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	<title>Comments on: Britain&#8217;s neo-Nazi thugs are getting active again</title>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/britains-neo-nazi-thugs-are-getting-active-again/comment-page-2/#comment-352578</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>white power is on the move and picking up pace. white people are not going to get walked on forever. the white community has been treat like animals and u all know what happens when an animal gets to a point where they cant take it any longer, they bite. the UK is in ruins and still the government lets it get raped and used. anyone who cant see that is obviously in the pocket of the government or has their head stuck so far up their own arse that they choose not to beleive whats happening. i see plenty of mosques around the country, where it is proven that hatred is been preached every day to muslims, yet when there is resistance to this, its turned on its head and made out to be those naughty white right wingers out to cause trouble. pride in the colour of your skin is not an offence yet, so while it remains like this i hope there are more people brave enough to come forward and make a stand. i hope there are more pubs opened in the future that celebrate the white culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>white power is on the move and picking up pace. white people are not going to get walked on forever. the white community has been treat like animals and u all know what happens when an animal gets to a point where they cant take it any longer, they bite. the UK is in ruins and still the government lets it get raped and used. anyone who cant see that is obviously in the pocket of the government or has their head stuck so far up their own arse that they choose not to beleive whats happening. i see plenty of mosques around the country, where it is proven that hatred is been preached every day to muslims, yet when there is resistance to this, its turned on its head and made out to be those naughty white right wingers out to cause trouble. pride in the colour of your skin is not an offence yet, so while it remains like this i hope there are more people brave enough to come forward and make a stand. i hope there are more pubs opened in the future that celebrate the white culture.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/britains-neo-nazi-thugs-are-getting-active-again/comment-page-2/#comment-333743</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the recent day out photos (after a google), were taken in Blantyre outside Glasgow. really a day out in Blantyre? theres sweet FA there... 

now the pubs supposed to be in &quot;the glasgow area&quot;.. 
maybe in Blantyre? cause it aint a place youd go for &quot;a day out&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the recent day out photos (after a google), were taken in Blantyre outside Glasgow. really a day out in Blantyre? theres sweet FA there&#8230; </p>
<p>now the pubs supposed to be in &#8220;the glasgow area&#8221;..<br />
maybe in Blantyre? cause it aint a place youd go for &#8220;a day out&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: hasan prishtina</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/britains-neo-nazi-thugs-are-getting-active-again/comment-page-2/#comment-327972</link>
		<dc:creator>hasan prishtina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RF, your last sentence entirely justifies the suspicions to which your allude in your first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RF, your last sentence entirely justifies the suspicions to which your allude in your first.</p>
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		<title>By: Rankin File</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/britains-neo-nazi-thugs-are-getting-active-again/comment-page-2/#comment-327917</link>
		<dc:creator>Rankin File</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;and rather suspect that you don’t feel the term “bigotry” don’t apply to the cases above&lt;/em&gt;

Like most thought police advocates Hassan, you always &#039;suspect&#039; the worst.  It tickles me to imagine you with your little pointy hat on pontificating about &#039;turds&#039; and &#039;letterboxes&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>and rather suspect that you don’t feel the term “bigotry” don’t apply to the cases above</em></p>
<p>Like most thought police advocates Hassan, you always &#8217;suspect&#8217; the worst.  It tickles me to imagine you with your little pointy hat on pontificating about &#8216;turds&#8217; and &#8216;letterboxes&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: hasan prishtina</title>
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		<dc:creator>hasan prishtina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Which explains so much…&lt;/i&gt;

Explains what, precisely? That it&#039;s illegal to exclude blacks from pubs because of the colour of their skin? To harass Jews because of their dress? To push turds through Asian letter boxes? I have a great deal of problems with the CRE and its successor body, but I am proud of its work in helping people use the law to stop direct discrimination and rather suspect that you don&#039;t feel the term &quot;bigotry&quot; don&#039;t apply to the cases above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Which explains so much…</i></p>
<p>Explains what, precisely? That it&#8217;s illegal to exclude blacks from pubs because of the colour of their skin? To harass Jews because of their dress? To push turds through Asian letter boxes? I have a great deal of problems with the CRE and its successor body, but I am proud of its work in helping people use the law to stop direct discrimination and rather suspect that you don&#8217;t feel the term &#8220;bigotry&#8221; don&#8217;t apply to the cases above.</p>
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		<title>By: Rankin File</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/04/08/britains-neo-nazi-thugs-are-getting-active-again/comment-page-2/#comment-327851</link>
		<dc:creator>Rankin File</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I used to work for the CRE&lt;/em&gt;

Which explains so much...

&lt;em&gt;the CRE&lt;/em&gt;

To employ the language of the organisation formerly known as the CRE: &#039;The CRE and its successor the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, are institutionally racist; rather than diminishing racial discrimination and promoting a more cohesive society, such institutions, true to Orwell, perpetuate bigotry for their own self-serving ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I used to work for the CRE</em></p>
<p>Which explains so much&#8230;</p>
<p><em>the CRE</em></p>
<p>To employ the language of the organisation formerly known as the CRE: &#8216;The CRE and its successor the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, are institutionally racist; rather than diminishing racial discrimination and promoting a more cohesive society, such institutions, true to Orwell, perpetuate bigotry for their own self-serving ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So do you think it is a pertinant analogy?&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I do.  It&#039;s extremely pertinent.  With due respect to the excellent work that Mr Standing undertakes here and elsewhere exposing the BNP for the thugs that they are, one has to be consistent or else it makes a mockery of any concerted effort to promote the view that racial discrimination is wrong.  It either is or it isn&#039;t.  Any argument to the contrary, for example that &#039;some&#039; &#039;ethnic and religious minorities&#039; are somehow marginalised despite no objective, empirical evidence for this, strikes me as moral equivalence.

It seems to me that the same people who argue that non-violent extremists should be co-opted and their views promulgated (roundly condemned here on HP) commit the same logical fallacy as those who justify some forms of racial discrimination.

The NBPA and their multitude of supporters and apologists base their rationale on the same entrenched racist attitudes of which the far-right are accused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So do you think it is a pertinant analogy?</em></p>
<p>Yes, I do.  It&#8217;s extremely pertinent.  With due respect to the excellent work that Mr Standing undertakes here and elsewhere exposing the BNP for the thugs that they are, one has to be consistent or else it makes a mockery of any concerted effort to promote the view that racial discrimination is wrong.  It either is or it isn&#8217;t.  Any argument to the contrary, for example that &#8217;some&#8217; &#8216;ethnic and religious minorities&#8217; are somehow marginalised despite no objective, empirical evidence for this, strikes me as moral equivalence.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the same people who argue that non-violent extremists should be co-opted and their views promulgated (roundly condemned here on HP) commit the same logical fallacy as those who justify some forms of racial discrimination.</p>
<p>The NBPA and their multitude of supporters and apologists base their rationale on the same entrenched racist attitudes of which the far-right are accused.</p>
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		<title>By: hasan prishtina</title>
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		<dc:creator>hasan prishtina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hmm. I could name quite a few pubs, even in London, that explicitly state in signs on their entrances that they will not admit people on the basis of their ethnicity or perceived ethnicity. (In at least one case, in what I presumed, correctly or otherwise, was an attempt to stay on the right side of the law, the sign has been amended to read “Travellers by appointment only”.&lt;/i&gt;

I think you would do well to draw the attention of the licensing authorities to these pubs. It&#039;s &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racism-and-discrimination.shtml&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;against the law.&lt;/a&gt; I used to work for the CRE and even then it was against the Race Relations Act 1976 to refuse to serve someone in a pub on the grounds of race. If they were a private club, that might be a different matter, but they&#039;ve stated their wish to be open to the general public.

Did the licensee tell the licensing authorities that it was to be an all-white pub, or that it was connected with the RVF? I suspect that it won&#039;t be long before the police or neighbours are seeking its closure on grounds of disturbing the peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hmm. I could name quite a few pubs, even in London, that explicitly state in signs on their entrances that they will not admit people on the basis of their ethnicity or perceived ethnicity. (In at least one case, in what I presumed, correctly or otherwise, was an attempt to stay on the right side of the law, the sign has been amended to read “Travellers by appointment only”.</i></p>
<p>I think you would do well to draw the attention of the licensing authorities to these pubs. It&#8217;s <a href='http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/rights-of-gypsies-and-travellers/racism-and-discrimination.shtml' rel="nofollow">against the law.</a> I used to work for the CRE and even then it was against the Race Relations Act 1976 to refuse to serve someone in a pub on the grounds of race. If they were a private club, that might be a different matter, but they&#8217;ve stated their wish to be open to the general public.</p>
<p>Did the licensee tell the licensing authorities that it was to be an all-white pub, or that it was connected with the RVF? I suspect that it won&#8217;t be long before the police or neighbours are seeking its closure on grounds of disturbing the peace.</p>
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		<title>By: socialrepublican</title>
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		<dc:creator>socialrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason

So do you think it is a pertinant analogy?

Sy

&#039;a SocialPublican&#039;

remove the space</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason</p>
<p>So do you think it is a pertinant analogy?</p>
<p>Sy</p>
<p>&#8216;a SocialPublican&#8217;</p>
<p>remove the space</p>
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		<title>By: Reet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;latter hate ME, while the former do not.&quot; woops vice versa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;latter hate ME, while the former do not.&#8221; woops vice versa</p>
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