard-line elements, of any variety, who have got elected to School governing bodies, is to quietly and effectively organise to get other people elected at the end of their term.

There are examples, so I’m wondering why this didn’t happen in the Woking case?”

You’re dead right, and I assume (on no evidence, except a lifetime’s observation of human behaviour) that people couldn’t be arsed. That’s the disgrace. In the Labour Party, to which I still belong despite everything, it is axiomatic that members with children at school stand for parent-governorships. However, the two arseholes in question seem to have been parachuted in by the local authority despite not being parents.

“The Left go one step further and assume that the religious motivations of Islamists are merely a manifestation of false consciousness and are properly understood as the oppressed fighting the capitalist oppressor. ”

That’s far left conspiracy theorists. But the broader mentality of people whose thinking is more about what they are against than what they are in favour of come close.

“This story has only hit the media following the relevant court proceedings, in which Ms Connor (a completely non-religious person, incidentally) was awarded over £400,000 in damages. So some good’s come out of it. The two trouble-makers, who were clearly identified as such by the court”

The way to deal with doctrinaire hard-line elements, of any variety, who have got elected to School governing bodies, is to quietly and effectively organise to get other people elected at the end of their term.

There are examples, so I’m wondering why this didn’t happen in the Woking case?

Nobody ever called the resistance movements in occupied Europe “naziphobes”.

No they just guillotined them. I watched a very harrowing film the other day based on the White Rose German anti nazi movement in Munich centering on Sophie Sholl’s involvement and eventual execution. Those nazi’s certainly knew how to quell dissent and were admired by many Muslims like Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husayni who visited Hitler to gain support in removing both Jews and the British. Another naziphile admired by the MCB was Abul Ala Maududi founder of Jamaat-e-Islami whose aim was a global caliphate based on nazi methodology. And they have the utter effrontery to wave the jews=nazi banners at hamas parades. They are quite pathetic. And pig ignorant of their very own awful history to boot.

If only!

“Yep, the demands just never end.
But some of us are starting to fight back, and gov’t is finally waking up to the threat.”

Rave on, John P., rave on. Christ-almighty !

You’re right I “misspoke”. Anti Islam is a highly respectable stance.
Anti Muslim sounds personal.

I’ve met, & liked, several people from Islamic backgrounds, but they were Muslims like many of us are C of E, very much lapsed.

The one practicing Muslim lady I know keeps away from mosques (“they’re after your money”) & openly hates Jews. She calls the UN the Jewnited Nations. She’s not a friend. But in fairness, she thinks she has a very good deal in the UK, & is no terrorist.

Martin

Yep, the demands just never end.

But some of us are starting to fight back, and gov’t is finally waking up to the threat.

It is really that bad in Canada?