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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/end-of-cuban-embargo-insight/comment-page-1/#comment-327888</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Israel Lobby’s damaging of American interests&quot;

Perhaps Lindsay should check under his bed tonight in case there are Yids hiding there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Israel Lobby’s damaging of American interests&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps Lindsay should check under his bed tonight in case there are Yids hiding there.</p>
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		<title>By: hasan prishtina</title>
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		<dc:creator>hasan prishtina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The first is to try to turn Cuba into a bad advert for socialism, by pointing to their economic difficulties and blaming them on the intrinsic unviability of socialism.&lt;/i&gt;

Cuba has been a bad advert for socialism for a very long time. Even when it turned itself into an economic dependency of the USSR, while still being able to trade with most of the world, the Cubans suffered shortages, underemployment, the inability to transport goods effectively from producer to consumer and poor planning. Just like any other socialist economy. If there were a socialist economy that had gone from strength to strength over fifty years, which would show that Cuba&#039;s problems were all down to the embargo, then you might have a case. But there isn&#039;t and you don&#039;t.

&lt;i&gt;The second is to send a powerful warning to other Latin American countries of what might befall them should they also assert their independence from the USA, and move in a non-capitalist direction.&lt;/i&gt;

The US shows no sign of placing an embargo on Chavez, though he has been in power for ten years. Indeed it is &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/americas/news/article_1390707.php/Venezuelan_president_threatens_US_with_oil_embargo&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chavez&lt;/a&gt; who threatens to embargo the US.

&lt;i&gt;But Cuba has already managed the mass influx of tourists from Europe and Canada for over fifteen years, without it leading to a politcal collapse.&lt;/i&gt;

Much like Franco&#039;s Spain or Tito&#039;s Yugoslavia. 

&lt;i&gt;Indeed, Cuba’s leadership has quite explicitly rejected the Chinese road&lt;/i&gt;

An interesting explanation of the recent purges. Of course the Chinese road involves allowing ordinary people access, albeit limited, to the internet. Wouldn&#039;t want to go too far, would we? The working class might revolt. 

The embargo should go. Let&#039;s see if the Castros are prepared to let Cubans spend their money and work for whom they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The first is to try to turn Cuba into a bad advert for socialism, by pointing to their economic difficulties and blaming them on the intrinsic unviability of socialism.</i></p>
<p>Cuba has been a bad advert for socialism for a very long time. Even when it turned itself into an economic dependency of the USSR, while still being able to trade with most of the world, the Cubans suffered shortages, underemployment, the inability to transport goods effectively from producer to consumer and poor planning. Just like any other socialist economy. If there were a socialist economy that had gone from strength to strength over fifty years, which would show that Cuba&#8217;s problems were all down to the embargo, then you might have a case. But there isn&#8217;t and you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p><i>The second is to send a powerful warning to other Latin American countries of what might befall them should they also assert their independence from the USA, and move in a non-capitalist direction.</i></p>
<p>The US shows no sign of placing an embargo on Chavez, though he has been in power for ten years. Indeed it is <a href='http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/americas/news/article_1390707.php/Venezuelan_president_threatens_US_with_oil_embargo' rel="nofollow">Chavez</a> who threatens to embargo the US.</p>
<p><i>But Cuba has already managed the mass influx of tourists from Europe and Canada for over fifteen years, without it leading to a politcal collapse.</i></p>
<p>Much like Franco&#8217;s Spain or Tito&#8217;s Yugoslavia. </p>
<p><i>Indeed, Cuba’s leadership has quite explicitly rejected the Chinese road</i></p>
<p>An interesting explanation of the recent purges. Of course the Chinese road involves allowing ordinary people access, albeit limited, to the internet. Wouldn&#8217;t want to go too far, would we? The working class might revolt. </p>
<p>The embargo should go. Let&#8217;s see if the Castros are prepared to let Cubans spend their money and work for whom they please.</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
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		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note: Comrade Zin, your arguements would be more convincing if they were not word-for-word recititaions of Chomsky speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: Comrade Zin, your arguements would be more convincing if they were not word-for-word recititaions of Chomsky speak.</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/end-of-cuban-embargo-insight/comment-page-1/#comment-327741</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you travel to Cuba the best way to make friends with ordinary Cubans would be to bring along spare parts to a 1956 Chervolet!

(So much for the glorious triumph of the Cuban Revolution)

Agree with Neil W that the Embargo should be dropped, but, like Mesquito suspect that the Castro Brothers will do something to sabotage efforts to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you travel to Cuba the best way to make friends with ordinary Cubans would be to bring along spare parts to a 1956 Chervolet!</p>
<p>(So much for the glorious triumph of the Cuban Revolution)</p>
<p>Agree with Neil W that the Embargo should be dropped, but, like Mesquito suspect that the Castro Brothers will do something to sabotage efforts to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuba is the country to which I would move if I really did want a government that persecuted those who engaged in homosexual acts.

Now that there is no longer an American Administration full of people who have never recanted their Trotskyism, President Obama should lift the entire blockade, which only attracts sympathy to this regime that does not deserve it, perhaps most notable as the model for Britain’s impregnable pseudo-comprehensive schools by means of which the real, but vigorously self-denying, ruling class perpetuates itself from generation to generation.

He has already shown his indifference towards the Israel Lobby’s damaging of American interests. So he should have no problem against the anti-American activities of vastly less numerous Cuban pretend-exiles, who are in fact economic migrants and free to go back any time they like, and who, far from being conservative, merely wish to restore the Cuba that existed before 1959, a giant drug den and brothel for the American super-rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuba is the country to which I would move if I really did want a government that persecuted those who engaged in homosexual acts.</p>
<p>Now that there is no longer an American Administration full of people who have never recanted their Trotskyism, President Obama should lift the entire blockade, which only attracts sympathy to this regime that does not deserve it, perhaps most notable as the model for Britain’s impregnable pseudo-comprehensive schools by means of which the real, but vigorously self-denying, ruling class perpetuates itself from generation to generation.</p>
<p>He has already shown his indifference towards the Israel Lobby’s damaging of American interests. So he should have no problem against the anti-American activities of vastly less numerous Cuban pretend-exiles, who are in fact economic migrants and free to go back any time they like, and who, far from being conservative, merely wish to restore the Cuba that existed before 1959, a giant drug den and brothel for the American super-rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh Lebowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arieh Lebowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, that&#039;s http://www.freetradeunionism. org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, that&#8217;s <a href="http://www.freetradeunionism" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetradeunionism</a>. org/</p>
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		<title>By: Arieh Lebowitz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/end-of-cuban-embargo-insight/comment-page-1/#comment-327705</link>
		<dc:creator>Arieh Lebowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just learned that some of the folks central to the &quot;old&quot; Social Democrats USA of the 1970s-1990s who were active as either staffpeople or laypeople {primarily the former} have formed something called &quot;The Committee for Free Trade Unionism&quot; - see its website here: http://www.freetrad eunionism. org/   {NOTE: The website address was either created or registered by its chair, Tom Donahue in April 2008, but this is the first I&#039;ve heard / seen of the organization. } 

Looking at its informational resources / articles section, as well as its informational resources / links section, and the agenda of its initial conference a few days back, it appears that a key priority if not its sole priority has to do with Cuba.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just learned that some of the folks central to the &#8220;old&#8221; Social Democrats USA of the 1970s-1990s who were active as either staffpeople or laypeople {primarily the former} have formed something called &#8220;The Committee for Free Trade Unionism&#8221; &#8211; see its website here: <a href="http://www.freetrad" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetrad</a> eunionism. org/   {NOTE: The website address was either created or registered by its chair, Tom Donahue in April 2008, but this is the first I&#8217;ve heard / seen of the organization. } </p>
<p>Looking at its informational resources / articles section, as well as its informational resources / links section, and the agenda of its initial conference a few days back, it appears that a key priority if not its sole priority has to do with Cuba.</p>
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		<title>By: modernityblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>modernityblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope the embargo is done away with. I imagine that once Castro dies the process will speed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope the embargo is done away with. I imagine that once Castro dies the process will speed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Danger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Cuba’s leadership... remain adamant that they will maintain their 50 year long policy of not negotiating on... their political system.&lt;/i&gt;

Cuba&#039;s dictators remain adamant that they will not let their citizens choose their own government. And you write this as if it is some kind of heroic, principled stand? No wonder you support the violent overthrow of Venezuelan democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Cuba’s leadership&#8230; remain adamant that they will maintain their 50 year long policy of not negotiating on&#8230; their political system.</i></p>
<p>Cuba&#8217;s dictators remain adamant that they will not let their citizens choose their own government. And you write this as if it is some kind of heroic, principled stand? No wonder you support the violent overthrow of Venezuelan democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cuba would be transformed from an impoverished island with an excellent health and education system - much admired but rarely copied - to a success story for socialism. &quot;

Blimey, have you ever been to Cuba? Nobody who has travelled there with a open mind will ever imagine it is a success story of any kind. Castro will hope the tourists can be safely herded into resorts, a strategy that has been reasonably effective so far, but it won&#039;t survive a massive influx from the USA and a lot of naifs will discover the truth that Cubans are poor beyond their imaginings and desperate, surviving largely (in the cities) on a massive, police-controlled sex industry and gangsterism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cuba would be transformed from an impoverished island with an excellent health and education system &#8211; much admired but rarely copied &#8211; to a success story for socialism. &#8221;</p>
<p>Blimey, have you ever been to Cuba? Nobody who has travelled there with a open mind will ever imagine it is a success story of any kind. Castro will hope the tourists can be safely herded into resorts, a strategy that has been reasonably effective so far, but it won&#8217;t survive a massive influx from the USA and a lot of naifs will discover the truth that Cubans are poor beyond their imaginings and desperate, surviving largely (in the cities) on a massive, police-controlled sex industry and gangsterism.</p>
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