Comments on: A League of War Criminals http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:19:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rastalion http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-324254 Rastalion Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:26:02 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-324254 <b>If they self identify thus, who are you to gainsay them- I live in London, not outer space and I have personal experience of this- how much personal experience do you have, in your smug inner space redoubt?</b> What about having lived in Sudan for over two years?? And just for the record, there is no smugness on my part. If they self identify thus, who are you to gainsay them- I live in London, not outer space and I have personal experience of this- how much personal experience do you have, in your smug inner space redoubt?

What about having lived in Sudan for over two years?? And just for the record, there is no smugness on my part.

]]> By: Think of England http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-324199 Think of England Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:46:59 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-324199 Nick: I've long advocated that the UN should move its headquarters to somewhere more in line with its mission, say, Madagascar, or Tanzania, or Sana. That way, the current headquarters building can be used as a large vertical red light district thus solving one of New York's chronic problems, getting sex without annoying neighbors. It's the very definition of win-win. Nick: I’ve long advocated that the UN should move its headquarters to somewhere more in line with its mission, say, Madagascar, or Tanzania, or Sana. That way, the current headquarters building can be used as a large vertical red light district thus solving one of New York’s chronic problems, getting sex without annoying neighbors. It’s the very definition of win-win.

]]> By: Nick (ex South Africa) http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-324073 Nick (ex South Africa) Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:26:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-324073 Sadly the UN and the Arab league are becoming indistinguishable. Sadly the UN and the Arab league are becoming indistinguishable.

]]> By: John P. http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-324072 John P. Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:25:52 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-324072 <i>Oh yes - a bit like saying that Hitler couldn’t have been a German nationalist, because he was an Austrian</i> Gadaffi's gaffs aside, Berbers do have a look that is distinctive from Arabs. They are the indigenous inhabitants of N. Africa and tend to be of a lighter complexion with lighter hair and eyes. They've a much more relaxed attitdue towards Islam's diktats, as well, and are avid beer-drinkers. Those hailing from the Kabylie ( spelling?) region of Algeria, for example, look distinct from Arabs and can often be quite blond. And of the some 20,000 N. African converts from Islam to Christinaity, about 90% are Berber We might not make distinctions, but the Arabs certainly do. In Algeria teaching the Berber language is illegal, and during the blood-soaked 1990s, Kabylie recieved particular attention on the part of algerian Islamists. I guess the only thing remotely, residually Berber about Gadaffi is his weakness for curvy, purvy female guards. Give the tyrant his due! Oh yes – a bit like saying that Hitler couldn’t have been a German nationalist, because he was an Austrian

Gadaffi’s gaffs aside, Berbers do have a look that is distinctive from Arabs. They are the indigenous inhabitants of N. Africa and tend to be of a lighter complexion with lighter hair and eyes. They’ve a much more relaxed attitdue towards Islam’s diktats, as well, and are avid beer-drinkers.

Those hailing from the Kabylie ( spelling?) region of Algeria, for example, look distinct from Arabs and can often be quite blond.

And of the some 20,000 N. African converts from Islam to Christinaity, about 90% are Berber

We might not make distinctions, but the Arabs certainly do. In Algeria teaching the Berber language is illegal, and during the blood-soaked 1990s, Kabylie recieved particular attention on the part of algerian Islamists.

I guess the only thing remotely, residually Berber about Gadaffi is his weakness for curvy, purvy female guards.

Give the tyrant his due!

]]> By: Venichka http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-324071 Venichka Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:24:07 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-324071 <i>.Is Gaddafi the world’s longest running dictator now Castro has retired?</i> Fairly sure that El Hadj ex-Bernard Omar Bongo Odimba (or whatever he is calling himself this year) outpaces him by some way, as did Gnassingbe Eyadema, before he died and his son took over. .Is Gaddafi the world’s longest running dictator now Castro has retired?

Fairly sure that El Hadj ex-Bernard Omar Bongo Odimba (or whatever he is calling himself this year) outpaces him by some way, as did Gnassingbe Eyadema, before he died and his son took over.

]]> By: ami http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-324028 ami Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:42:51 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-324028 Mike S: His philosophy of pan Islamism, pan Arabism encouraged the schisms. Read Eric Reeves site for the history. Reeves writes recently: "Libya’s Muamar Gadaffi, dismayingly the new President of the African Union, has for decades fomented violence on both sides of the Darfur/Chad border. He poisoned the atmosphere at Sirte early on, and gained instant notoriety for suggesting that the Darfur genocide was “a quarrel over a camel." ttp://www.sudanreeves.org/Article234.html Mike S: His philosophy of pan Islamism, pan Arabism encouraged the schisms.
Read Eric Reeves site for the history. Reeves writes recently:

“Libya’s Muamar Gadaffi, dismayingly the new President of the African Union, has for decades fomented violence on both sides of the Darfur/Chad border. He poisoned the atmosphere at Sirte early on, and gained instant notoriety for suggesting that the Darfur genocide was “a quarrel over a camel.”
ttp://www.sudanreeves.org/Article234.html

]]> By: devorgilla http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-323990 devorgilla Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:35:14 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-323990 So Gaddafi persecutes Berbers therefor he isn't one? What is the definition of 'Arab'? Is it a self-definition? If you feel you are an Arab therefore you are? Does it depend on who asks? Help appreciated. So Gaddafi persecutes Berbers therefor he isn’t one? What is the definition of ‘Arab’? Is it a self-definition? If you feel you are an Arab therefore you are? Does it depend on who asks? Help appreciated.

]]> By: Marko Attila Hoare http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-323977 Marko Attila Hoare Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:14:51 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-323977 'Except that he is not an Arab but a Berber.. The ignorance is astounding!' Oh yes - a bit like saying that Hitler couldn't have been a German nationalist, because he was an Austrian. Or that Radovan Karadzic couldn't have been a Serb nationalist, because he was Montenegrin. Or that Arabs can't be anti-Semitic, because they are themselves Semitic. On Gaddafi and the Berbers, see the following: http://liosliath.com/blog/2007/09/01/imazighen-of-libya-facing-the-gaddafi-regime-by-m-bouba/comment-page-1/ ‘Except that he is not an Arab but a Berber.. The ignorance is astounding!’

Oh yes – a bit like saying that Hitler couldn’t have been a German nationalist, because he was an Austrian. Or that Radovan Karadzic couldn’t have been a Serb nationalist, because he was Montenegrin. Or that Arabs can’t be anti-Semitic, because they are themselves Semitic.

On Gaddafi and the Berbers, see the following:

http://liosliath.com/blog/2007/09/01/imazighen-of-libya-facing-the-gaddafi-regime-by-m-bouba/comment-page-1/

]]> By: devorgilla http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-323962 devorgilla Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:50:25 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-323962 Thanks for this note ami. I'm not as up to speed on this as you, but I'm just querying that Bashir obviously has some African blood and is not a pure Arab, which suggests to me that there are other issues involved in definition of 'Arab' besides language and race (in the strictest sense). I.e. Gaddafi being a Berber. Thanks for this note ami. I’m not as up to speed on this as you, but I’m just querying that Bashir obviously has some African blood and is not a pure Arab, which suggests to me that there are other issues involved in definition of ‘Arab’ besides language and race (in the strictest sense). I.e. Gaddafi being a Berber.

]]> By: Mike S http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/30/a-league-of-war-criminals/comment-page-1/#comment-323960 Mike S Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:48:36 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14602#comment-323960 "Gaddafi is an Arab supremacist and racist who bears part of the responsibility for the Darfur genocide." How so? “Gaddafi is an Arab supremacist and racist who bears part of the responsibility for the Darfur genocide.”

How so?

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